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07/22/09
We paid for TF2, so we should get the updates too. Screaming PC supremacy rants at us won't make us feel better that we're not getting what we were promised.
My brother recently got the Steam version of Team Fortress 2. "Brilliant" I thought, no more waiting for those updates on Live. This was before I found out I'd need to buy my own copy as you can only play on one Steam account. Fantastic.
As for the class limiting, I could care less. I'm not bothered what class I play as, each one provides different challenges and perks.
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07/21/09
Ah yes, the already hundreds of hours Ive used them... so much awsomeness.. so much greatness..
Oh wait Im not making you jealous am I?
Ha ha just kidding.. Anyways, this is what happens when a developer who does great on the PC market, leaves it up to a 3rd party company to port the game over, and t ry on their own to make patches for it when they already said the reason they had a 3rd party company port it in the first place was do to the lack of training in their own team.
So with the majority of their team being PC trained with hardly any 360 training, of course its gonna be years till they patch the game..
Odds are they will wait until they release all of the classes for the PC and then release one super mega large patch for the 360 that will give all of them at once.
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I have one question though. Is the update required? 'Cause if you don't want it, don't download it.
Edit: Wow, I'm using this edit button even though I told myself I wouldn't.
BTW, I have the 360 version (constantly play it) and have never played the PC version. I am currently debating over buying the PC one.
07/22/09
On another note, why don't you like the idea of limiting classes. I don't know about the 360 version but in the PC version, it's very common to get teams of engies and snipers while you're supposed to be on the attack or teams of demomen, etc, etc but no medics. Limiting the amount of players that can play a particular class diversifies the teams which in turn improves the quality of the team overall.
07/22/09
Though as I commented earlier, it seems that even after I updated, I still didn't see these new options when I tried to host a game.
I think that the PC version would be a definite buy for me if only I would know how well it worked with my laptop. It's a Latitude E6400 with C2D 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM, and an NVIDIA Quadro NVS 160M (256MB dedicated) workstation graphics card. NVIDIA says DX10 support but I still don't believe it being workstation cards work differently from "consumer" video cards.
07/21/09
Look, I been stating what many others are stating now with regards to this article about the 360 Orange Box DLC support or rather lack off and promises are just that, promises. When ever I saw a Kotaku article about Half Life/Portal/Team Fortress and/or any article which involve Valve I will post about them neglecting the 360 version of Orange Box (I never mentioned the PS3 version because they said they wanted nothing to do with that system) and now finally they release an update but WTF kind of update is this? Not worth the long wait. Come on Valve, how long is it going to take you for a proper update/DLC release? By now many owners of the this game(s) are no longer owners they either gave it to someone else or sold it. I still have it though and will retain my copy on until the tree lets go off the apple or promises become vaporware. How can other commenters try to explain that there is no real update and/or DLC release because they ran into a (360) system ram problems? How? They obviously don't have this problems with Left 4 Dead. I hate the world.
07/22/09
Sure, this isn't going to be much to someone who is waiting for that pack to arrive but paitence is a virtue. Also, this will give you a nice feeling of what it's like to be a PC gamer ignored by the majority of developers and publishers and only having Valve and Blizzard as your last bastions of hope.
07/21/09
the game's classes balance themselves. too many pyros? build a sentry. too many snipers? go spy. too many heavies? go sniper.
gosh, anyone who actual wants valve to support the 360 needs to just invest in a new computer. i haven't played a FPS with a controller since halo. i mean, it works for what you gotta do, but the PC is where its at. console controller = beer goggles.
07/21/09
So to clear some misconceptions, Valve is NOT being a bunch of lazyasses and they're NOT actively refusing to support the 360. They're waiting until the right time comes.
Now, for the PS3, that's a different story...
07/21/09
i agree, they've said over and over they only want to charge for the whole shebang.ms wants to charge for the dlc. i guess people would be happy shelling out 5-10 for each update.....
funny how people were up in arms over the capcom dlc with sf4 and re5, and when a company tries to do the exact opposite.....
07/21/09
I used to think PC gamers were just being elitist when they say superior versions of games are on the PC, but boy is that apparent with TF2. Makes me wonder how true it is with all those other games, makes this former exclusively console gamer unsure about his allegiances.
07/21/09
"console gamer unsure about his allegiances"
ooooh Ohhh! I got an idea!
Don't make allegiances with consoles or PCs?
07/21/09
Some games just work better on PC, others on consoles. I prefer GTA/open world games on the 360, FPS on the PC.
This is not to say every open world is better on consoles, or every FPS is better on PC.
Unfortunately human nature dictates we must form strong bonds with things we own, putting down someone's source of prestige is a battle you're always going to lose.
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welcome to our side, it's brighter over here.
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Well watch what you say...because you'll bait fanboys.
As you can see from a few comments.
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For example Oblivion has a shitload of stuff that makes the original game better to play and a lot of mods. Neverwinter Nights 2 has additional campaigns, HL2 has a lot of single player and multi mods, some really well crafted like NeoTokyo, Dystopia or Zombie Master... Also the PC game graphics is better, Bioshock looks better on my PC than the xbox version for example (and you can use mouse to aim)... I'm not a fanboy since i have an xbox 360 too, but when the PC version is not a mere port, i usually end up to take the game for PC
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I stuck WinXP on my Mac through Boot Camp for the expressed purpose of playing TF2.
07/21/09
"...This is not the update I'm looking for..."
"He can go about his business."
"...You can go about your business..."
"Move along."
"...Move along...Move along..."
07/21/09
It's just disheartening to see all these cool updates that are going out to the PC community while console users see nothing on our end. It doesn't make sense to me that Valve would offer such amazing support for one version of the game and none for the other.
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07/21/09
I too bought Orange box originally on 360 but i just couldn't wait for updates that might never happen so i got the PC version and have been enjoying it ever since. Its a shame console owners get shafted (both 360 and PS3 in this case) as i really think Valve could have done better with TF2 on consoles. I mean, they could release TF2 standalone on XBLA/PSN and i'm willing to bet it could outsell games like Battlefield 1942. Then they could add the updates and it wouldn't feel like they've missed the boat.
Interestingly the 360 TF2 community isn't dead and still has a following, although completely small now.
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07/22/09
Considering the price, and what you get, I don't see how anyone could feel ripped off with the orange box. Ignore the pc version for a sec and look at the 5 incredible games you got for the price of one.
It's a bit annoying that the 360 version is so unsupported but it's not like they haven't said why, the updates are coming. My main gripe is that they haven't patched the map exploits.
But today's update is a start.
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Maddening, isn't it? I usually play Engie, until half the team goes Engie, and I realize that spies are fucking everyone up. So then I go Pyro to do the fucking job that someone else should've done in the first place.
My favorite is Dustbowl Area 3, Point 1 on Defense. Run right into the base and come up behind them. I've wiped out an entire team like that before.
07/21/09
Thanks for the attention, Valve.
Might be the end of all of my whole team going spy and dressing up as the opposing team's heavies, though.
God, that's fun.
07/21/09
Unless 2fort without engies or medics becomes common...
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All snipers on Dustbowl.
Pyros and Spies on Gravel Pit.
All Medic and One Spy per team on Well.
It's hilarious to watch. Everyone that stayed had a blast.