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singing pigs in elevators
11/20/09

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I've always found it hard to drum up excitement for the handheld Zelda games. I've always enjoyed the ones I've played, but it's never something that makes me really jump for joy. Dunno why.

Console Zelda games, on the other hand, I will always buy. Always. Can't get enough.
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11/20/09

@singing pigs in elevators: Absolutely! Why fix what ain't broken? I understand the desire to move to the handheld platform due to the Japanese consumer loving the idea of playing Zelda on the train, but honestly I think it has diminished the impact of the series. The same applies to multi player, I don't want to compete with other Links in a mini-game, I want to go out an find things so I can find things. The way that most of the Zeldas have worked thus far.

I am still baffled as to why there isnt a Windwaker s(pr)equel on the Wii yet. That would be a major hit!
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N●Gage Croal is grabbin' peels
11/20/09

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Despite not having beaten Phantom Hourglass and not really liking The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker (yeah, I said it – you wanna fight?!)

Yes, yes I do.

GADOUKEN!
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linkthe2nd
11/21/09

@N●Gage Croal: So you can shoot things out of your hands, big whoop, wanna fight about it?
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N●Gage Croal is grabbin' peels
11/21/09

@linkthe2nd:
Well, yes, that's kinda the point I'm making here.
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linkthe2nd
11/21/09

@N●Gage Croal:
WHOOOOOSH.
#speakup
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Knoxximus ver. 5.66
11/20/09

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Just throw Four Swords on it. Point, end, period.
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WhiteMåge
11/20/09

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You know Four Swords isn't Zelda Spirit Tracks, right? Just checking. Misleading-ass picture not appreciated. It got my hopes up for a second.
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fearing
11/20/09

@WhiteMåge: The link up there in the article that says "multiplayer" leads to a previous article about Spirit Tracks multiplayer mode where you play as one of each of the four colored Links from Four Swords.... sure it wasn't really the topic of this particular article, but it's in the game somewhere anyway. :)
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Atomsk88
11/20/09

@fearing: Yeah, not to mention the image features a Phantom. You know, an enemy that first appeared in Phantom Hourglass.
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WhiteMåge
11/20/09

@fearing: Still misleading as hell. Those links are referencing four swords, I don't think a single personw ould see that and think "Oh, Zelda spirit tracks!"
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WhiteMåge
11/20/09

@Atomsk88: Much like how any picture of an octorok is obviously a picture of the original zelda, right? :\

It looks exactly like a damn darknut on top of that.
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fearing
11/20/09

@WhiteMåge: No, the link within the article, in the second paragraph, leads directly to an article about Spirit Tracks multiplayer mode, which I believe the picture in this article is from, which plays similar to Four Swords multiplayer. Not too big a deal, just sayin, I think it DOES have that style multiplayer in it judging by the linked article.
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Atomsk88
11/20/09

@WhiteMåge: Except for the trademark sword and shield. :P

Though I'll admit, they're pretty similar. Still, there was just an article today that revealed multiplayer, which is one of the links.

You can always check out Gametrailers for some multiplayer videos too.
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WhiteMåge
11/20/09

@fearing: I know that, I mean the picture itself is misleading regardless, as those links drawn in that style with those colors are the four swords links. The multiplayer mode is referencing four swords, so that art looks like four swords art.
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eimajtl
11/20/09

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Meh, I might pick this up if I get a DS again, but like you, I never bothered finishing Phantom Hourglass either. I'm just not too fond of the handheld Zelda series.

Also, it sounds like they're forcing crappy controls on you again just for the sake of using the touch screen. Yeah, I know, it's kinda the hallmark of the DS, but you don't have to make Every Single Thing done through the touchscreen. I hated, hated, HATED not being able to use the little d-pad to move around in the last game... I mean, they could have at least given me the option to switch to that.
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AJ Glasser
11/20/09

@eimajtl: Actually, I like stylus-only games if they're done well. When the d-pad is used for directional movement, it just hurts the hell out of my thumb -- especially in action-y games.
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eimajtl
11/20/09

@AJ Glasser: I don't mind having to use the stylus either, it's fun when it's implemented well. I just really didn't like having to use the stylus to move Link around, it felt way too cumbersome. Using the d-pad never bothered my thumbs, though, so guess that's one of the reasons I didn't like the stylus movement too much.

Having small hands ain't so bad when it comes to playing the DS. =]

#speakup
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GohanGVO
06/24/09

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I know a lot of folks are upset that a Zelda game may be far more restrictive from an exploration angle than past titles, but I think this is Nintendo aiming to make it a PORTABLE Zelda. A game that you can pick up for a few minutes, make some progress, and then shut the lid so that you can get off of the bus.

Now, I am not saying I agree with the philosophy. Nintendo's own history sort of betrays this movement (Link's Awakening and the Oracle games). And, I am sure there are plenty of people who would rather see the company create a new IP instead of using the Zelda brand.

However, perhaps folks should realign their outlooks based on what the game is TRYING to do as opposed to what they WISH it COULD HAVE been ... ?
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Malfunktion v2
06/24/09

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another 100 years have passed? I swear if this series was chronological it would be the year 3,000 by now. So much for the technological advancement of the people of Hyrule.
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GohanGVO
06/24/09

@Malfunktion v2: Well, the world WAS flooded leading up to the events of Wind Waker. That would certainly put a dent in technological advancements and their required materials. :P
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Mit
06/24/09

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Bah, it bugs me that now they've settled on these two Link designs they're sticking with them. Before it seemed easy to separate all the different Links, as the games for different consoles always featured a new design (although the one used for Gameboy games always remained relatively the same, but that was less detailed...). It wasn't hard to imagine every Link as being a different person.

Now we're getting another DS title with what looks to be the exact same Link, although this is apparently 100 years later (I'm guessing to explain the receded water). The next Wii title also apparently features a different Link from Twilight Princess, but he looks like the same person, only a tad older.

They couldn't have like, made some minor hair changes? Or little detail changes to their tunics? Anything? :\
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Đipic
06/24/09

@Mit: I was thinking the same exact thing.
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GohanGVO
06/24/09

@Mit: To be fair to Zelda Wii, there is only one piece of character art to base the entire visual style on.

While I doubt Link will radically different from it, perhaps we should wait until the visual style is seen in game before writing it off? After all, lest one not forgot what occurred with what was seen at Spaceworld 2000 and the final style applied to Wind Waker ...
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Platypus Man
06/24/09

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I liked Phantom Hourglass, but the whole train thing just seems... lame... But it's Zelda, so I know I'll get it. Here's my money, Nintendo!
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denki
06/24/09

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Pigs aren't a new species to harass in the Zelda series, seeing as how you could do it in Wind Waker-

Funny that most people (at least in America) hated the sailing in both Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass, but they get all excited about using trains. Yay! The same thing again! When it comes out there will probably be a lot of bitching about how the train missions are long and unnecessary. Not from me though- I dislike the train for other reasons. Wind Waker's sailing was great, horseback was best in Ocarina, and now we get to be confined to an on-rails shooter. Exploring used to be a point of the Zelda games...
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Erwin
06/24/09

@denki: Hey, Wind Waker may be my favourite 3D Zelda, and it may be another's least, but you're looking at it all wrong. EVERYONE loves trains. From songs to books, kids shows to Japanese sims, Nintendo's just jumping on the train gravy train.

Trains. Fuck yeah.
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quidsquid
06/24/09

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as long as you dont have to go back to the same dungeon over and over and over again it will be a much better game.
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Gyaruson
06/24/09

@quidsquid:

Stupid Temple of the Ocean King!! I hate you so goddamn much!!
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Corduroy Turtle
06/24/09

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I wasn't the biggest fan of an all stylus controlled Zelda, and actually didn't get far beyond the first dungeon in Phantom Hourglass. This one isn't looking to pull me in either, it seems.

It does look gorgeous (for a DS game...).
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Mister Jack started the Save The Lombax Foundation
06/24/09

@-[[CHoZO]]-: I quit playing Phantom Hourglass when I found out there's one dungeon you have to repeat after every other dungeon. So that's doing the same dungeon seven or eight times. Fuck that shit.
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BassForever
06/24/09

@Busting makes Mister Jack feel good: Except that everytime you go back whatever new item you had allows you to take a massive shortcut and skip most of the puzzles you solved once. On your 3rd or 4th trip you can create a half way warp point that never leaves.
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Mister Jack started the Save The Lombax Foundation
06/24/09

@BassForever: Here's a better idea. Leave that stupid dungeon out entirely.
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FanBuoy
06/24/09

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Set 100 years after?

So presumably a new Link.

Man, this is going to piss the timeline theorists off.
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Mit
06/24/09

@FanBuoy: Why? They don't have to theorize anything, Nintendo is telling them when it takes place. O_o
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Project_J187
06/24/09

@FanBuoy: Its weird that Nintendo pretty much kills off previous link and has a new, reincarnated link for all the games.

Make no mistake - Phantom hourglass link is dead from old age or scurvy. Probably the latter.
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Gyaruson
06/24/09

@Mit:

I know. Everyone is trying to tie all the Zelda's together, but that's like finding a logical timeline in the Madden series. It's a new game. That's it.
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MaxDragon7
06/24/09

@FanBuoy: 100 years after?

Wait, if there's an ocean of sea everywhere in Phantom Hourglass, shouldn't the Zelda Universe be completely engulfed by water by the time Spirit Tracks rolls around?

I'd figure the Hyrulians would have solved global warming by the time Windwaker came by..

Hmm..
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Rozeros
06/24/09

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Phantom Hourglass wasn't very fun for me so I'm kinda fearful of this one.

I guess I'll just have to wait further down the line to see if it's worth hopping on the tracks.
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MrBionic
06/24/09

@Rozeros: I wanted to like Phantom Hourglass, but it bored the hell out me. It was like taking the worst part of Wind Waker, and making it an even more important part of the game. Ugh.
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Đipic
06/24/09

@Rozeros: Yeah, I thought it was okay but certainly not my favorite portable Zelda. Going back to that same dungeon over and over definitely didn't help.
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Project_J187
06/24/09

@Rozeros: I thought I liked it until I realized that it wasn't fun for me. I fear that I am just starting to grow out of the Zelda trend. Started when I was 5 with legend of Zelda and now 20 years later (currently 25) I seem to no longer care about Zelda games.

OoT is still the most badass game ever though.
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MaxDragon7
06/24/09

@Rozeros: Phantom Hourglass was pretty fun. It wasn't too much of a joyride, but what made the game fun was that the collectibles were fun to get, and the dungeons were somewhat easy, yet challenging. The gameplay was unique, and it was interesting to settle into the DS style of Zelda gameplay.

My big complaint would be about the large dungeon that you're forced to go back to after each important segment in the story. That kind of ruined it for me at times. Most of the time though, the game was great to play.
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Michael Dukakis
06/24/09

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Those are two really random thing to combine... lets make a Mario Airlines game.
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Đipic
06/24/09

@Michael Dukakis: Meh, I'm not surprised to see it's inclusion though. The Japanese fucking love their trains.
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