Enough with the Pearl Jam. For that matter, enough with the Freezepop. Harmonix obviously loves these guys, but maybe the rest of us don't -- or do, but still want some more diversity in our DLC.
I got nothing against Pearl Jam and all, I like a lot of their stuff, but it's kind of annoying to see them get yet another album to download while some bands that you would have expected a showing from by now still aren't in.
Don't mind me, I'm just in a sulk because Rock Band doesn't have any Sublime or Primus yet.
@Mentuss: This is a legit point, some bands that really are good are just getting overrepresented (Foo Fighters, PJ) while a lot of good, similar-ish bands that I thought I'd have seen by now (Deftones, Chevelle, more Alice in Chains, etc.) are notably absent.
@Mentuss: On the bright side (for me, anyway), if PJ is getting a second DLC album, maybe RHCP will as well. I know that the store is chock full o' them already, but I'd kill for one of their later albums.
But beside that, I agree. I'd love to see Type O Negative get one in. It'd be boring for the drummer, but the vocalists trying to roll their Rs without sounding like a motorboat should keep the whole room entertained. :D
@Marker: The Lead Designer one said during a presentation that they've contacted pretty much every band that everyone's thought of. So if you're favorite band doesn't have enough songs in the game, it's probably because they haven't given Harmonix enough songs. People like Grohl and Pearl Jam are super-forthcoming with their songs, so they get a lot of them released.
@KaneRobot: The DLC is not the only thing that comes with the album. It's a $30 special edition similiar to the Deluxe Edition of Ten a while back that contained the Bonus 3-pack of songs.
Can I say this machine shoulda debuted even lower. 179.99.
It's less powerful and has less features than the original xbox which came out 5 years prior. Wii added one new element, motion control, and that one feature alone woulda made all the missing ones irrelevant, BUT THEY UNDER DELIEVERED IN THIS AREA AS WELL.
I appreciate the push for a new way to play games, but they marketed and gimmicked their way up the sales charts until the release of the Motion Plus add on which has only somewhat justified this consoles existence.
Sega should still be making hardware, and Nintendo the one simply selling mascot games.
Man, Nintendo has done a lot of things pretty right in this generation. Their pricing, marketing and overall sales strategy is really well thought out.
Of course, they expanded and "casualized" the market to a great deal, which led to serious controversy amond a lot of veteran -, hardcore - or how you want to call them gamers, BUT IMHO it turned out less bad than everyone is whining about.
Take a close look and you will find a lot of good games for the Wii.
Even how they approached the NEW GENERATION from an technical/strategy-wise point of view was pretty smart IMHO (eventhough I myself wished they did it a little different).
What I'm talking about is the fact, that the Wii turned out to be "underpowered" for this generation (though made A LOT up for it with INNOVATION).
So one could ask himself WHY Nintendo didn't come out with a much "stronger" hardware in the first place.
I guess it's because they A) realized they couldn't make the wii available for 250$ with BOTH multiple GHZ prozessors AND motion-technologie back then, and B) another guess of mine, they kinda wanted to TEST THE WATERS with an inexpensive hardware-structure because they didn't know for sure how WELL their motion-sensing technologie would catch on with customers.
Certainly, Nintendo was brave enough to not follow the usual "road maps" during development (like Sony and Msoft did), but didn't want to risk too much (bear in mind that the Gamecube was last last generation).
So yeah, now that Sony has launched a cheaper, smaller "slimline" ps3 and Microsoft also cut their price, Nintendo is going to reduce the Wii to 199 to be prepared of this Christmas. And they will sell as good as always.
Then 2011 at E3 (my speculation) they will anounce the Wii's successor and again have the chnace to get ahead of their competion, since their experiment (the motion technology) slightly turnd out better than Sonys and Microsofts 10 year life-span plan.
I also believe that during the next 2 years' the Wii will see a lot more BLOCKBUSTER games before big N takes off into the next-next generation.
Just like the difference between cheapest PS3 and PSPGo, the difference between Wii and DSi seems out of whack. I don't know why, but it always seems like the less powerful portables should be considerably less by comparison.
@lionkitten: I'm not sure about this, but I would guess the costs of LCD's, batteries and wifi chips(also now cameras and bluetooth) may play a factor to why portables don't drop in price faster.
I couldn't really tell you though, my best guess is that the ds sells like mad with it's current price, whats the point in losing money?
@sereal: Smaller things always cost more. It's just like computers, you can get a desktop that's got the same specs as a laptop and the desktop will always cost quite a bit less.
@SayeedaCeyx: Right; that's why it constantly sold out. Maybe they should have launched at $600 like Sony. Then they would have looked cool instead of like asshats, right?
Then the Wii isn't for you. Others might play it more than their other consoles. Just because "You" would only play it a few times a year doesn't mean it isn't worth 200 bucks. You aren't the only person in the world.
@RaptureScientist: If you'd only power it on a few times a year, you have pretty bad tastes in games. I don't care who you are, there is plenty to find and people are so stuck in your way of thinking that they've become totally blind to some of the best games of this generation.
@randomrawr: Calm down, RaptureScientist clearly wrote "too much for me". Nowhere did they say the Wii wasn't worth $200 in general. No need to jump down anyone's throat, here...
@Ueziel: Just because you're a Wii fanboy it doesn't give you a license to be a tool, a douche, a smartass, a jackass, a pisshead or combination on those.
Respect other's opinion. Plus, I don't agree with yours anyway. Best games of this generation? Are you kidding me? Lol
@HobbaHobba: Yeah man such a faaaaanboy. I'm only playing The Darkness on my 360, awaiting Batman: Arkham Asylum, probably own twice as many 360 games as I do Wii games, am looking into buying a PS3 Slim, charging my PSP and regularly play PS2 games. Yeah, man, I'm the biggest Wii fanboy there is. Jesus Christ.
No. I like good games. Wherever and whenever I find them.
@Hey_Blinkon: Yeah ya got me. I'm a fanboy of good games.
Being positive about gaming is not a bad thing. It's pretty laughable that people are actually whining and bitching that I'm being very positive about there being games on everything and that there is a 100% chance of people enjoying games on every system and that they are worth owning. I stick up for the Wii just as much as I stick up for my PSP or my 360 or any other system I own.
The biggest tell on who you should listen to these days is based almost entirely on whether or not they jump straight to calling someone a fanboy for saying there's something good on a system. It's exactly the same as the "comparing to Hitler" argument.
@Ueziel: Nobody's denying that there's good games on the Wii. The question is, are there enough games on it that appeal to A SPECIFIC person so that the person in question should take a plunge and buy the system?
That's where experiences differ. Not because they think there's zero games or none that appeal to a person, but because the games that are on the system aren't desirable ENOUGH to buy a console.
It's a matter of preference and a matter of taste. Saying the Wii is for everyone is ignorant at best.
@Ueziel: You're positive about gaming, but you're often very negative to others who disagree with you in the slightest. Often that is concerning the Wii. This is what makes you end up being labeled a fanboy. If you turned down the vitriol and insulting language, people would just think you were a fan of good games.
Saying someone is "stupid" because they don't enjoy a specific game, or needs to have their preferences changed because they don't think something merits the money is, well, stupid.
@Hey_Blinkon: I never said anyone was stupid. I said they were misinformed. Willfully misinformed, but misinformed nonetheless.
There's no "vitriol" here until you guys all started jumping on the ol' fanboy bandwagon.
I will honestly say though that yes, I am very very tired of reading "Oh I'll only turn it on once or twice a year." or "it just gathers dust." It's basically a bunch of people spouting off memes and they've turned it into their own reality.
It goes the same way with the PSP. For the longest time, all you saw was "blah blah there's nothing on it. Sony should get the AAAAAAA material over here blah blah" when it was pretty obvious that there was indeed a ton to choose from.
People do need their preferences challenged though. Nearly everyone here does, 100%.
Consoles just drop in price with time. Why is this so hard for people to understand? Companies have been doing this ever sense the freaking Atari 2600.
@wtf_G: Oddly enough a lot of people have been asking about price drops on the WIi at this point. The system has been out long enough with no cut of any kind that Nintendo has kinda saturated the market for the $250 price point. Silly as it seems to us, I wouldn't be surprised if a $50 drop got a lot more people to pick one up.
@wtf_G: Let me get this straight, what you're saying is that if no one owns a Wii by now, it's pretty clear they aren't waiting for a pay cut?
I don't own a PSP after how long? but if they made a price cut you better believe I'd consider it. A $50-$100 price cut means a lot to some people, a difference maker you might say.
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This, if the leak was any indication, is not one of them. But then again, I never really cared for Pearl Jam so obviously YMMV.
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Pantera, for example.
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Don't mind me, I'm just in a sulk because Rock Band doesn't have any Sublime or Primus yet.
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Quite possible they just can't wring songs out of some of these labels.
Has anyone ever tried to correlate the bands that are in with the labels they are on? Might be some studios are just easier to get songs out of.
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But beside that, I agree. I'd love to see Type O Negative get one in. It'd be boring for the drummer, but the vocalists trying to roll their Rs without sounding like a motorboat should keep the whole room entertained. :D
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Type O is easily my most wanted band in RB. I don't even think the drums would be boring, especially if it's stuff from Dead Again.
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It's less powerful and has less features than the original xbox which came out 5 years prior. Wii added one new element, motion control, and that one feature alone woulda made all the missing ones irrelevant, BUT THEY UNDER DELIEVERED IN THIS AREA AS WELL.
I appreciate the push for a new way to play games, but they marketed and gimmicked their way up the sales charts until the release of the Motion Plus add on which has only somewhat justified this consoles existence.
Sega should still be making hardware, and Nintendo the one simply selling mascot games.
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Of course, they expanded and "casualized" the market to a great deal, which led to serious controversy amond a lot of veteran -, hardcore - or how you want to call them gamers, BUT IMHO it turned out less bad than everyone is whining about.
Take a close look and you will find a lot of good games for the Wii.
Even how they approached the NEW GENERATION from an technical/strategy-wise point of view was pretty smart IMHO (eventhough I myself wished they did it a little different).
What I'm talking about is the fact, that the Wii turned out to be "underpowered" for this generation (though made A LOT up for it with INNOVATION).
So one could ask himself WHY Nintendo didn't come out with a much "stronger" hardware in the first place.
I guess it's because they A) realized they couldn't make the wii available for 250$ with BOTH multiple GHZ prozessors AND motion-technologie back then, and B) another guess of mine, they kinda wanted to TEST THE WATERS with an inexpensive hardware-structure because they didn't know for sure how WELL their motion-sensing technologie would catch on with customers.
Certainly, Nintendo was brave enough to not follow the usual "road maps" during development (like Sony and Msoft did), but didn't want to risk too much (bear in mind that the Gamecube was last last generation).
So yeah, now that Sony has launched a cheaper, smaller "slimline" ps3 and Microsoft also cut their price, Nintendo is going to reduce the Wii to 199 to be prepared of this Christmas. And they will sell as good as always.
Then 2011 at E3 (my speculation) they will anounce the Wii's successor and again have the chnace to get ahead of their competion, since their experiment (the motion technology) slightly turnd out better than Sonys and Microsofts 10 year life-span plan.
I also believe that during the next 2 years' the Wii will see a lot more BLOCKBUSTER games before big N takes off into the next-next generation.
Gahhh... sorry for that much text!
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Unfortunately just have spent 2 grand on a Vaio, Slim and a PSP, I should probably wait. My head is still spinning from that.
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I also really would like to get Madworld and The Conduit, regardless of all the haters.
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Maybe if you didn't buy one of the most overpriced laptop brands on the market you'd still have money left to buy a Wii.
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This laptop is balls-deep, brother.
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A. I said the brand is overpriced. I said nothing about your model specifically.
B. You spent $2000 on a vaio. I have a rough estimate of the crap which you purchased.
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It was $1209, to be precise. The rest was PS3/PSP related.
For fuck sake, who cares. Troll elsewhere please. I'm done.
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I couldn't really tell you though, my best guess is that the ds sells like mad with it's current price, whats the point in losing money?
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Then the Wii isn't for you. Others might play it more than their other consoles. Just because "You" would only play it a few times a year doesn't mean it isn't worth 200 bucks. You aren't the only person in the world.
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Respect other's opinion. Plus, I don't agree with yours anyway. Best games of this generation? Are you kidding me? Lol
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No. I like good games. Wherever and whenever I find them.
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Being positive about gaming is not a bad thing. It's pretty laughable that people are actually whining and bitching that I'm being very positive about there being games on everything and that there is a 100% chance of people enjoying games on every system and that they are worth owning. I stick up for the Wii just as much as I stick up for my PSP or my 360 or any other system I own.
The biggest tell on who you should listen to these days is based almost entirely on whether or not they jump straight to calling someone a fanboy for saying there's something good on a system. It's exactly the same as the "comparing to Hitler" argument.
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That's where experiences differ. Not because they think there's zero games or none that appeal to a person, but because the games that are on the system aren't desirable ENOUGH to buy a console.
It's a matter of preference and a matter of taste. Saying the Wii is for everyone is ignorant at best.
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Saying someone is "stupid" because they don't enjoy a specific game, or needs to have their preferences changed because they don't think something merits the money is, well, stupid.
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There's no "vitriol" here until you guys all started jumping on the ol' fanboy bandwagon.
I will honestly say though that yes, I am very very tired of reading "Oh I'll only turn it on once or twice a year." or "it just gathers dust." It's basically a bunch of people spouting off memes and they've turned it into their own reality.
It goes the same way with the PSP. For the longest time, all you saw was "blah blah there's nothing on it. Sony should get the AAAAAAA material over here blah blah" when it was pretty obvious that there was indeed a ton to choose from.
People do need their preferences challenged though. Nearly everyone here does, 100%.
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Not sure what this'll achieve.
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Consoles just drop in price with time. Why is this so hard for people to understand? Companies have been doing this ever sense the freaking Atari 2600.
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I don't own a PSP after how long? but if they made a price cut you better believe I'd consider it. A $50-$100 price cut means a lot to some people, a difference maker you might say.