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Platypus Man
11/13/09

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I hate Twitter, but I love Final Fantasy...

Damn you!!! It'd better be good...

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chronomasakari
11/14/09

@Platypus Man: If it counts, I don't think you even have to register for twitter, you just have to register your tag for the promo and hope everyone else twitters #finalfantasyxiii
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Platypus Man
11/14/09

@chronomasakari: Wanted to be sure, whatever it is... #finalfantasyxiii
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starscar.exe
11/13/09

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I'm not getting it for 360, but I'm willing to see what surprise this might be. #finalfantasyxiii
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BlueCrazy
11/13/09

@starscar.exe: PS3 Version! #finalfantasyxiii
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Pessimippopotamus
11/13/09

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Weeeee! Now I'll be able to dress up my male avatar as Lightning! #finalfantasyxiii
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jayntampa
11/13/09

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The registering and tweeting seem to be separate ... I would go ahead and register whether you plan to tweet or not :P

I highly doubt this is a very amazing gift ... still probably planning on getting the PS3 version, unless it's revealed that the 360 version is superior in some way. #finalfantasyxiii
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Archaotic
11/13/09

@jayntampa: Which is exactly what I did. I'll gladly profit off of other people's foolishness even though I have zero interest in promoting or purchasing the 360 version of the game. #finalfantasyxiii
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Bubbleman!
11/13/09

@jayntampa: Everytime I see your avatar I get a happy feeling. #finalfantasyxiii
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SacGamer
11/13/09

@Bubbleman!: It needs a face... #finalfantasyxiii
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mr_godot
11/13/09

@jayntampa: You get four discs for the price of one? #finalfantasyxiii
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Pombar
11/13/09

@Archaotic: 'Promoting'? You don't think it should exist?
I'm going to get the 360 version for budgetary reasons. Namely, I can barely afford one new console each generation. #finalfantasyxiii
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Archaotic
11/13/09

@Pombar: I don't like being lied to. The entire existence of FFXIII on 360 is a giant lie. #finalfantasyxiii
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Pombar
11/13/09

@Archaotic: Pfft. If it spreads the love to FF fans who were more or less forced by circumstance into hopping console brands, I'm all for it. All that "I don't want them to play it" malarky doesn't interest or impress. #finalfantasyxiii
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Archaotic
11/13/09

@Pombar: Then they should've announced it as multiplatform from the beginning and not gotten people's hopes up for it actually taking full advantage of this generation's hardware. #finalfantasyxiii
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jayntampa
11/13/09

@SacGamer: lol it's my gf and she thought it was cool for an avatar here based on the huge # of jubblies posts Ashcraft was putting up for awhile ... as long as it remained mostly anonymous :P #finalfantasyxiii
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jayntampa
11/13/09

@mr_godot: hmm ... I hadn't thought of it that way. Interesting perspective. #finalfantasyxiii
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Pombar
11/14/09

@Archaotic: Frankly, I don't think it really matters all that much. All 'making use of the full hardware' seemed to mean for MGS4 was 20 hours of virtually non-stop cutscene. #finalfantasyxiii
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Sakilla
11/14/09

@Pombar: His point is valid, though, when you look at a game like Uncharted 2. That game reeks of "made for one console and one console only". #finalfantasyxiii
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Archaotic
11/14/09

@Sakilla: Exactly. I would really kill to see a JRPG made for one console, to the best of its abilities; an Uncharted 2-level JRPG.

Even Lost Odyssey wasn't that, though that speaks more to the weaknesses of the developer (and the engine they used) than to the weaknesses of the 360. #finalfantasyxiii
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Pombar
11/14/09

@Archaotic: I just don't think milking a system's processing power is necessary in the slightest for a great blockbuster RPG - not in the same way it might be for a full-on action game like Uncharted 2 (which didn't strike me as particularly system unique - just a prettier Resi 5).

At this point I'm just hoping for a game with a story approaching FF6's, and storytelling approaching FF9's. Neither of which required buckets of power on the system's side. Just good writing, scenario direction, producing, etc. #finalfantasyxiii
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dagamer34
11/13/09

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Regardless of whatever Square-Enix says, I'm concerned that some of the FMV sequences will be heavily compressed on the 360. 4 360 discs is just 27.2GB (6.8GB each), and I have a hard time thinking that Square spent 2.5 years thinking that they had less that 25GB to deal with and was thinking of multi-platform from the beginning. #finalfantasyxiii
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Shin
11/13/09

@dagamer34: 360 can 'only' do DD5.1 and uses WMA pro streams, I'm pretty sure SQEX will, like Konami for MGS4 go all out on the PS3 with RAW lossless DTS 7.1 blablabla which prolly impacts a handful of ppl who both have the right home cinema setups AND ears to actually TELL the difference... (that should make a huge difference disc size/space-wise)
and just so you know textures and 3D models aren't actually stored the same way they were on ps1/ps2, now, smaller files are streamed to the RAM (hence the ps3 only having 256Mb ram and the 360 only 512) and then the graphics are created (calculated, scaled (more or less details if you're far or not from the said background for example), then rendered) on the fly by the console. so games don't take all that much space anymore.

now the graphics on the discs are pretty much compressed like it's "text" explaining : "look a basic tree is made of vectors with those coordinates, play with that a little and make a forest, apply this basic texture scheme/pattern (idea of the branches/leafs: fractals, it's all just maths in the end not necessarly HUGE textures you need to have on the disc) and DONE"( and you end up with a forest that actually looks like one and it's doesn't take a lot of space on the disc at all nor requires a huge space on the RAM nor for a long time(because needed files are streamed and processed on the fly)).
before, you had to have pretty much everything how it's supposed to look like on the screen, stored on the dvd, and that takes a LOT of physical memory, even for low resolution stuff like ps1/2.

what I'm saying is that they "could" actually keep the dvd media for the next xbox even if the game are all at a much higher resolution.

(sorry about my horrid english and my lenghty and confusing explanation, I'm not a native english speaker and it's 3 in the morning here, but I though some explanation would be interesting to some)

better explanation here :

[arstechnica.com]

[arstechnica.com]

'hope this clear things up a little bit :) #finalfantasyxiii
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deanbmmv
11/13/09

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Already done this. (thanks for the one who is "not Mike Fahey")

Though afterwards realised its kinda rude of 'em to require a hashtag to make this trend. #finalfantasyxiii
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excel_excel
11/13/09

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360 users getting up to change discs *snort* how quaint!

.....what do you mean GT5 is coming on 3 discs? but....but getting up to change discs is so last gen!....oh ok, its ok for GT but not for FF?.....why's that? No reason? oh ok
*smokes pipe* #finalfantasyxiii
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DustbinK
11/13/09

@excel_excel: As far as I can tell, the other discs are all bonus content. #finalfantasyxiii
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mellowspaz
11/13/09

@excel_excel: GT5 is coming out on 3 discs? I can't tell if that's sarcasm, because I haven't seen that anywhere. #finalfantasyxiii
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excel_excel
11/13/09

@mellowspaz: Its been shown that one version of it could have. I'm thinking maybe a bonus making of blu-ray and bonus content to install on the other. #finalfantasyxiii
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wallpaper42
11/13/09

@excel_excel: Nice defense man, disc swapping is awesome! Too bad it's just a complete rumor about GT5 having 3 discs at the moment. I hope to god that it isn't just a stupid limited edition or something. I want some disc swapping action! #finalfantasyxiii
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Golgari
11/13/09

@excel_excel: Actually we don't know yet about 3 disks, but Blu Ray can store now about 200 GB.

3 disks can be just a rip off. Ultra Density Optical can handle GT 5 without any problem. #finalfantasyxiii
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excel_excel
11/13/09

@wallpaper42: I have been made a fool of. Death will come swiftly and justly to the 2 people who told me this information. #finalfantasyxiii
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excel_excel
11/13/09

@Golgari: Just want to make it clear my above post was in jest. *smokes pipe*

As for the 200GB disc the only problem then is load times. The PS3's a 2x blu-ray reader, so with the extra data comes longer loading. A portion of it would have to be installed and it may be too big to work with #finalfantasyxiii
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carlmarsailas_returns
11/13/09

@excel_excel: GT5's making of will be length of FF8;). #finalfantasyxiii
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Michael Dukakis
11/13/09

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Twitter is the root of all evil! #finalfantasyxiii
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mintycrys is HOT for Bayonetta
11/13/09

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So I guess I like Twitter now!

brb signing up for Twitter #finalfantasyxiii
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AncientUnknown1
11/13/09

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As a PS3 and 360 owner I'm leaning toward the PS3 version because it was the lead platform (AFAIK).

The 360 bonus would gave to be very impressive to persuade me otherwise. #finalfantasyxiii
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WhiteMåge
11/13/09

@AncientUnknown1: Both were developed individually.

That is to say that I believe the PS3 one was finished, then they worked on the 360 one. Obviously "porting" the PS3 one, but not just copying it. Each is optimized to work as it should, at its best. IIRC, of course. :p #finalfantasyxiii
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jayislost
11/13/09

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Registered and retweeted, just for all you FF players out there (I don't do RPG's myself). See, I'm selfless like that. ;-)

I got the feeling from reading this article that there would be one winner, but the Xbox site made me think it was something every player could win, or gain access to anyway. Mmmm, mysterious. #finalfantasyxiii
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TRT-X
11/13/09

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A friggin' Summon add-on for my Avatar would make this at LEAST a rental... #finalfantasyxiii
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jandlecack
11/13/09

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Not a fifth DVD containing extra FF XIII content

Haha.

Was it confirmed to have four discs on 360, then? I must have missed that. #finalfantasyxiii
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KaneRobot
11/12/09

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Twitter and Facebook are fine...Facebook is really limited compared to the actual site but looking at pics is actually nicer on the 360, the slideshow feature is probably the best part about the interface. Twitter is doesn't let you look at pics but, again, I kind of like the 360 interface better.

Last.fm is fantastic. Wish you could listen outside of the application (ie in games), but I wasn't really expecting that. #facebook
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TRT-X
11/12/09

@KaneRobot: That's the only thing it's really missing. Right now it's just last-fm that also takes up my 360 and TV while it's running.

If I could get tunes streaming while playing games...now that'd be sweet. #facebook
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TRT-X
11/12/09

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Is Zune intentionally left out? I've noticed that every time I've gone to watch videos (which now requires Zune) I have to download an update for it.

This can't be right... #facebook
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WatershipDown
11/12/09

@TRT-X: They've been updating it. I noticed a huge speed increase in one of the patches. This is the open beta afterall :) #facebook
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TRT-X
11/12/09

@WatershipDown: I haven't used it enough, but if that's the case then at least I know it's nothing on my end. :)

I was in the NXE beta as well, and I'm not too pleased with how little they've been keeping us updated...at least via the 360 interface.

That "Announcements" thing would have been a good place to note the updates. #facebook
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