Wow they are pretty ambitious about all of this. But besides the PSP and PS3 what other super popular electronic devices do they that are as popular as say a kindle or Ipod. Perhaps by doing this the can get into the portable music device and e-reader market and be little stronger than the Milo was.
I think its a good idea all-in-all. I wouldn't mind my PSP being an E-reader and my main portable music player. But some gamers just don't have interest in that and non-gamers just don't have interest in PSP's.
They need to come up with some killer devices besides Vaio, PS3, and PSP that can compete with your Ipods, Iphones, and Kindles.
A little off-topic but I've been thinking about this for a bit and I think all PSN needs to do now to be truly "competitive" with Live is to include a standard headset with every system sold. It probably wouldn't cost them that much and it would get rid of the problem of having ghost towns in their game or others dominated by one or two players with headsets- especially in games that require teamwork. Granted, you would gain the same problems as live, but in my opinion, I vastly enjoy feeling like I'm playing with real people than just smarter A.I. Plus, it would be nice to have the option; you can always mute people if you like.
@NeVeRMoRe666: I don't know, I'm kind of glad every 13 year-old can't talk to me online. I've been on Live, and it is really sad how bad it is sometimes. I know you can mute players, but its still...
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And since Sony doesn't have a unified network like Live, it would be really hard to mute players in games where you don't have the option.
"33 million registered users" of which 5 million are probably alternate accounts who have registered other PSN accounts to download things off different PS Stores.
@Ackers thanks Brian Ashcraft: As a PlayStation fan--I do have to say that is an interesting point, seeing how my bro and I EACH have an American, Japanese and British account LOL! The Brit account was just to get the Killzone 2 demo before it was publicly released in America (why should you have to reserve a game to get the damn demo?????) and the Japanese one was for Mainichi Isshyo---yay for free Japanese trophies!
@Ackers thanks Brian Ashcraft: That would be awesome! I'm incredibly bummed with the mexican PSN store... at least give the whole continent the same content and updates!
I think one of their biggest challenges will be branding, especially since they're trying to expand the scope of one service (the PlayStation Network) to encompass many other services.
So will the PlayStation Network become the Sony Online Service? Or will ebook users be logging onto the PlayStation Network? Or will they all be using the same service, except it will have a different name?
The current King of Misbranding is certainly Microsoft. Their horribly schizophrenic marketing campaigns aside, take the recent Live update. The video marketplace is now the Zune marketplace, except it's still called the video marketplace on the main page. In addition, users have come to understand that 'Zune' refers to Microsoft's version of the iPod, but Microsoft is attempting to change that understanding by branding the entire video marketplace with that title.
Which is very, very, very confusing.
The questions might go: Isn't the Zune marketplace only for people with Zunes? Why is Microsoft forcing Zune down my throat when I was happy with the same old video marketplace? So is the video marketplace separate from the Zune marketplace now? So I'm in the Zune marketplace: where do I order my Zune?
The end result of all of this is annoyed consumers who begin ignoring any service that isn't completely clear to them. Granted, the majority of the readers here are savvy enough to parse out what means what exactly, but 90% of consumers have neither the time nor the inclination to spend 15 minutes figuring out branding idiosyncrasies.
Sony should learn from Microsoft's continual failures in this area and lock down their branding from the get go. If they do that, they'll have a definite leg up.
@Wolfnave: I think, and hope, that they will keep the PSN moniker for whatever they expand the service to, especially if they want the Playstation brand to be more synonymous with various services be it video, music, games, or what have you.
It would be a great selling point to people buying a Bravia to say that you can get the offerings of the Playstation Network without a PS3. Make the store accessible from the XMB on the Bravia and include the movie store, hopefully a music store, and make it even more awesome by having games (d/l only titles) go directly to your TV.
Sell controllers with the TV and you are good to go, shit I'd buy one. Of course it would be more awesome to have a TV that could get games from the marketplace of each current system, but that's too fucking sweet to even dream about.
@Wolfnave: First off, this has nothing to do with the article at hand.
But the Zune marketplace is completely separate from the microsoft video service. Zune marketplance, while similar, allows for 1080p streaming to your xbox. max on previous option was 720. also this buffers and detects your connection to allow the best possible image on your connection.
They are shoving Zune down your throat because this service A) was originally for zunes B) corporate branding is always key and C) they own the name, its not working for selling their mp3 player, so why not put it to use somewhere else?
You are annoyed with the situation because you did no research to find what it was and how it worked. Microsoft cannot be blamed for your ignorance in this area.
To sum this all up, thanks for comin out, and perhaps take some time to read kotaku posts relating to the zune marketplace. yeah, they are on the exact site you are commenting on...smart.
Based from an earlier slide, Sony hinted that they will encapsulate premium services in PSN. While online play will still be free ([n4g.com]), there will be some aspects of the service which will be accessible based on subscription.
I was just looking at the slide posted in this article, and it looks like non-PlayStation devices are confirmed to be able to access PSN. Sony has built a huge distribution network, and they may as well allow their products to access it via subscription.
@Save me: That's exactly what this says mate. "I was just looking at the slide posted in this article, and it seems that it hints at other, non-PlayStation devices being able to access PSN." You didn't need to go all Sherlock on Sony.
This is a fine idea, now Sony needs some fine products that don't cost more than everything else out there.
Yes, another reason to turn your Wii on every day, along with all of those other perfectly valid reasons, which I am sure will strike me any moment now.
Because...y'know, it's not like it plays video games or anything.
I wish Kotaku's writers didn't troll the Wii so much. If you guys don't like it, that's fine, but making fun of it on a daily basis has gotten kind of old. #bbciplayerwiichannel
@spiderweb1986: Ah its not that bad, nothing to what you see in the average Wii article thread on Kotaku. But I agree it got old a while ago #bbciplayerwiichannel
And this probably explains why it broke accessing it through the Wii browser.
Now If only they gave PS3 it's own app rather than a hard coded bookmark.
Cos the desktop Iplayer on PS3 would be amazingly useful. #bbciplayerwiichannel
@Jetsetharrison: Hasn't 4OD moved to a browser based thing now?
So surely you should be able to get to it on PS3. Same with SkyPlayer.
Though not really tried either.
let's try it now
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Skyplayer needs Silverlight.
4OD just doesn't work. no idea why. it just doesn't.
I've been seeing these for a couple of weeks now. I seriously think they're going to give me nightmares. It's just way too creepy and life like for me. #assassinscreedii
@Xtrit: Well, I think the design of Altair, technically, came first. But since the Altair seen in the animus and therefore the game is Desmond then yeah... PEDANT! #assassinscreedii
@BallPtPenTheif: I would argue that there are few better times to assassinate someone as you aren't really aware of their surroundings at that most precious moment. #assassinscreedii
@BallPtPenTheif: True that. I heard he was in the original ad, but they had to remove him because they couldn't clear the rights for "Need You Tonight." Just a rumor, though. #assassinscreedii
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I think its a good idea all-in-all. I wouldn't mind my PSP being an E-reader and my main portable music player. But some gamers just don't have interest in that and non-gamers just don't have interest in PSP's.
They need to come up with some killer devices besides Vaio, PS3, and PSP that can compete with your Ipods, Iphones, and Kindles.
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And since Sony doesn't have a unified network like Live, it would be really hard to mute players in games where you don't have the option.
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XD
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#speakup
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but.. i also have a jp acct on xbox live for the bayonetta demo.
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So will the PlayStation Network become the Sony Online Service? Or will ebook users be logging onto the PlayStation Network? Or will they all be using the same service, except it will have a different name?
The current King of Misbranding is certainly Microsoft. Their horribly schizophrenic marketing campaigns aside, take the recent Live update. The video marketplace is now the Zune marketplace, except it's still called the video marketplace on the main page. In addition, users have come to understand that 'Zune' refers to Microsoft's version of the iPod, but Microsoft is attempting to change that understanding by branding the entire video marketplace with that title.
Which is very, very, very confusing.
The questions might go: Isn't the Zune marketplace only for people with Zunes? Why is Microsoft forcing Zune down my throat when I was happy with the same old video marketplace? So is the video marketplace separate from the Zune marketplace now? So I'm in the Zune marketplace: where do I order my Zune?
The end result of all of this is annoyed consumers who begin ignoring any service that isn't completely clear to them. Granted, the majority of the readers here are savvy enough to parse out what means what exactly, but 90% of consumers have neither the time nor the inclination to spend 15 minutes figuring out branding idiosyncrasies.
Sony should learn from Microsoft's continual failures in this area and lock down their branding from the get go. If they do that, they'll have a definite leg up.
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Deffo agree with you on Microsoft's branding. They might be offering some great stuff, but it's all too ambiguously connected.
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It would be a great selling point to people buying a Bravia to say that you can get the offerings of the Playstation Network without a PS3. Make the store accessible from the XMB on the Bravia and include the movie store, hopefully a music store, and make it even more awesome by having games (d/l only titles) go directly to your TV.
Sell controllers with the TV and you are good to go, shit I'd buy one. Of course it would be more awesome to have a TV that could get games from the marketplace of each current system, but that's too fucking sweet to even dream about.
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But the Zune marketplace is completely separate from the microsoft video service. Zune marketplance, while similar, allows for 1080p streaming to your xbox. max on previous option was 720. also this buffers and detects your connection to allow the best possible image on your connection.
They are shoving Zune down your throat because this service A) was originally for zunes B) corporate branding is always key and C) they own the name, its not working for selling their mp3 player, so why not put it to use somewhere else?
You are annoyed with the situation because you did no research to find what it was and how it worked. Microsoft cannot be blamed for your ignorance in this area.
To sum this all up, thanks for comin out, and perhaps take some time to read kotaku posts relating to the zune marketplace. yeah, they are on the exact site you are commenting on...smart.
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So, to sum this all up, thanks for comin out, and perhaps take some to read a comment thoroughly before responding.... smart.
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Based from an earlier slide, Sony hinted that they will encapsulate premium services in PSN. While online play will still be free ([n4g.com]), there will be some aspects of the service which will be accessible based on subscription.
I was just looking at the slide posted in this article, and it looks like non-PlayStation devices are confirmed to be able to access PSN. Sony has built a huge distribution network, and they may as well allow their products to access it via subscription.
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This is a fine idea, now Sony needs some fine products that don't cost more than everything else out there.
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I'm trying to highlight the fact that when Sony announced premium services, they did not mean that PSN would be P2P.
At least I hope not.
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Where and what says that? In regards to?
#speakup
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Pay to play.
#speakup
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#speakup
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Must go watch some Mighty Boosh! #bbciplayerwiichannel
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Because...y'know, it's not like it plays video games or anything.
I wish Kotaku's writers didn't troll the Wii so much. If you guys don't like it, that's fine, but making fun of it on a daily basis has gotten kind of old. #bbciplayerwiichannel
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Now If only they gave PS3 it's own app rather than a hard coded bookmark.
Cos the desktop Iplayer on PS3 would be amazingly useful. #bbciplayerwiichannel
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So surely you should be able to get to it on PS3. Same with SkyPlayer.
Though not really tried either.
let's try it now
Edit:
Skyplayer needs Silverlight.
4OD just doesn't work. no idea why. it just doesn't.
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Could be him. #assassinscreedii
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Yeah but this guy has actual hair really cool hair . #assassinscreedii
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I was just stating a fact.
Really cool hair :) #assassinscreedii
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(Now who's the pedant?...) #assassinscreedii
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Let me show you my O-Face! #assassinscreedii
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