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    Image of RockyRan RockyRan
    04:40 PM

    In reply to Changing Video Game Cases Go For The Green
    Lighter weight means less materials used, making them less expensive.

    So I guess we can expect these savings to be passed onto the consumer?

    *laugh track*
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    Image of tim rogers tim rogers
    04:31 PM

    In reply to Changing Video Game Cases Go For The Green
    damn you mcwhertor!

    there's a (great) 500-word segment about this in my next column :(

    i felt like i was being observant :(
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    Edited by tim rogers at 12/01/09 4:32 PM tim rogers was starred tim rogers was unstarred
    Image of Michael McWhertor Michael McWhertor
    04:43 PM

    @tim rogers: Sorry dude. If it makes you feel any better, ex-Kotaku helper extraordinaire Jim Reilly beat me to this, so I feel your pain.
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    Image of Comatose Turtle Comatose Turtle
    04:22 PM

    In reply to Changing Video Game Cases Go For The Green
    I had my Assassin's Creed 2 new in the box sitting in my coat pocket, and I sat down wrong and almost broke the thing in half! I thought maybe I was just beefier today, but looking inside, the case seems to be missing some pieces... I immediately had visions of terrible things happening to either my game disc or the paper cover insert. I don't like change!
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    04:18 PM

    In reply to Changing Video Game Cases Go For The Green
    Yup. DVDs now come in those as well. It's not really bad at all.
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    Image of Rocketknight Rocketknight
    04:18 PM

    In reply to Credit Card Fraudsters Love Their Video Games
    There's a special circle of hell reserved for credit card thieves and people who talk in the theater.
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    Image of Koztah Koztah
    04:15 PM

    In reply to Changing Video Game Cases Go For The Green
    Why not just use Nintendo DS style cases sized to accomodate discs?

    Even less plastic and provide the same protection as DVD cases.
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    Image of Shaban12si Shaban12si
    04:30 PM

    @Koztah: Honestly. It seems like theres so much wasted space as is. Its not like the booklet comes packed with info anymore.
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    Image of Koztah Koztah
    04:47 PM

    @Shaban12si: Some DS games come with thick booklets, so it isn't like they don't have that option with this sort of case anyway. It wouldn't crack and splinter like a regular CD jewel case, it's sturdy and protects the disc, holds almost any thickness of manual and saves plastic and space.
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    Image of andrewwyatt andrewwyatt
    04:04 PM

    In reply to Changing Video Game Cases Go For The Green
    I HATE those damn "clamshell" packages. Way to stick it to the man, Nintendo. By the way, which peripherals are they talking about? All Nintendo peripherals period, or just the official ones? Because now that I think about it, I've seen official Nintendo products (Wii Remotes, Nunchuks, Point Cards) in shiny plastic. The Zapper, though, is in a cardboard box.
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    Image of Everyone likes me, even the Danish Everyone likes me, even the Danish
    04:16 PM

    @andrewwyatt: Here in Europe (or at least, back in Holland), all Wii and DS peripherals were packaged in cardboard.

    They are pack so tight though, I cut my fingers multiple times when taking out a Wiimote or any other.

    So, environmentally it's way better, but it still cuts me at least as much as those "melted-together" packages. (maybe this has to do with the fact that Nintendo is packaging it in zig-zag edged cardboard)
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    Image of andrewwyatt andrewwyatt
    04:24 PM

    @Everyone likes me, even the Danish: I myself am in Europe but living off the USA's Air Force, so I don't shop on the economy that often. I know the zig-zaggy cardboard of which you speak, however. Yeah, that's stuff's a pain. I recommend a good pair of scissors, or perhaps a katana, if you have one lying around.
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    Image of VileMethoD VileMethoD
    04:04 PM

    In reply to Changing Video Game Cases Go For The Green
    Let's not glorify what this is. It's nothing more than a way for companies to cut the production cost on games. In today's economy it's a smart move, but it comes at the cost of the consumer being able to adequately protect a product they've purchased. The first game I purchased that had this style of case was Brutal Legend. I immediately noticed how flimsy and downright garbage this style of case was. Don't believe it? Grab a new style of case, remove the game and give the case a little twist. It moves, but it's not so bad right? Now try the same thing with these new "Eco" cases. Doesn't feel so safe does it? Furthermore this no longer offers any protection to the game itself from any sort of possible sharp object. (Not that I recommend carrying your games with a bag full of knives to begin with)

    It's time to face the facts. Microsoft, Nintendo, even Sony could honestly give two shits about the environment. This isn't exclusive to them, it goes without saying for most major corporate business's. What they are concerned about is money and ways to get it. It's their job. They'll throw out terms and words like "Recyclable" and "Reduced Carbon emission" but those are just to make the consumer feel like they are doing something to help the environment. When in reality if they were legitimately concerned about things like the environment they would be pushing for factories with absolute state of the art technology for cleaner burning machinery, they would reduce the amount of hazardous materials found in every one of their consoles and give full disclosure of them, full global console recycling programs, the list can go on and on. So why don't they do it? Simple answer is because it costs them money. Not us.

    These cases will save them a large sum of money. Even if the production cost is cut "marginally" it doesn't change the fact that it will also reduce all sorts of shipping costs.

    So forgive me if I don't buy the whole "We're pushing for a greener product" line. One quick glance at an old Kotaku Greenpeace article will prove otherwise. Although I honestly feel Nintendo may be making honest attempts at recycling and reusing... I mean hell, they've been making the same console for over 10-years now. Baziiiinnng!
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    Image of Slagathorian Slagathorian
    04:08 PM

    @VileMethoD: Great read. I too think its funny when people think that big companies are trying to be greener. They are not, they are trying to save money.
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    Image of NeVeRMoRe666 NeVeRMoRe666
    04:02 PM

    In reply to Changing Video Game Cases Go For The Green
    The thing I don't get is why does the hole have to exist where the most vital and fragile part of the entire package sits? I'm not an engineer but couldn't they have put the holes around the corners or something?
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    Edited by NeVeRMoRe666 at 12/01/09 4:03 PM NeVeRMoRe666 was starred NeVeRMoRe666 was unstarred
    Image of Everyone likes me, even the Danish Everyone likes me, even the Danish
    04:20 PM

    @NeVeRMoRe666: Actually, it's not the bottom that's most vital for a CD/DVD/Blu-Ray.
    Because you can polish the bottom off, to get most of the scratches off. (ofcourse there's a limit to this, because of the plastic protecting the data will eventually run out).

    Though, if you get a scratch on top (as in, in the non-shiney part of the disc where mostly the image is placed), you are f*cked. Because the image has a reflecting layer on the other side to reflect the laser from the dvd-player and so send the right signals.

    When discs are pressed, they are actually transparent. It's not until after the pressing of the data that the image on top will be printed (including the reflecting part).

    I hope I made sense :P
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    Image of NeVeRMoRe666 NeVeRMoRe666
    04:25 PM

    @Everyone likes me, even the Danish: Thanks!
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    Image of crabperson crabperson
    04:01 PM

    In reply to Changing Video Game Cases Go For The Green
    I don't think Sony would do this anytime soon, considering their smaller cases probably already used less plastic compared to the standard PS2/DVD sized cases.
    But what's stopping them from just slimming it down more? Hell, eventually they could make just a cardboard sleeve. Its more recyclable than plastic!

    On another note, why do they keep using the same PS2/DVD sized case? The only reason the PS2 game case needed to be that big was for that memory card storage thing. They only need to be about as big as CD cases. Maybe its because of manuals? But who reads the manual now-a-days when most games have a tutorial level?
    Nevermind, just found out on Wikipedia that they're about as tall as VHS tapes so they could fit in the same storage spaces originally used for VHS.
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    Image of The Forgetful Brain The Forgetful Brain
    03:59 PM

    In reply to Changing Video Game Cases Go For The Green
    The first game I noticed it on was Brutal Legend - popped open the case and thought, 'Hey, it bends!'

    Nice to see this addressed - I was wondering the motivation behind the change.
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    Image of Rachel Fogg Rachel Fogg
    03:48 PM

    In reply to Changing Video Game Cases Go For The Green
    I held the 360 version of BruLeg and it didn't really feel so secure....it felt cheap.

    Why not make the game cases fit around the disc like PS1 games long ago? But I guess it would too bulky to store or something.

    Hrm, I'm all for going green and all...but not at the sacrifice of quality ya'll...
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    Image of KGBeast KGBeast
    03:52 PM

    @Rachel Fogg: Unfortunately that's usually the case when said product is "going green".
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    Rachel Fogg promoted this comment KGBeast was starred KGBeast was unstarred
    Image of Rachel Fogg Rachel Fogg
    03:58 PM

    @KGBeast:

    I know...and it's sending a bad message. Or rather...restating the same bad message...

    :sigh:
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    Image of KGBeast KGBeast
    03:59 PM

    @Rachel Fogg: and I just noticed I made a pun! ahaha "that's usually the case" Ohh I love me a good pun.
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    Image of Rachel Fogg Rachel Fogg
    04:01 PM

    @KGBeast:

    LOL! Now I feel bad for not noticing it earlier.....
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    Image of TheOmnitron TheOmnitron
    04:04 PM

    @Rachel Fogg: Quality and convenience is a sacrifice that must be made in order to have breathable air. At least this is *something* done to reduce carbon footprint. If we don't get the under 350 carbon bits per million were all dead.

    Seriously. ([www.350.org])
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    Image of dagamer34 dagamer34
    04:09 PM

    @Rachel Fogg: Because those cases involved an extra layer of plastic if I remember correctly.
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    Image of Slagathorian Slagathorian
    04:14 PM

    @TheOmnitron: I read that in order to drop the carbon emissions enough to drop the average temperature down by a single degree celcius over 150 years, then we'd need to shut down every carbon dioxyde producing machine/person earth for 20 years.

    So not only would you have to kill everybody, you'd also have to turn off every car, stop making plastic, stop every factory etc.
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    Image of Rachel Fogg Rachel Fogg
    04:15 PM

    @TheOmnitron:

    I don't doubt that we're killing the environment, I'm all for Green.

    The problem is if they want to get more people behind the Green movement, they're going to have to instill some faith in people that they won't be buying shitty products. And work through the companies pasting 'Green' on them to sell to unsuspecting people.

    If the Green movement spent less time making fancy marketing ads/websites or whatever with cute little green leaves and stuff and start cycling that money into better research in sturdier/affordable/longer lasting products...then everything would be cool.

    It's happening, but slowly...they have to erase the stigma of Green=Shoddy Overpriced Products...

    That's just my thoughts on the matter.
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    Image of Rachel Fogg Rachel Fogg
    04:18 PM

    @dagamer34:

    Ahh....that makes sense...erm, I guess this right here is the future. No wait...

    Digital Distribution is the future...:sigh:
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    Image of Rachel Fogg Rachel Fogg
    04:19 PM

    @Slagathorian:

    ........

    I had to go back and re-read that site again. That's....a little disturbing.
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    Image of Slagathorian Slagathorian
    04:27 PM

    @Rachel Fogg: I know. It makes you wonder what the point is of dropping down emissions by 5%.
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    Image of Rachel Fogg Rachel Fogg
    04:30 PM

    @Slagathorian:

    I suppose any drop is better then nothing, but I know some Green people are COMPLETELY fine with...err...'thinning the human flock' for the sake of the environment. Note I said SOME...not all..

    That said, I'm sure there's better ways, we're mankind...we made the Thighmaster. I'm sure we can think of something.
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    Image of Slagathorian Slagathorian
    04:35 PM

    @Rachel Fogg: There could be an even simpler solution. There really is no such thing as "global warming"

    Apparently earth is in a constant temperature flux. As is Mars and all other planets.

    Plus the Taiga forest has enough spruce tree's to filter the CO2 levels of the entire planet.

    And that's just one forest.
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    Image of Rachel Fogg Rachel Fogg
    04:44 PM

    @Slagathorian:

    LOL! Well I'm not too sure about the no 'Global Warming' thing and I certainly don't want to get into that here...that's just asking for trouble.

    I agree on both sides, they're both reasonable to a fault but I generally try to do my own research.

    But I heard about the Taiga forest, I suppose we should start planting a some more of those Spruces eh?

    Still, I don't want my 'Green' packaging to suck anymore...and these packages are rather horrible. I think MS just pulled a cheapy instead.
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    Image of -MasterDex- -MasterDex-
    03:47 PM

    In reply to Changing Video Game Cases Go For The Green
    Good on them. As long as it doesn't mean the cases suffer as a result, we're golden since I don't trade in my games.
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    Image of Bouchart Bouchart
    03:44 PM

    In reply to Credit Card Fraudsters Love Their Video Games
    Thank you Kotaku. You've given me a few ideas to mull over in that noggin of mine.
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    Image of TheGreatRaja TheGreatRaja
    03:43 PM

    In reply to Changing Video Game Cases Go For The Green
    these feel cheap. makes my games feel cheap - and they're not.
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