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but yea, prices def cheaper on the interwebz #xbox360
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My girlfriends 360 red ringed about a month ago and this seems like the perfect time to get a replacement system to pop her HDD on. But I really don't want to wait for some rebate... :\ #xbox360
11/04/09
Second, I was reading the description and the gift card is an online one so no, you won't be walking out with the plastic card in hand. #xbox360
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Hmmm, well at least online is better than some mail in thing! #xbox360
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[www.walmart.com] #xbox360
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I want that 5 buck turkey! #xbox360
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Flamebait? Nah. Still bitter over how much money my Arcade has cost me? Yep. Honestly, $150 for 120GB? Don't they realize that larger hard drives sell for one third that price? #xbox360
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I think the problem is they *do* realize it. Hence why you're not allowed to use them. ;) #xbox360
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Furthermore there's a 60gb one that's also much cheaper, don't blame MS because you decided to buy the most expensive hard drive available. #xbox360
11/04/09
Don't blame MS? How could I not? The HDD inside their enclosure is the exact same as any other, with the exception of a needless firmware lock. It's a blatant money-grab, and their MSRP is batshit stupid. #xbox360
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Stupid. Buy the 20GB harddrive for 30 bucks used on Amazon or 40 New on Amazon. /facepalm #xbox360
11/04/09
1) That HDD is slower, not just smaller, meaning you'll have pop up and frame rate issues in some games installed to it
2) wtf are you going to do with 13gb's worth of space these days #xbox360
11/04/09
Being proprietary isn't necessarily needless as it acts as a security measure.
The price? Yeah it's too high, but people are paying for it. If they weren't the price would be lower. It sucks, but from a business standpoint why WOULDN'T Microsoft keep the price that high when it clearly hasn't been a deterrent to purchases? #xbox360
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I cannot believe the rampant fanboyism here, are there actually still people who defend Microsoft over the hard-drive issue?
WOW! #xbox360
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Defending the business sense of keeping a peripheral that someone can only buy from you at a high price does not equate to defending the companies morals or play-niceities over doing so.
If you're the only guy on earth who sells canned peaches, and everyone wants canned peaches, you're a dick for charging 120 bucks a can. But you're obviously not stupid. #xbox360
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Its fascinating really. #xbox360
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I think you missed the point of what I was saying.
Nobody is saying 'Oh, Microsoft are so smart for selling those HDD's at that price! Man, I love Microsoft for selling them like that'
people are saying
'Wtf thats a retarded price, why the fuck am I paying that much. I mean, obviously Microsoft is charging outrageous amounts because you have no choice in the matter, but really, what the fuck'.
Do not equate an understanding of what they are doing, with a respect for them doing so. #xbox360
11/04/09
I suppose I'm just annoyed that many seem ready-willing, even-to bend over and take whatever MS gives them. Are we already resigned to the seeming inevitability that their next console will be similarly abusive? Aren't we just playing the role of the battered spouse who goes back for more?
You're right, though. Not stupid. #xbox360
11/04/09
Where were you when we had to pay $30 bucks for mere megabytes of storage on memory cards last gen?
MS is behind the curve, but you clearly care enough to still buy the overpriced HDDs. Put your money where your mouth is next time. #xbox360
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For me, I will play games online and watch Netflix movies. 13 gbs should suffice just fine. If you want more, then you will pay an arm and a leg. #xbox360
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The alternative is not buying it, which leaves you with...
a gimped system.
The alternative is a Wii, or a PS3.
I think if anything, it should show fanboys or otherwise, that theres something special about the Xbox 360 and Live and blah blah blah if people are willing to keep forking over cash to keep using them. And don't nobody go givin' me 'Thaz cuz 360 owners are stoopid' when I can easily pull stories of PS3 purchasers paying over 1k for a system launch system, as well as stabbing and shooting each other to get one.
Its likely got to do with the whole investment factor. When you've invested your time and money into a system, you want to keep doing so as to not make your original purchase feel like a waste to you or anyone else. Hence why you got consoletards on all three sides of the fence when the PS3 wasn't putting out software, the Wii first launched and when the 360 was held together by glue and pixie dust. #xbox360
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As for my money, well.. I actually won the 360 thanks to Pepsi. Any money I spent towards it went into making it a usable console (HDD, optical audio out connector, etc.), with copious amounts of bargain-hunting involved. In all, I felt rather underwhelmed with what was presented to me. So yes, I suppose we'll see what happens for their next console iteration. While I do own all 3 consoles this generation, the same may not be true the next time around. #xbox360
11/04/09
Tell you what. You go install a game, so that it runs smoother, keeps your system quiet, and will extend console life.
Theres 7gb pac-manned up. Leaving you with 6 to work with.
Okay, so you don't install any games.
Lets say... you want to buy some Arcade games. You DO know that theres arcade games reaching 2gb now, right? My Red Alert Commanders Challenge tells me so.
Even without DLC, unless you're the equivalent of a Wii-gamer and plan on playing video games for a few hours on the weekend, only, and maybe 5-10 titles a year, you'll find that 13 gb is impossible to work with, even without paying a cent for DLC and just downloading the free stuff. #xbox360
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Failed attempt at justifying a base model next gen console...keeps me entertained...thanks!
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Who are you replying to? I don't think anyone here was justifying it, beyond buying this Wal-Mart deal+120gb HDD essentially gives you a cheaper system than the Elite right now, with the same stuff. #xbox360
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But that, well, would be too simple. #xbox360
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I own a Wii, and don't play it regularly because, well, the online portion sucks. I have a PS3 at another place, and only use it to play online games. I ripped through Arkham Asylum a few months back, then sold it. I just don't play many single player games these days. They can get frustrating and I find I haven't finished a large amount of games I had in my possession even back to the N64.
So, it will mainly be used as an online gaming system, mainly for the better interface of MW2 and the irritatingly exclusive Left 4 Dead 1 & 2. I'll also pick up Gears 2.
I don't see how downloading a game to my HDD will improve my online game experience. If it does, I see that as a disadvantage to the gamers that DON'T download it to the HDD, which kinda sucks. #xbox360
11/04/09
It's market demand. I said, flat out, that I felt the price was too high. But that people were buying it so Microsoft, as a company and adhering to a business model, has no incentive to lower the price. Why would they if people are paying for it? Seriously..why?
That was my point. I feel it's too high, but people pay it, so MS has no incentive to lower it. However you seemed fit to somehow turn that into a "fanboy" argument somehow.
WOW! #xbox360
11/04/09
Installing to your HDD will load your levels faster in both single and multiplayer. It eliminates disc read errors from happening at all, since all the data is on your hard drive.
It also extends your system life and cuts down on the heat (which causes the RROD in the first place) a LOT. Theres also no risk of your discs getting scratched in the system, since, well, they aren't spinning.
L4D is one of the biggest examples of games that is largely improved to an install. Same with the Orange Box. Load times are cut down by 10's of seconds.
Sure, it sucks for the people not installing their games, but hey, its left as optional. The 20gb hard drive is outdated now in not only speed, but space.
You coming out here saying I'm buying overpriced DLC to fill it up seems a little over defensive, don't you think?
The L4D Survival Pack, Crash Course and the Call of Duty maps ALONE will fill up a third of your hard drive. And when you're playing dlc, guess where its loading from? Your slow ass hard drive. If you're deleting this stuff routinely, I guess thats cool, since itll keep space... but I can't bring myself to delete anything besides installed games, lest I take the chance of not being able to download it again if I ever want to play that game again in the future and have an incomplete experience. #xbox360
11/04/09
This is the dumbest reasoning I have ever heard. I'm sure SOME people would buy it, if it were priced at 1000$. The PSPgo is ridiculously priced, but since the machine IS selling, why should Sony lower the price? Hell Sony sold millions of PS3's at 600$ a pop, why in the world would they ever lower it?
Listen up and I'll tell you why they should lower it! BECAUSE A PRICE REDUCTION WILL LEAD TO MORE SALES!
Not only that, but people will be able to buy more XBL games and DLC because they have a bigger hardrive. etc.
""Why would they if people are paying for it? Seriously..why?""
This has got to be the dumbest thing, any one has ever said ever. #xbox360
11/04/09
The free L4D maps I will download, but that shouldn't take much space. And, who knows if I will even get the original one, though from what I hear the second one wont be nearly as scary.
Also, what benefit does a map loading fast do when you still have to wait for ALL the players to load the map and then the count down begins?
Buying a console later in its lifespan with a 3 year warranty, I am not too worried about prolonging its life that much. Perhaps I will load whatever game I play the most at that time onto the system to increase that benefit, but who knows. #xbox360
11/05/09
PS3's price dropped helped because it was too expensive and losing market share. They needed to gain some ground on the 360 this generation. Especially in North America. So a price drop helped in that regard.
Microsoft has done their own price drops on their consoles so they clearly know how that side of the business works. It's a miracle! They figured it out without you!
However for the HD, they've clearly been making plenty of money off of it or they would reduce it. They've already established they know how that market principle works so why would they keep the HDD price still so high? Because people are paying for it. And most likely enough to outweigh any gains that would be had by pricing it cheaper. There is already a big enough install base to where the majority of users aren't actively seeking to expand their storage.
Most people are fine with the 20 or 60 gig storage that they get by default now. There's no incentive to upgrade. For Rockband players, they'll need to upgrade (I definitely had to go the 120 gig route..got it cheap on Amazon though). But other than that most people don't need to be bothered. So they wouldn't see some large spike in 120 gig sales because I'm sure they've determined that most people don't want/care about it. And most people are the average gamer..not the hardcore nerds like us. We do not constitute the majority.
And the whole "buy more DLC/XBLA games" is such a speculative non-statement. Says who? Where's your research? Most people have PLENTY of room for those purchases and those that do purchase more than their quota are more than likely easily shelling out for the 120 HDD.
I get it that you don't get it. But quit acting like you know how things work because you clearly don't. Show me your company that generates earnings like MS, and maybe I'll take you seriously. But for now you're just another backseat "analyst" that thinks they know how things work, but you really don't.
This is the last I'll post on the matter, but you really need to re-evaluate your grip on reality. #xbox360
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What else do you need? #xbox360
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I think my 32-inch does the trick, even at the Walmart sale price point. You're right, I can't notice a difference between i and p in my small apartment.
Thanks for the heads up on Samsung/Sharp. I always hear people loving their Sharp, but I have a feeling they don't play games or watch the NFL on them. #xbox360
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Still gonna be tough getting them unless you're willing to camp the store. I'd love to know how much stock Wal-Marts tend to carry. I'll still swing by and hope to grab something from the sale, but I don't believe the 360's will be around for me. #xbox360
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Making things appear 'limited' increases hype which increases sales. #xbox360
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Great price on the Xbox360, time for people to start gathering up those christmas gifts. #xbox360
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On the boxes now, they only feature the Elite and the Arcade, no pro. #xbox360
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