Oddly enough there are already Milsims and some are actually decent to play. I guess console gamers must be unaware of them since developers arcade it up for console. #modernwarfare2
@1Mystic-G: Just what i wanted to do... do things in a video game that i can do in real life that would pay me, but since it is a video game I have to pay to do it.
@1Mystic-G: I thought that both Modern Warfare games already involved fighting Milsims like, Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban and stuff. #modernwarfare2
@Vecha: One more Month: Actually it's an old term for dumb down. Must be our 'elitist' PC lingo. I see slick remarks, but I don't see anyone saying I'm wrong so I ain't worried. #modernwarfare2
@Vecha: One more Month:
I just find it ironic that console players have a double standard and yet they don't see it. They continue to cry 'elitist' when a PC gamer makes a remark about the 360/ps3 and yet console gamers rag on the Wii for casualizing the market all the time. The back side of the hand is very ugly when face at yourself. Arcade and Sim are common and polar opposite terms, it's a nicer way of saying dumbing it down yes. #modernwarfare2
I definitely see your point when addressing the wii. I was going to bring it up in my previous post.
I think people are just afraid of losing what they have/having to see a change.
I actually think the gaming industry has already gone through this change.
I really have a hard time with older games...since the more recent titles are becoming more and more easy(and letting me actually choose an easy setting...lol) #modernwarfare2
Excellently done, lol. It's cool that they got Infinity Ward to develop those boring scenes, akin to how Blizzard animated for the South Park episode "Make Love, Not Warcraft". Gotta love em.
In fact, makes you wonder if this was all IW's idea in the first place. #modernwarfare2
@Archaotic: I really, really hope you're being sarcastic on that second point - I think you are, but it's hard to tell on the internet and I think we've all seen some stupid things online.... #modernwarfare2
@ryoshi: I used to respect them for being a good source of comedy and satire. I wouldn't expect them to stoop to actually blatantly advertising something they should be mocking mercilessly. #modernwarfare2
@Archaotic: If you've ever read the Onion, they use actual products in stories all the time. Even so, this isn't an actual product, it's a fictional sequel, on a website everyone knows is satire. How is that advertising again? #modernwarfare2
@normandygahn: Again, it would've been satire if they had just stopped with the initial joke. But, as I said before, the fact that they went out of their way to probably have IW edit game code to give them "in-game footage" to use as part of their satire pushes it over the edge into marketing territory.
Remember, marketing can be any kind of promotional stuff; marketing isn't just about making your product look good, it's about capturing consumer mind-share. You can do that in many ways. This is one of them.
@Archaotic: Curse these companies for wanting people to hear about their product.
If it were up to me, we would all stumble blindly through an ungodly abyss of random products. Ideas like brands and uses would go by the wayside as our collective memories would be erased each time we got a new product; that way companies wouldn't even be able to rely on word of mouth or consumer loyalty. We would all madly claw at each new item without any understanding of the products properties or even its very existence. #modernwarfare2
The Onion does parodies on all sorts of different products and people. They're not to give them advertising.
see: video on apple, sony, WoW, etc. #modernwarfare2
@Archaotic: Look over your shoulder and down, I think you have rare condition called "stick up your ass" syndrome.
You're peeved Infinity Ward partnered with a satire news group to make a sketch using custom game assets and animations. You're angry because it's really clever and respectable marketing. And you're angry that the Onion is somehow tainted because they're a part of this, probably even the instigators of the whole idea.
@Opuelas: Clever? Perhaps. Respectable? Maybe it would be if the game wasn't being advertised on every gaming-related site, network, blog, and TV show in the universe. The game is as over-exposed as Janet Jackson's nipple was after that stupid Super Bowl half-time show. If this was the only ad for the game I'd have no problem with it, but it's just a cog in the machine that is the MW2 marketing blitzkrieg and thus I am inclined to stand against it.
The only thing that would please me is the game going away. Far away.
Advertisting happens in a lot of ways besides commercials and billboards. Everytime someone drinks a Coke in a movie, it's because Coke paid for it to be there. In fact, any time a brand item appears in a movie or a TV show, it's because the company paid for their product to be seen on the show.
Archaotic thinks this is happening here. He's probably right. If IW gave the Onion any money, special assets to use in the piece, or simply permission to talk about their product, they did it knowing that it would help generate publicity for the game. It's not a viral ad, but it's still part of the publicity machine.
As for you other point, Archaotic, the Onion really has gone downhill. They were much better 10 years ago. "Our Dumb Century"? Classic. Onion News Network? Not so much. #modernwarfare2
@Archaotic: FYI, there's a little thing in entertainment, particularly comedy, called "timeliness." A lot of people even appreciate it. But don't let that get in the way of your naysaying. #modernwarfare2
@Archaotic: Fair enough--if you're sick of the game then I can understand the antagonism to a beloved group picking up the MW2 banner. There has indeed been a flood of marketing for the title; I take back my stick-up-the-ass comment. #modernwarfare2
We're talking about video games and a satirical/fake news company.
Aside from the fact that I don't think it's "viral marketing," it's funny and ultimately, that is ALL that matters.
How could you possibly lose respect?
Lets assume it is viral marketing:
The Onion (humor site with no need or claim of journalistic standards or integrity) -- Needs to make money to keep paying writers to be funny/produce segments.
Every video game development/publishing company: Needs to sell their releases to make money and make more games.
So, they (possibly -- why am I even giving this idea credibility) paid The Onion for a not-actually but still actually is, advertisement.
Who is in the wrong? The company receiving ad revenue or the company promoting, even indirectly, their product?
Hint:
If you said either one, or both: you're an idiot. #modernwarfare2
@Archaotic: if the game wasn't being advertised on every gaming-related site, network, blog, and TV show in the universe. The game is as over-exposed as Janet Jackson's nipple was after that stupid Super Bowl half-time show.
1) It's a new release. A BIG NEW RELEASE. That's why it's being advertised.
2) Over exposed? It's not like you're favorite punk band just signed to a major and is guest hosting TRL, it's a video game. A popular video game.
3) You could barely see her nipple, even in still shots, so your painfully dated Janet Jackson's nipple analogy is both bad and bad.
What a fucking bizarre thing to waste time arguing about. And look at me. I'm doing it to. FML. #modernwarfare2
I don't think so. If the tits get too big they start smelling like armpits underneath. Plus the sag factor makes big breasts look like nutsacks when they're 65 yrs old.
@TaylorEatWorld has become a Never-nude!: You guys are all so shallow. When will you see women for their INNER BEAUTY, instead of letting some superficial imperfection like enormous breasts keep you away?
Dangeresque (Kojima-san doesn't have to make Metal Gear any more) was starred
Dangeresque (Kojima-san doesn't have to make Metal Gear any more) was unstarred
@ShaggE: Just goes to show you how far the quality of comments/commenters have plummeted over the past year. Sacrificing quality for quantity is never a good thing.
Although, I do agree that this game isn't as 'revolutionary' as people make it out to be, I still think this will move a lot of consoles. I'm just going to wait for a Greatest Hits release.
11/10/09
Did Onion do this with real Inifinity Ward employees? #modernwarfare2
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Take that fun away and give me realism! Realism I say! Realism! #modernwarfare2
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11/10/09
What, like Full Spectrum Warrior for the original Xbox (and eventually the PS2, and eventually the PC) ?
If I'm not mistaken, the "original" version of the simulator (i.e. sans bells and whistles) was available in the game as well. #modernwarfare2
11/10/09
*Sarcasm* #modernwarfare2
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Arcade....the new word for "dumbing" down?
Man.... #modernwarfare2
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I've been a PC gamer since Doom/Elder Scrolls-Arena...and I don't remember hearing "Arcade" as a term for that.
I thought Arcades were pretty difficult...though I suck at fighter games.
What do you mean you aren't worried?
Fear of the "casual" market getting you? ;)
I think the "hardcore" PC crowd should chill a bit. No one is going to take away your PC games. Still plenty of great PC games. #modernwarfare2
11/10/09
I just find it ironic that console players have a double standard and yet they don't see it. They continue to cry 'elitist' when a PC gamer makes a remark about the 360/ps3 and yet console gamers rag on the Wii for casualizing the market all the time. The back side of the hand is very ugly when face at yourself. Arcade and Sim are common and polar opposite terms, it's a nicer way of saying dumbing it down yes. #modernwarfare2
11/10/09
11/10/09
I definitely see your point when addressing the wii. I was going to bring it up in my previous post.
I think people are just afraid of losing what they have/having to see a change.
I actually think the gaming industry has already gone through this change.
I really have a hard time with older games...since the more recent titles are becoming more and more easy(and letting me actually choose an easy setting...lol) #modernwarfare2
11/10/09
In fact, makes you wonder if this was all IW's idea in the first place. #modernwarfare2
11/10/09
Seriously, viral marketing though the Onion? I used to respect those guys, but this... #modernwarfare2
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It's advertising. It's "clever", but it's still advertising. Trust me. #modernwarfare2
11/10/09
Really? It's the Onion... #modernwarfare2
11/10/09
11/10/09
Remember, marketing can be any kind of promotional stuff; marketing isn't just about making your product look good, it's about capturing consumer mind-share. You can do that in many ways. This is one of them.
11/10/09
11/10/09
11/10/09
If it were up to me, we would all stumble blindly through an ungodly abyss of random products. Ideas like brands and uses would go by the wayside as our collective memories would be erased each time we got a new product; that way companies wouldn't even be able to rely on word of mouth or consumer loyalty. We would all madly claw at each new item without any understanding of the products properties or even its very existence. #modernwarfare2
11/10/09
I swear to god, the amount of publicity this game is getting could raise Atlantis from the bottom of the ocean and then sink it again. Ugh.
11/10/09
The Onion does parodies on all sorts of different products and people. They're not to give them advertising.
see: video on apple, sony, WoW, etc. #modernwarfare2
11/10/09
You're peeved Infinity Ward partnered with a satire news group to make a sketch using custom game assets and animations. You're angry because it's really clever and respectable marketing. And you're angry that the Onion is somehow tainted because they're a part of this, probably even the instigators of the whole idea.
Does nothing please you? #modernwarfare2
11/10/09
The only thing that would please me is the game going away. Far away.
11/10/09
Advertisting happens in a lot of ways besides commercials and billboards. Everytime someone drinks a Coke in a movie, it's because Coke paid for it to be there. In fact, any time a brand item appears in a movie or a TV show, it's because the company paid for their product to be seen on the show.
Archaotic thinks this is happening here. He's probably right. If IW gave the Onion any money, special assets to use in the piece, or simply permission to talk about their product, they did it knowing that it would help generate publicity for the game. It's not a viral ad, but it's still part of the publicity machine.
As for you other point, Archaotic, the Onion really has gone downhill. They were much better 10 years ago. "Our Dumb Century"? Classic. Onion News Network? Not so much. #modernwarfare2
11/10/09
11/10/09
11/10/09
We're talking about video games and a satirical/fake news company.
Aside from the fact that I don't think it's "viral marketing," it's funny and ultimately, that is ALL that matters.
How could you possibly lose respect?
Lets assume it is viral marketing:
The Onion (humor site with no need or claim of journalistic standards or integrity) -- Needs to make money to keep paying writers to be funny/produce segments.
Every video game development/publishing company: Needs to sell their releases to make money and make more games.
So, they (possibly -- why am I even giving this idea credibility) paid The Onion for a not-actually but still actually is, advertisement.
Who is in the wrong? The company receiving ad revenue or the company promoting, even indirectly, their product?
Hint:
If you said either one, or both: you're an idiot. #modernwarfare2
11/10/09
1) It's a new release. A BIG NEW RELEASE. That's why it's being advertised.
2) Over exposed? It's not like you're favorite punk band just signed to a major and is guest hosting TRL, it's a video game. A popular video game.
3) You could barely see her nipple, even in still shots, so your painfully dated Janet Jackson's nipple analogy is both bad and bad.
What a fucking bizarre thing to waste time arguing about. And look at me. I'm doing it to. FML. #modernwarfare2
10/08/09
04/30/09
Huh...
And I though it was because the developers weren't allowed to look at porn on their jobs.
The more ya know.
04/30/09
sarcasm
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My fav by far is the youtube "actually good" contest.
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Does this make me unmanly?
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I don't think so. If the tits get too big they start smelling like armpits underneath. Plus the sag factor makes big breasts look like nutsacks when they're 65 yrs old.
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I'm dating my girlfriend because she's smart, beautiful and a wonderful person to hang around.
She also happens to have breasts, I love them. Is there anything wrong with that?
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Shooting people in the face... Not so funny IMO.
04/07/09
04/07/09
Boring dialogue and then red screens then boring dialogue then red screens then more boring shit.
What the fuck??!?!
04/07/09
I think you just missed out on the satire of the whole game.
Really, really missed it.
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Although, I do agree that this game isn't as 'revolutionary' as people make it out to be, I still think this will move a lot of consoles. I'm just going to wait for a Greatest Hits release.
04/07/09
I agree, though. The banhammer hasn't been striking very hard, and the effects are beginning to show.