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dreamfall
02/18/09

In reply to Frankenreview: Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost And The Damned
ah I WISH I could play this. damn you ps3! I'm off to fire up flower before I throw something.
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DugDawg
02/19/09

@dreamfall: I went ahead and bought both consoles. Granted, I have a job and make decent money, but save up for both. You can't go wrong that way.
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apoloimagod
02/18/09

In reply to Frankenreview: Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost And The Damned
Why do people keep getting the name of this game wrong??? It's not The Lost and *THE* Damned... the name is "The Lost and Damned".

-- AI
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DugDawg
02/19/09

@apoloimagod: Hmm, I suppose you're right. It sounds more grammatically correct with that extra "the".
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heretrix
02/18/09

In reply to Frankenreview: Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost And The Damned
It one thing I've always enjoyed about the GTA series is that they get their characters RIGHT. Nothing ever feels forced or corny, just accurate. I've been playing the DLC and I'm glad to say they haven't lost their touch.

The control is just as shitty as ever though and the save system sucks balls. They really need to fix that shit.
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Coochie
02/18/09

In reply to Frankenreview: Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost And The Damned
too bad it's supeeer buggy. My version of johnny is unable to punch, kick, or special punch... so yea being a biker and being unable to brawl is pretty un-OK
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DugDawg
02/19/09

@Coochie: I did experience one bug. I walked up to the counter at Burger Shot and Johnny froze solid. I could check my map and everything, but couldn't move Johnny. All I wanted was a burger!
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ShaggE: Cracking Eggs Of Wisdom
02/18/09

In reply to Frankenreview: Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost And The Damned
Well worth every point it was given, IMO. It's almost long enough and different enough to be considered a sequel of sorts (despite being in the same city), and for twenty bucks and a download the size of the average demo, that's very impressive.

One complaint, though: Johnny's voice acting: Not so great.
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DugDawg
02/19/09

@ShaggE: Agreed. I do love the gang aspects though, like how riding around in formation gives you health benefits, and how you can call your brothers for backup and guns. It's all about the brotherhood!
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Laho
02/18/09

In reply to Frankenreview: Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost And The Damned
I wonder how many GTA 4 sold on PS3.

With that 50 million gift from Microsoft, and going off the idea that Rockstar gets 10$ per sale of The Lost and Damned, you would need at least 5 million ppl with GTA4 on PS3, all of which would buy the DLC.

But I can't seem to find those numbers. It might be that Rockstar ends up losing money in the long run, depending.
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Darrisbob1
02/18/09

@Laho:

I think it sold a little better on PS3 when it first came out, but used sales of the 360 version are up because of this DLC. Well, used and some new, I'm sure.
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LllusionX Mailed the Fission
02/18/09

@Laho: i heard it sold a lot more on the PS3. even with the money bribe(lol) they couldve made a ps3 exclusive one anyway.
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mind in rewind
02/18/09

@Darrisbob1 got disemvoweled once :(: When it came out, in the US, the 360 version outsold the PS3 version 2:1.

@Lllusionx: In 2008, the Xbox 360 version sold in excess of 3.29 million, while the PlayStation 3 version sold in excess of 1.89 million for a combined 5.18 million copies in 2008 in the US.

Good sales data for the rest of the world is hard to come by, but it's sold roughly 10 million copies. No idea how the platforms split, but I imagine the ratio is similar to the user base ratio, ie: more copies sold on the 360, because more people own a 360.

@Laho: The DLC is pure profit, for both MS and Rockstar. The $50 million was a loan. Also keep in mind that the game made $400 million in it's first week.

@Snacky_Smores: Yes, they could have. Unfortunately, the DLC was financed by Microsoft, so that's not possible.
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CowLion
02/18/09

In reply to Frankenreview: Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost And The Damned
None of these reviews seem to touch on whether or not the missions are the same shtick again... like GTA4 was. I just finished GTA4 for a second, more thorough time a month ago and I'm honestly not looking forward to playing more of the same, uninteresting, repetitive missions again and again.
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peAr nectAr
02/18/09

@CowLion: From the 1UP review:

"For the first-half of this expansion, you do ordinary errands: go here, deliver that, and steal this. Missions start to feel repetitive and lack innovation; an issue the series has struggled with throughout its history. Nine times out of ten they end in a familiar firefight or car chase."

That isn't even from the whole review; that's from the blurb that Kotaku chose to put on here.

Sounds repetitive.
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DugDawg
02/19/09

@peAr nectAr: It's still way less repetitive than Assassin's Creed, I can tell you that much.
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killah101
02/18/09

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PS3 owners really have to stop whining. THIS is business. If Sony was in a position to fork over 50mil for DLC they may have done the same thing. Blame Sony's CEOs who decided it wasn't worth the investment.
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okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
02/18/09

@killah101: I don't think anyone's whining here (yet?).
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Maxyboy13
02/18/09

@killah101:

Irony at its finest.

You are whining to stop whining which incidentally has not been in these comments yet.

Does saying that make you feel better?

If it does, then I really feel for you man.
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cyruss
02/18/09

@okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under): yeh he was being way too pre-emptive :P

anyway i have a ps3, wish i could get the DLC but i can't... i'm mildly confident the DLC will come to PS3 eventually, if not delayed, then we will future packs.. "exclusive" doesn't mean much these days, only means delayed release on other consoles

Sony had GTA San Andreas exclusive to PS2 when it came out, that only lasted several months... so same may happen here, maybe not *shrug* they'd be foolish not to try and cash in with DLC for PS3 owners too, i'd be willing to buy it
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Grocerystorecan
02/18/09

@killah101:

I couldn't give a flying toe about anything GTA related. Btw, whining about whining makes you look bad.
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mr-crowley
02/18/09

@cyruss: on the back of the L&D box, it says microsoft. it's funded and published by them, so you won't ever see this on the pstriple
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LllusionX Mailed the Fission
02/18/09

@killah101: lol, nobody was whining. XD

/EPIC Fail
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LllusionX Mailed the Fission
02/18/09

@Grocerystorecan: ...Wawt? hmm, never hear that analogy, but is'awl good!
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LllusionX Mailed the Fission
02/18/09

@mr-crowley: there's a box for lost and damned?!?!? why wasnt i informed?
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mind in rewind
02/18/09

@Lllusionx: Actually, there is. Check your local Gamestop.
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gercorr
02/18/09

In reply to Frankenreview: Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost And The Damned
Eh, i'm kinda fed up of GTA4 now. It was great at the time though
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Abel_Prisc
02/18/09

@gercorr: a great time? what, one year ago? Wow, some people get tired of games quickly. And here I'm still playing PC games over 10 years old.
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LucasReis
02/18/09

@Abel_Prisc: I still play Mega Drive regularly lol hehehehe
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litrock
02/18/09

In reply to Frankenreview: Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost And The Damned
Just shipped my 360 off on monday, was getting graphics errors that looked like the GPU going out and figured I'd jump the gun. Very sad about not being able to play this right now.
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Milkzhakes
02/18/09

@litrock: every now and then when i play in gta iv the city wont load up and i'll be driving on grey, then on left 4 dead (this happen last night) some of scenery wasn't displaying right, shit im hoping i dont get anything but i might send it in if this keeps up.
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litrock
02/18/09

@Milkzhakes: It wasn't a load error, it was green pixels and discolorations and lines and crap all over the screen. It was very, very obvious that something was WRONG.
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DugDawg
02/19/09

@litrock: Funny, the same thing just happened to my Xbox. My screen started to go green, then red, then green again. Everything started to turn bright fluorescent green. Very weird. So yeah, I'm sending mine in, too.
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Sullyville
02/18/09

In reply to Frankenreview: Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost And The Damned
I just DL'd it last night.
I loved GTA4 and I trust these fuckers
for a good time.
The only thing I don't like is
the film grain they put on everything.
It's a little like Mass Effect's grain.
I'm going to check if I can turn it off
when I get home.
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Gorilla Snow is Maximum Risky
02/18/09

@Sullyville: *sniff* That poem was beautiful man.
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okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
02/18/09

@Gorilla Snow is hot for Snorlax: I know huh!! His python diameter style masterful.
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Altima NEO
02/18/09

@Sullyville: I noticed the film grain too and I wasnt sure if the game had that in the first place
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f33l
02/18/09

@Sullyville: noticed this aswell today, damn it looks alot better now
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Stymie99
02/18/09

@f33l:
I tried turning off the noise filter, did not notice right away that it made much difference.

I can't remember though from the original, it seems like all the color is kind of washed out on mine. Almost like a black and white kind of a view, except all kind of a "streetlight yellow" / amber kind of tint to everything.

Is this just me? My tv is working just fine...
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Jippon
02/19/09

@Stymie99: If you put saturation to the max, that should bring back some colours.
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KillerBee
02/17/09

In reply to GTAIV: The Lost And The Damned Is Out
I traded in GTAIV a long time ago. I was bored to tears by the time I started doing quests for Dwayne. I didn't even bother finishing the game because every time I'd start playing, I'd realize that I had to drive 30 minutes to do a mission that took 30 seconds only to drive 30 minutes back to where I started to do the same thing all over again. I'm sorry, but I'd like to do more than one mission an hour.

Saints Row 2 was much more entertaining for me.
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radster
02/17/09

@KillerBee: didnt figure out how the taxi's worked i guess...
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Orionsaint
02/17/09

@radster:

Yeah he wasn't smart enough to figure it out. BUUURN!!!
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KillerBee
02/17/09

@Orionsaint: I know right. I R DUM.

Seriously though Radster, what is the point of an open world game if all you do is spend time in taxis. Of course I figured them out, but driving around the city should be awesome, not a chore. I obviously figured it out and used them, but then I wasn't playing the game at all, just warping and doing missions that were all easy as hell and boring.

Also, taking chicks out on dates or playing darts with your cousin was so lame. I understand it was sort of optional, but leave me the fuck alone about it already. I am not hanging out with you.
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Bumbuliuz
02/17/09

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Not Available for you location. I was not a happy camper after buyin ms points card and trying to buy the Dlc. Why cant I give you my money MS, just because I live in a non-Xbox Live country?
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LucasReis
02/17/09

@Bumbuliuz: Even if you have a fake american address registered and you don't tell them in your profile where you live they still won't let you redeem the code?
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Bumbuliuz
02/17/09

@lucasreis:

Makes no diffrence, I have point but cannot buy the DLC.
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LucasReis
02/17/09

@Bumbuliuz: Dude, f*** my life! I was all over this version of GTAIV because of the extra stuff and I got screwed. Stupid Microsoft! Thank god I didn´t buy points...
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Paradox me
02/17/09

In reply to GTAIV: The Lost And The Damned Is Out
I was not a fan of GTA IV, but dammit if this DLC doesn't have me interested. I think it might be the lack of Niko.

Money towards SF4 or this. Hmmm.
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gannon16
02/17/09

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I only have the PS3 version. I might buy the 360 version if I can find it for around €20-€30. I'll probably just watch someone play through it on youtube.
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NeVeRMoRe666
02/17/09

@gannon16: That sounds incredibly sad...

:(
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