@kingbob337: Yeah I can't believe this costs more. I'm still waiting for them to reduce the price of the original controllers. $60+tax per person when I want someone to play with me is just too much.
@kingbob337: Who thinks this? Who are these people? The 360 Arcade was $199 a long time ago. I play the hell outta my Wii, but it's not cheap if you want a 4 player setup. I've never heard anyone say it is. But the truth is, NO system is cheap if you want a 4 player setup or other bells and whistles. With the Wii, it's the controllers, with the 360 its the wireless or larger hard drive. Until recently, with the PS3, it was the console itself. The PS3/360 games cost more new, but cost less when they get older. Every system has its advantages. In any event gaming is expensive no matter which console you own. It's particularly expensive if you own all 3 like I do.
@subnet6: Except if I want to play a 360 game the way it was intended the original wired controller works just as well as the fancy wireless special edition. Meanwhile the nunchuk is extremely important to the immersion of motion controls (but you must buy this extra), and the Wii motion plus is basically an admission by Nintendo that the original controller was lacking.
@subnet6: Yea I own all three as well, but what 4 player game am I going to play on the PS3/360?
The Wii has tons of 4 player party games... which is almost mandatory to have 4 sets of weapons... Brawl, Mario Kart Wii, Mario Party, Raving Rabbids, and Smarty Pants are just a few of my old games that had 4 player support that was regularly played with.
I purchased each console for their own purpose:
Wii = Party Games, Innovative crap
360 = Games that look like ass on the PS3, Early DLC, Exclusives
PS3 = Online Games so I can ignore GOLD membership, Exclusives
@Benny: You make a good point, the Wii has the most 4 player and party games, but none of those you mention even require a single nunchuck, well I suppose a few of the mini games on Rabbids do, IIRC. BTW, Smarty pants is awesome fun with a group. The tug of war minigame is HILARIOUS. Also, you're reasons for owning all 3 are very similar to mine.
Wii = Off the wall quirky stuff you just cant find on the HD consoles plus all the GOOD motion games/exercise/first party stuff.
360 = All the multiplatform HD games that are better on 360 than PS3 (most of them) + all my friends are online.
PS3 = All the great PS3 exclusives plus Blu-Ray player.
@subnet6: "But the truth is, NO system is cheap if you want a 4 player setup or other bells and whistles. With the Wii, it's the controllers, with the 360 its the wireless or larger hard drive."
Yeah man, your words, not mine. An acceptable answer would have been "with the 360 it's the subscription fees", because those are mandatory for multiplayer experience.
The original point of contention in the thread is that the Wii isn't the cheapest console. Your rebuttal was, "oh yeah? stick this in your tailpipe and smoke it"(basically), but the original point of contention still stands, the amount of peripherals you have to buy for a Wii is expensive. For me to play a 360 or PS3 game all I need is the original controller. They aren't going to make games that require a PS3 Fit Board or a 360 Plus, and both systems are intended for multiplayer gaming online. The Wii is intended for in home multiplayer and is marketed towards consumers who have no use for Wii friend codes and online play. #wiiremote
@GoonerVance: "The original point of contention in the thread is that the Wii isn't the cheapest console."
No. It wasn't. Maybe you should read the thread a THIRD time.
Here, let me help save you the time from scrolling all the way up to the top.
The original contention was that "people still think the Wii is the cheapest console"
And I argued that people DON'T think the Wii is the cheapest console. Guess you missed that part. Otherwise, maybe you'd notice you agree with me.
"Your rebuttal was, "oh yeah? stick this in your tailpipe and smoke it"(basically)"
I made no rebuttal. In fact, my argument (if indeed there WAS an arguement from me) was that the Wii ISN"T the cheapest.
But I went on to say, that all 3 consoles can get expensive if you buy accessories and extra controllers and that's absolutely true.
And, f you want to play specific games, you may need something different or special, like a hard drive on the 360 (expensive add-on), or an eye toy (less expensive add-on) on the PS3, or a balance board (expensive add-on) on the Wii. But it doesn't matter because you've completely missed the point (in some bizarre need to restate that the Wii is expensive) which is this, " NO system is cheap if you want a 4 player setup or other bells and whistles." MY words. Read em again Einstein. A wireless adapter on the 360 qualifies as a bell/whistle does it not? How about a bigger harddrive? I never said you MUST buy it. You don't have to buy 4 controllers for any console, but if you do, it's gonna cost you......alot. Simple as that. If you trick out any system, you're gonna end up spending a lot more than the console alone costs. I don't think I can make it much simpler than that. Hope you're no longer confused.
@Koda89: I don't want, or need Motionplus. I only want more wiimote+nunchuks. This is all around a more expensive option for me either way. I'd still like to see them drop the price on just the wiimote+nunchuk. Even if you argue the motionplus is a "must have" then yes, it's MORE expensive than the old "must have" of only a wiimote+nunchuk. The price went UP.
Really, at Toysrus this week I can get a wiimote+nunuk and a free motion plus in the 3 for 2 deal. It's $20 not $25. So I could get all three for $60 plus tax but that is still too much just for an extra "controller" for multiplayer gaming. /shrug
Maybe when/if they make games that require motionplus that I actually want then this will be a great deal but that has yet to happen. Wii sports resort and golf games are not a must buy for me. #wiiremote
@Koda89: Wow that doesn't surprise me I guess. It's $20 everywhere else though. Btw I didn't mean to come off ungrateful about your first reply I know you were trying to help. #wiiremote
This just in: Scientists across the nation have studied and found out that the black remote is only, in average, only half an inch inch longer than the white remote.
To make the white remote feel better about itself, recent studies have also shown that size does not matter and that it's about "how one uses it".
@Dr Durdon: I didn't need an add on to provide one-to-one motion... you're probably not doing it right. I know other people say it, but you can't just waggle it around, you might poke someone's eye out.
Oh baby - I'd let Cammie stuff my stocking with a black Wiimote (if you know what I mean).. or something... oh, hang on - that came out wrong. I mean, you can get a good look at a butcher's ass... No, wait - it's got to be your bull... Dangit, I got nothin'.
@Blore07: I disagree- black (and a good, deep black) is the way to go for technology. I like my Elite because it's black (among other reasons, so people don't think I bought it just for the color), although I wish they'd kept the blue LEDs they'd had in the concept/prototype.
I dunno, I guess black just looks sleeker, more powerful.
haha I kid, but I disagree, when the Wii first released the world was deep in the clutches of the Apple "everything has to be white and clean" madness, I read a big ole article on the Wii's design in a ONM issue before release, of course thats just what the journalists for ONM were saying, not an official statement.
@Fluke_Hawkins: Touche, but one thing I dislike about the 360, it's just not glossy, I know fingerprints are annoying, but glossy is sexy, who really coats their ps3 in fingerprints anyway?
altho, my pspgo... I stop playing and fingerprint clean all the time O.o i'm a freak.
@Blore07: The Apple argument works too, and it was probably a major factor. But I still think all the commercials with the white Wii, white controllers, white furniture and white people was meant to give off a "nice, happy family" vibe. Whereas black would've looked more slick and smooth; aimed at the real hardcore crowd. More like a traditional console, rather than something 'fresh'.
@Showmeyomoves!: I'd associate brighter colours (like the blue green and red shown before launch) for happy family console.
However, your right, when you think of it a black wii would look more like the traditional core gamers device.
@Blore07: Shiney is nice, don't get me wrong. But I actually prefer the 360's matte-black more. I do have a tendency to care about fingerprints on something that noticeable.
@Kovitlac: Im sure everyone does, but how do the fingerprints get there, i took mine out of the box, put it on my tv stand, thats the only time i've ever touched it.
you dont even need to touch them to turn them on anymore.
@Showmeyomoves!: Ahhh Apple. Actually that's a perfect argument for black. They charged $100 more for the color alone, of which I would actually tell people exactly that (it was $150 more, with a bigger hard drive that was a $50 upgrade in the white one), and most people still bought it.
In fact, at the time, on Apple's sales training site it poked fun at the black MacBook. In a hypothetical situation asking you which machine fits best for what customer, one of the "customers" says, "I want the black one cause it's cool". (where as the others would say something to the effect of, "I want a notebook that fits my digital lifestyle" blah blah...)
@Blore07: That's very true. However, for my console at home, I do have to hold it in place more or less when I pull the plug 'n' plays out, or the wired guitar controllers (or regular controllers, for that matter). Just to make sure the system doesn't topple off a high shelf.
For my system at college, it gets moved around from time to time, and stuff gets set on it pretty regularly. I just think the matte-black makes it more hardy for people who live that sort of lifestyle. #wiiremote
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But my brain says "YOUR WII HASEN'T BEEN TURNED ON IN TWO MONTHS!" #nykowand
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Who cares if they're bad for your teeth? I want to know what they taste like! #nykowand
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An Nyko Wand a day keeps the psychiatrist away. #nykowand
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And WiiMotion+ is $20, yes?
Was the paint job $10?
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My mistake, somewhere along the line I got the idea in my head tha tthe Wii Remote combo was $70.
Well, with it being $50 for the Wii Remote combo, this is certainly a better deal!
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- Wii-mote = $40
- Motion+ = $25
- Nunchuk = $20
Total = $85
This black set up is only $70 all told. It is cheaper by $15.
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The Wii has tons of 4 player party games... which is almost mandatory to have 4 sets of weapons... Brawl, Mario Kart Wii, Mario Party, Raving Rabbids, and Smarty Pants are just a few of my old games that had 4 player support that was regularly played with.
I purchased each console for their own purpose:
Wii = Party Games, Innovative crap
360 = Games that look like ass on the PS3, Early DLC, Exclusives
PS3 = Online Games so I can ignore GOLD membership, Exclusives
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Wii = Off the wall quirky stuff you just cant find on the HD consoles plus all the GOOD motion games/exercise/first party stuff.
360 = All the multiplatform HD games that are better on 360 than PS3 (most of them) + all my friends are online.
PS3 = All the great PS3 exclusives plus Blu-Ray player.
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Yeah man, your words, not mine. An acceptable answer would have been "with the 360 it's the subscription fees", because those are mandatory for multiplayer experience.
The original point of contention in the thread is that the Wii isn't the cheapest console. Your rebuttal was, "oh yeah? stick this in your tailpipe and smoke it"(basically), but the original point of contention still stands, the amount of peripherals you have to buy for a Wii is expensive. For me to play a 360 or PS3 game all I need is the original controller. They aren't going to make games that require a PS3 Fit Board or a 360 Plus, and both systems are intended for multiplayer gaming online. The Wii is intended for in home multiplayer and is marketed towards consumers who have no use for Wii friend codes and online play. #wiiremote
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No. It wasn't. Maybe you should read the thread a THIRD time.
Here, let me help save you the time from scrolling all the way up to the top.
The original contention was that "people still think the Wii is the cheapest console"
And I argued that people DON'T think the Wii is the cheapest console. Guess you missed that part. Otherwise, maybe you'd notice you agree with me.
"Your rebuttal was, "oh yeah? stick this in your tailpipe and smoke it"(basically)"
I made no rebuttal. In fact, my argument (if indeed there WAS an arguement from me) was that the Wii ISN"T the cheapest.
But I went on to say, that all 3 consoles can get expensive if you buy accessories and extra controllers and that's absolutely true.
And, f you want to play specific games, you may need something different or special, like a hard drive on the 360 (expensive add-on), or an eye toy (less expensive add-on) on the PS3, or a balance board (expensive add-on) on the Wii. But it doesn't matter because you've completely missed the point (in some bizarre need to restate that the Wii is expensive) which is this, " NO system is cheap if you want a 4 player setup or other bells and whistles." MY words. Read em again Einstein. A wireless adapter on the 360 qualifies as a bell/whistle does it not? How about a bigger harddrive? I never said you MUST buy it. You don't have to buy 4 controllers for any console, but if you do, it's gonna cost you......alot. Simple as that. If you trick out any system, you're gonna end up spending a lot more than the console alone costs. I don't think I can make it much simpler than that. Hope you're no longer confused.
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Really, at Toysrus this week I can get a wiimote+nunuk and a free motion plus in the 3 for 2 deal. It's $20 not $25. So I could get all three for $60 plus tax but that is still too much just for an extra "controller" for multiplayer gaming. /shrug
Maybe when/if they make games that require motionplus that I actually want then this will be a great deal but that has yet to happen. Wii sports resort and golf games are not a must buy for me. #wiiremote
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To make the white remote feel better about itself, recent studies have also shown that size does not matter and that it's about "how one uses it".
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SHUT UP RICHARD!
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Inb4 "Once you go black you never go back".
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I dunno...
I think the white one looks better imo, stands out more.
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I dunno, I guess black just looks sleeker, more powerful.
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Dammit...
Anyway, I think they went with white cause it's a more 'open' and 'friendly' color.
Did that sound racist?
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haha I kid, but I disagree, when the Wii first released the world was deep in the clutches of the Apple "everything has to be white and clean" madness, I read a big ole article on the Wii's design in a ONM issue before release, of course thats just what the journalists for ONM were saying, not an official statement.
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altho, my pspgo... I stop playing and fingerprint clean all the time O.o i'm a freak.
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However, your right, when you think of it a black wii would look more like the traditional core gamers device.
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you dont even need to touch them to turn them on anymore.
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In fact, at the time, on Apple's sales training site it poked fun at the black MacBook. In a hypothetical situation asking you which machine fits best for what customer, one of the "customers" says, "I want the black one cause it's cool". (where as the others would say something to the effect of, "I want a notebook that fits my digital lifestyle" blah blah...)
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For my system at college, it gets moved around from time to time, and stuff gets set on it pretty regularly. I just think the matte-black makes it more hardy for people who live that sort of lifestyle. #wiiremote
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good huh?
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