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CE2? Cry Engine? I didn't know it was standalone. Unless you mean it's free to mod Crysis? #unrealdevelopmentkit
11/05/09
Have a look through www.cyrmod.com and you should get a good idea of what's being done. #unrealdevelopmentkit
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Are those all mods though? You'd still need to own Crysis I mean. #unrealdevelopmentkit
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@Shin-san: Yeah, I'd imagine it's a common requirement since it's a popular engine. It doesn't make it the better engine though. #unrealdevelopmentkit
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One of the great thing that has really helped encourage modders to use CE2 is the flowchart scripting system that can be used to create advanced AI, complex algorithms, etc in a relatively simple and quick manner. For instance, for the map I'm creating for Crysis Wars and Crysis multiplayer, I have a flowchart that grabs the system clock time (usually the accurate time of day) and sets the in-game clock to that time so if I load the map at 5-7am, I get to see the sunrise in-game as well as out my window.
If you have a decent enough system to run the engine efficiantly and are into modding and mapping, it's certainly worth checking out, if only for the great community that has grown around it and has been fostered by Crytek. #unrealdevelopmentkit
11/10/09
#free
thanks for the detail reply, i might look into it. cuz im an 3d environmental artist who want to get into modding.
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If you want to head down the 3D modeller/artist route, I suggest getting something like Maya3D and learning how to use it, a degree would also be very beneficial.
Now, if you just want to make an old school RPG (ala pokemon, etc) I suggest getting RPG Maker, it requires little to no knowledge to make games with. #unrealdevelopmentkit
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Also, when you say you're taking basic programming, do you mean the language BASIC or Java or the like? I'd suggest making sure you don't leave college with at least a degree in C++
A couple of good games to mod and map that have good communties are Crysis/Cryengine2 or any of the Total War games. TF2 and the source engine in general are also good.
Here's some links:
[www.crymod.com]
[www.twcenter.net]
[developer.valvesoftware.com] #unrealdevelopmentkit
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Mapping is creating new maps. For instance, custom maps for COD4 or TF2.
Mapping is the easier of the two to pick up so I'd advise maybe having a go at that first, it is very time consuming though if you intend to create a full map and polish it up.
First however, if you haven't already got one, I'd suggest getting a decent PC. Mapping can be hard on RAM and processing power. I'd suggest at the least having something along the lines of an 8800GT graphics card, at least 2 gb of 800mhz RAM (DDR-6400) and a dual core (a quad core wouldn't hurt either if you can afford it). After that, I'd suggest using Sandbox 2 (the Cryengine2 editor) or the Source editor to start with as they have a load of documentation and are generally pretty user friendly. #unrealdevelopmentkit
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Given that, the reason we released this beta version was to get feedback about bugs and issues you uncover." #unrealdevelopmentkit
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No, I don't work for any studio, I haven't even got a degree in anything yet, I've just been using my free time for the past few years to learn some programming and the different aspects of game development along with dabbling in mods and maps.
Again, my bad for the mistake. #unrealdevelopmentkit
11/05/09
I've been in 3D animation sense 2001. I went to school for it and it really doesn't help as much as they claim it will. for artist. all you need to do is learn a program. if your art skills don't take over after learning how to use the tools. you're screwed.
But even though i went to school I'm about 80% self tough. I use Maya, Photoshop, Illustrator, Crazy bump and Zbrush. I focus on level design and modeling and in an artist sense I know UE3 pretty well. I've built 3 levels in it and currently in the processes of building a game with 4 other guys in it.
but yeah. the school suggestion thing just kind of made me wonder because the only people i see suggest that are people who work in studios that require them...or professors at a school. Even Cliffy B said a degree isn't necessary
we cool though #unrealdevelopmentkit
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I thought it worthwhile to mention anyway though because I know not everyone finds it easy to learn autonomously.
Anyway, thanks for understanding my mistake and replying back. #unrealdevelopmentkit
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Before that, the engine had to be licensed just so you could develop on it. This is a vast improvement as it reduces the startup cost for an indie dev significantly. #unrealdevelopmentkit
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I'll assume this is only free for the tools. The support on the side I guess will be the bit where they make their money, so you ain't gonna get any of that for free except community support.
However I feel this won't be as easy to use for a bedroom developer as just getting Unreal Editor n modding some maps n skins. Though it will help out small indie teams who don't care for the support.
And once they make a cool game Epic will poach them like Valve do :P #unrealdevelopmentkit
11/05/09
Smart move Epic. #unrealdevelopmentkit
11/05/09
Really????
THis is directly from the UDK-page (a summary of the EULA):
Example:
"A team creates a game with UDK that they intend to sell. After six months of development, they release the game through digital distribution and they earn €15,000 in the first calendar quarter after release. Their use of UDK during development requires no fee. After earning €15,000, they would be required to pay Epic €2,500 (€0 on the first €5,000 in revenue, and €2,500 on the next €10,000 in revenue). On subsequent revenue, they are required to pay the 25% royalty." #unrealdevelopmentkit
11/05/09
But the real brilliance is that unlike some other engines out there, there is no entry cost. Which makes it very lucrative to upstarts with no capital. And very lucrative to Epic when legion of upstarts become fluent with their engine. Upstart programmers who then get hired at big development studious. And then when the majority of new hires are all fluent in UE...why build your own engine when you've got a staff of people fluent in one already? Then comes Epic calling with a licensing deal for said big dev studio. #unrealdevelopmentkit
11/05/09
That's been their tactics for years. They had 3 "Make Something Unreal Contests". And legions of people entered. So there are a lot of experienced Unreal Devs out there.
The fact that UE is very easy to develop for (compared to Source for example) helps this alot.
Every company looked for Unreal devs on their job pages because it is so widespread. #unrealdevelopmentkit
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Cheers! #unrealdevelopmentkit
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（ ^_^）o自 #unrealdevelopmentkit
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They should just release every outdated version of Unreal for free and available to use commercially.
Otherwise, that's pretty nice of them. At least it could be used to gain experience and list said experience as a checkpoint in your résumé. #unrealdevelopmentkit
11/05/09
Read my post further down below:
I need to add this from Beyondunreal:
"With UDK, you will also be able to create commercial games to sell on digital distribution platforms like Steam. The licensing details for this have yet to be released, however it seems likely you will be able to start selling your game without spending a dime out of your own pocket" #unrealdevelopmentkit
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'Cause nobody (I'm guessing, could be wrong though) licenses the old engine when the new one is out so it would make sense. #unrealdevelopmentkit
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Free to develop the game ( minus any other commercial tools used and labour costs) then nothing to pay Epic if you want to sell it.
Free money for the both of you in theory. #unrealdevelopmentkit
11/05/09
I posted it somewhere else on this page. :) #unrealdevelopmentkit
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The fees don't seem to high actually. though 25% royalties is pretty fucking high. #unrealdevelopmentkit
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