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    Image of Bouchart Bouchart
    04:14 PM

    In reply to Take-Two: Retail Stores Will Be Here For Awhile
    Retail stores certainly will certainly stick around. My local mall could get away with closing one of the two Gamestops, though. #taketwo
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    Image of Sarcasmancer Sarcasmancer
    04:05 PM

    In reply to Take-Two: Retail Stores Will Be Here For Awhile
    Brick and mortar shops will stick around for a long time and over all, I think that's a good thing. Options are always a good thing, and owning physical library of landmark titles makes me feel fuzzy inside.

    That being typed, I hope they start giving more for trade-ins and that the obnoxious 'pre-order bonus' trend dies a painful death in a dark ditch. I know it's just wishful bitching, since pre-orders are likely helping retailers stay afloat, but I don't like being punished for being a prudent shopper. #taketwo
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    Image of badasscat badasscat
    03:40 PM

    In reply to Take-Two: Retail Stores Will Be Here For Awhile
    Then there are those of us - admittedly, probably mostly old curmudgeonly geezers - who just will not actually pay real money for fake products. I'm not paying money for a bunch of bits in the air somewhere. I pay money for stuff that I can hold in my hand. These things are things that I then own and can use as I see fit, now or at any time in the future. (I know, I pay for stuff like cable TV, but that's a service. Games are not a service, they're a product. Would you, for example, buy a car as a digital download? To me, it's the same thing.)

    I think this is the biggest obstacle to retail going away, quite honestly. Because think about it. Let's say 10 years ago that 100% of gamers bought games at retail. Now let's say that 70% of those people will someday switch to downloading, and 30% of people will be resistant for one reason or another. It's pretty simple math to figure out that somebody's gonna lose out on this deal. You can't switch distribution mediums and lose a bunch of customers in the process and make *more* money.

    Or at least, most companies can't - certain middlemen and other people in the process might make more money, and they're the ones promoting the switch to digital downloading. (This includes the console manufacturers, btw, who want to be the new middlemen in the process of getting games from third party devs to you). But overall, the industry as a whole will lose.

    And btw, the music industry already learned/is learning this.
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    Edited by badasscat at 11/12/09 3:45 PM badasscat was starred badasscat was unstarred
    Image of kearneybobs kearneybobs
    03:26 PM

    In reply to Take-Two: Retail Stores Will Be Here For Awhile
    Part of the reason that physical media will be here for a good while is the nonsensicle pricing structure that digital downloads are being sold at. It is blatantly obvious that the digital distribution avenue is the cheaper of them all, yet the consumer isn't being passed on these benifits in digital distribution. In fact, most of the time, the digital version of the product is often dearer than the physical media. Except when the odd deal here and there.
    I understand that there are agreements that have been made and fears about the digital version undercutting the brick and mortar stores. But this is an aspect that i think needs an overhaul for the digital distribution model to become adopted by EVERYONE. #taketwo
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    Image of SqueakyPlatypus SqueakyPlatypus
    03:28 PM

    @kearneybobs: I agree. The only times I buy things digitally are when there's no physical copy I can buy, or if there's a good deal going around, the that $5 games thing Direct2Drive had going on a couple months ago. #taketwo
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    Image of Wolfnave Wolfnave
    03:33 PM

    @kearneybobs: Bingo. Sell me a digital copy for $10-$15 less than a physical one and I will SERIOUSLY consider purchasing that instead. #taketwo
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    Image of kearneybobs kearneybobs
    03:45 PM

    @Wolfnave: Make it €5 whatever.... and we have a deal.
    Honestly. Even price parity between the different versions would be inscentive enough to think about buying the digital version, but under the current pricing structure, I can see it being adopted for some time to come. #taketwo
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    Image of Squiffy Squiffy
    03:20 PM

    In reply to Take-Two: Retail Stores Will Be Here For Awhile
    There are way too many benefits of physical ownership to ever completely migrate to digital ownership in my heart.

    1) Value - A digital copy of a game in most modern cases becomes worthless once it's purchased. It can't be resold or traded. I'm sure that has the potential to change in the future, though.

    2) Collections - I much prefer having a shelf full of boxes to showcase my game collection to loading up 5 different PC programs/consoles to see what I own.

    3) Borrowing - Ever since I was a kid, I've been a fan of swapping games with a friend for a little bit to try games I wouldn't have necessarily spent money renting/buying before while showing off a game I love to them. In the current day when so many games have online play, this is a great benefit. I leant my friend my copy of Borderlands (which he didn't buy because he didn't like the art style) and he loved it, and he's going out to buy it to play with me soon.

    4) Vanishing Act - Say I buy 30 games on Steam. But my hard drive doesn't have room for them all, so I delete them time to time to make room. Then in 5 years Steam dies (which I doubt, but it could happen to any online distributor I buy a game from.) The games I bought from them that aren't currently on my hard drive are now lost in the void.

    5) Age - Similar to above, imagine 20 years from now we're on our 4th generation of Xbox/Playstation. I have a fit of nostalgia and dig out my 360. I want to play some of the old games I loved but, shucks, I can't download those old games I used to have anymore. Shame I hadn't bought a physical copy!

    6) Bandwidth - A large percentage of North Americans have no access to broadband internet. In my current situation, I only have access to dialup, as the only viable alternatives are prohibitively expensive or don't meet my needs. Cell phone company wireless has a tiny download limit, gets horrible reception in my area and isn't shareable over a network. Satellite wants a ton of money to buy hardware and about $70/month for their basic package. I'm surrounded by trees, so I don't have line of sight to the other wireless type. And even for those who do have broadband, most companies these days impose bandwidth limits. Some are reasonable, others are prohibitive to downloading anything other than email.

    Digital distribution is definitely not going away, and it's a great medium for distributing indy games that can't afford all the money and red tape required to package a game up and stick it on the shelf at EB Games, Walmart, etc.
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    Image of Curse lily Curse lily
    03:11 PM

    In reply to Take-Two: Retail Stores Will Be Here For Awhile

    Lets hope so, because i'm not a fan of digital downloads.
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    Edited by Curse lily at 11/12/09 3:13 PM Curse lily was starred Curse lily was unstarred
    Image of Koztah Koztah
    03:14 PM

    @Curse lily: And I see, as all persons who are not fans of digital games, you...live...under a large wooden bucket. Angrily.
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    Edited by Koztah at 11/12/09 3:14 PM Koztah was starred Koztah was unstarred
    Image of Curse lily Curse lily
    03:17 PM

    @Koztah: I haven't play any of the 9 games that i bought almost 3 weeks ago, so it's to be expected ^_^ #taketwo
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    Image of Koztah Koztah
    03:18 PM

    @Curse lily: This is likely because consoles and televisions don't fit in buckets. Hot tip fo' free. #taketwo
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    Image of Curse lily Curse lily
    03:20 PM

    @Koztah: Neither does an angry girlfriend (^_~) #taketwo
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    Image of spiderweb1986 spiderweb1986
    03:23 PM

    @Curse lily: I can beat that - I bought ten games a few days ago.

    To be fair, though, it was GameCrazy's last day, and they were 80% off. I think I spent about $20 total. :D

    Thanks to that purchase, though, I've got one heck of a backlog to work through. Not that I didn't already. Game sales and clearances are both blessings and curses.
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    Edited by spiderweb1986 at 11/12/09 3:23 PM spiderweb1986 was starred spiderweb1986 was unstarred
    Image of Curse lily Curse lily
    03:30 PM

    @spiderweb1986: Jeez you literally rob that store ^_^

    Yeah i'm going to be busy for a while as well...once i'm able to play again that is :Þ #taketwo
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    Image of Koztah Koztah
    03:31 PM

    @Curse lily: Angry girlfriends can be pacified with alcohol. Or cholorform. #taketwo
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    Image of Curse lily Curse lily
    03:40 PM

    @Koztah: Wine is the only alcohol she ever drinks(and beer, rarely tho) but not enough to get wasted.

    But the second option sounds pretty good (^_~) #taketwo
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    Image of Char Aznable Char Aznable
    03:53 PM

    @Curse lily: I thought it was 'accepted' ;D #taketwo
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    Image of Curse lily Curse lily
    03:59 PM

    @Char Aznable: Why not both ^_^ #taketwo
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    Image of Char Aznable Char Aznable
    04:53 PM

    @Curse lily: Oh true :o #taketwo
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    Image of Wolfnave Wolfnave
    03:08 PM

    In reply to Take-Two: Retail Stores Will Be Here For Awhile
    I agree with 'ole Ben up there, but perhaps for a different reason. I dislike the idea of digital downloads because I can't resell them.

    Say what you will about used games being bad for the industry, yada yada, but I manage to subsidize my game playing habit by selling old ones, either on Craigs List or Ebay (forget Gamestop's horrendous trade in values).

    I purchased both MW2 and L4D2 using monies earned from the resale of old games I wasn't playing anymore.

    I understand why digital downloads are attractive from a publisher's standpoint, but as a frugal consumer, I'm going to be buying the physical product for a long time to come. #taketwo
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    Image of Sith_Mafia Sith_Mafia
    03:11 PM

    @Wolfnave: goozex.com #taketwo
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    Image of sbtim sbtim
    03:13 PM

    @Wolfnave: i agree, digital downloads are too limiting.

    you cant borrow a game, resell a game, rent a game, play your game on another system...

    all the while they charge you the same price as retail......

    who really wins when it comes to digital downloads? not you. #taketwo
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    Image of Wolfnave Wolfnave
    03:14 PM

    @Sith_Mafia: And how come I've never heard of this before?

    *pulls head out from under rock* #taketwo
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    Image of SurlyDuff SurlyDuff
    03:25 PM

    @Wolfnave: Don't worry, you're not missing much. Goozex is horribly slow. You put your game in a que, if it happens to be a new game, you will get rid of it quickly. But you will be waiting a LONG time for your name to come to the front of the line if you want a similarly hot new game in return.

    I used goozex a few times, and gave up. You are much better off going the ebay/craigslist route, or trading with friends. #taketwo
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    Wolfnave promoted this comment SurlyDuff was starred SurlyDuff was unstarred
    Image of Wolfnave Wolfnave
    03:31 PM

    @SurlyDuff: Yeah, after spending a few minutes browsing the site, I realized that was probably the case. I sold my old games to get brand spankin' new ones, which wouldn't have been an option through goozex. #taketwo
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    Image of Eltigro Eltigro
    11/04/09

    In reply to PETA Doesn't Want You To Buy The Ringling Bros. Game
    Point 1 I see on many responses. Most of us didn't even know there WAS a Ringling Bro. Circus game.

    Point 2 Why hasn't PETA said anything about WoW? You know you can kill bunnies in that game?

    Point 3 It won't sell anyway unless it is an awesome remake of Big Top.
    [en.wikipedia.org] #peta
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    Image of billysan billysan
    11/04/09

    In reply to PETA Doesn't Want You To Buy The Ringling Bros. Game
    "Our investigator captured workers on video as they beat and whipped elephants dozens of times in venues across the country."

    Whose to say that the elephants didn't want to be beat. #peta
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    Image of Aipaloovik Aipaloovik
    11/04/09

    @billysan: I agree, I'd hardly think masochism is limited only to humans. #peta
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    Image of NeVeRMoRe666 NeVeRMoRe666
    11/04/09

    @Aipaloovik: That's a disturbing image.... #peta
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    Image of bobtheduck in Korea bobtheduck in Korea
    11/04/09

    In reply to PETA Doesn't Want You To Buy The Ringling Bros. Game
    I don't own a wii, but I want 3 copies of this game. Not because it will be a good game (it looks like more shovelware) but because Peta told me not to. Of course, momentary whims like that dissipate when I realize it will cost me money. Oh well. #peta
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    Image of Four--Eyes Four--Eyes
    11/04/09

    In reply to PETA Doesn't Want You To Buy The Ringling Bros. Game
    THEY ARE VIRTUAL ELEPHANTS. YOU ARE NOT REALLY AT THE CIRCUS. THERE IS NO ANIMAL ABUSE IN THE GAME. Okay? Okay. #peta
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    Image of NeVeRMoRe666 NeVeRMoRe666
    11/04/09

    @Four--Eyes: Yikes. Reading comprehension, READING COMPREHENSION!

    PETA's qualm with the game isn't about the content (I seriously doubt they would allow you to beat elements with sticks in a game rated E) but the circus itself. PETA's saying when you buy the game, you support the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus, a company they apparently have a problem with. #peta
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    Image of Four--Eyes Four--Eyes
    11/05/09

    @NeVeRMoRe666: Well, I know that. I was just basing my comment on the act that they might have a qualm with some content. Don't know what, for I have not played the game, and never plan to. #peta
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    Image of Four--Eyes Four--Eyes
    11/05/09

    @NeVeRMoRe666: Well, you aren't necessarily supporting the means of entertainment. Maybe you're just supporting the entertainment. What about those people, PETA? Huh? #peta
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    Image of NeVeRMoRe666 NeVeRMoRe666
    11/05/09

    @Four--Eyes: haha agreed. PETA sucks. #peta
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    Image of Four--Eyes Four--Eyes
    11/06/09

    I really wanted that game, too. Bummer.
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    Image of wintersault wintersault
    11/04/09

    In reply to PETA Doesn't Want You To Buy The Ringling Bros. Game
    Aren't humans animals? Shouldn't PETA be going batshit over modern warfare 2 where the player character literally slaughters hundreds of innocent humans in transit between government zoos. #peta
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    Image of TrjnRabbit TrjnRabbit
    11/04/09

    @wintersault:
    They're more worried about the dogs in World at War #peta
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    Image of Benguin Benguin
    11/04/09

    In reply to PETA Doesn't Want You To Buy The Ringling Bros. Game
    To hell with that, I pre-ordered the game solely on the premise that there would be an elephant-abuse minigame. #peta
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    11/04/09

    In reply to PETA Doesn't Want You To Buy The Ringling Bros. Game
    Who knows? Maybe PeTA is trying to save us from another crappy shovelware title!

    Think about it, they're actually doing something cooperative for once!

    But at least we know they ain't sadomasochists! #peta
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    Image of Jekku Jekku
    11/04/09

    In reply to PETA Doesn't Want You To Buy The Ringling Bros. Game
    I hate PETA. #peta
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