@NickFoote: Right. So.. say.... someone enjoys Battlezone or Wing Commander more than Crysis or MW2 and doesn't feel the need to buy unnecessary computer parts and they're suddenly not a pc gamer anymore?
@carpe_k9006: If they've only been playing games from the mid-90s on their machines, they've played every game from the period to exhaustion already. #startrekonline
Oh wow it's coming out sooner than I thought, which is kind of groovy. The requirements honestly aren't all that bad, higher than some mmos, but most of which have been out for years. And the parts under recommended have been out for at least 2 years so, not bad all things considered. #startrekonline
I was looking at the Force Unleashed game at Walmart and it was some Sith Edition. It requires 23 freaking GB's of harddrive space. Game requirements are ridiculous these days.
At least the requirements for this game seem okay. #startrekonline
My Desktop only has a 45 GB Harddrive and my laptop has a 160 GB harddrive. I didn't say it was an issue. I am just shocked as to how much space you need for games these days. I remember when Demos were only 20 MB's or less. Now a demo can be up to 2+ GB's. #startrekonline
@Techno-Atom: I too rmeebr when demo's were 20mb. I also remebr the days of sweet sweet dial-up and single core processor, heck I remember when I didn't know what a core was. And I probs used to think a terrabyte was a Virus.
But in the words of Snake:
"Spec's, Spec's have changed"
(and then Ron Perlman comes form the shadows and they start a massive argument) #startrekonline
I don't even get how companies calculate comparable processors. I have an Intel E8500 Core2Duo and an AMD Athlon X2 6000+ (the AMD Overclocked to 3.3GHz from 3.1GHz), and my E8500 can run circles around the OC 6000+.
I'm calling BS on an Athlon X2 5600+ running just as well as an E8400 Core2Duo. If an E8400 is "recommended" than you'll need a triple or quadcore AMD Phenom to keep up, I'm sure. #startrekonline
@Malthian: Oh, yeah. That's it. You solved it. Congrats. Oh wait, I own and use both every day, so it's probably real world experience I was talking from, not just some unbridled fandom.
Five months ago I left both computers to encode three DVDs to h.264 MKV files over night. When I woke up, seven or eight hours later, the Intel machine was just finishing the third video, while the AMD was just barely starting on the second video. THE SECOND VIDEO. If I'm an Intel fan now, I think AMD showed me the way.
@Kozath: Exactly. I've never owned an Intel chip in my life until this Core2Duo, and only bought it due to Benchmarks. #startrekonline
Sounds roughly the same as Champions Online's requirements, and that game ran like molasses on my computer.
I know, I know... I need to upgrade. Stupid single core is the main thing slowing me down in modern gaming /sigh.
What can I say, I've made a big shift to consoles lately and MMOs are all that interest me in PCs these days. Mostly older ones that run fine like EQ 1/2, Eve, WAR, etc.
Maybe if my stupid student loan people weren't absorbing my tax rebates I would be able to upgrade /bitter #startrekonline
@RedThree: More like raising 3 kids off my salary alone.
I'll get to a point where I can justify a new computer in my budget, but right now, not gonna upgrade for one or two games I may be interested in for a month or so. #startrekonline
@RedThree: Man, I wish I could FIND a job flipping burgers these days. I've been unemployed from a far better job for months now, don't make it out to be so easy. :( #startrekonline
@Curse_Lily: How can you possibly still have a computer that old?
Just recently I bought a computer for $400 that has a quad-core Phenom 2 X4 processor at 3.0ghz, 4 gigs of DDR2800 RAM, a 9800 GT with 512VRAM, a kickass motherboard, and a HDD with a 32mb cache and dual processors.
Huh, a game that I actually have the recommended specs for. That's not common anymore. Doubt I'll be able to play the PC version of this one until I can afford a new hard drive, though. :[
They really need to announce when the console versions are coming out, and whether or not they have M/KB support.
@Chris Piwarski: Champions has been confirmed for consoles for a while...unless you mean the mouse/keyboard support thing, in which case I kinda agree.
We'll see though, the PS3 supports it already and I would assume most MMO development studios know that.
I'm getting this primarily for the mame cabinet I'm building this summer. How awesome will it be to have Street Fighter IV running on a cabinet in my own living room!
@excel_excel: I know. Everything is falling into place, going to grab Ger's old dual core, throw my 8800GT into it and then it'll just be a matter of building the controllers and cabinet.
I can't wait to kick all your asses constantly in it. XD
I'm still on the fence whether to go Sanwa or Seimitsu though, I'm leaning heavily towards Sanwa but the Seimitsu parts have some nice pros. Out of curiosity, what PCB did you use for the controls? I've been eyeing up the Cthukhu for a while now and it seems to be the best option.
@Trygle12 is FREE!... and waiting for Disgaea 2: lol, nice. I don't want to mutilate any of my joypads though so that options gone. I'll probably end up going for the cthulhu since it's so straightforward to set up.
@kipperminge: Looks like you have much the same setup as myself so I should expect very nice results. I'll be displaying at 1680x1050 though so I'll probably lose a few fps.
@dsrtstorm: You're getting 60FPS average, what's fail about that? Also, if you have XP installed on your PC, you might want to try the benchmark on that, it's much better performance wise for games.
I didn't fare as well as I expected. At first I tried it @1680x1050 with 16xQAA but the results were terrible but then I figured since I'll be throwing the 8800GT into a mame cabinet and replacing it with a GTX260, it made sense to test settings that I'd have in the cabinet rather than on my main rig which will have a different card by time the game is out. I'll probably drop the AA down to 4x for the cabinet though since it won't make all that much of a difference in visual quality.
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Stop looking down on people.
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Mmm... non-jaggy toast.... #startrekonline
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。・゚・(ノД`)・゚・。 #startrekonline
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Though really you should be able to run it on a PADD #startrekonline
11/11/09
At least the requirements for this game seem okay. #startrekonline
11/11/09
I've not seen a PC with less than 500gb for a long while.
Not like it's dirt cheap or anything. ¬_¬
Though tbh console ports can be a right horror in the PC specs. GTAIV is worse than Crysis. #startrekonline
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If HDD space is the issue, its the cheapest to remedy. #startrekonline
11/11/09
Mass Effect, Dragon Age, and Borderlands are all on 360, so I'm pleased. #startrekonline
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My Desktop only has a 45 GB Harddrive and my laptop has a 160 GB harddrive. I didn't say it was an issue. I am just shocked as to how much space you need for games these days. I remember when Demos were only 20 MB's or less. Now a demo can be up to 2+ GB's. #startrekonline
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But in the words of Snake:
"Spec's, Spec's have changed"
(and then Ron Perlman comes form the shadows and they start a massive argument) #startrekonline
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I'm calling BS on an Athlon X2 5600+ running just as well as an E8400 Core2Duo. If an E8400 is "recommended" than you'll need a triple or quadcore AMD Phenom to keep up, I'm sure. #startrekonline
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Five months ago I left both computers to encode three DVDs to h.264 MKV files over night. When I woke up, seven or eight hours later, the Intel machine was just finishing the third video, while the AMD was just barely starting on the second video. THE SECOND VIDEO. If I'm an Intel fan now, I think AMD showed me the way.
@Kozath: Exactly. I've never owned an Intel chip in my life until this Core2Duo, and only bought it due to Benchmarks. #startrekonline
11/11/09
I know, I know... I need to upgrade. Stupid single core is the main thing slowing me down in modern gaming /sigh.
What can I say, I've made a big shift to consoles lately and MMOs are all that interest me in PCs these days. Mostly older ones that run fine like EQ 1/2, Eve, WAR, etc.
Maybe if my stupid student loan people weren't absorbing my tax rebates I would be able to upgrade /bitter #startrekonline
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I'll get to a point where I can justify a new computer in my budget, but right now, not gonna upgrade for one or two games I may be interested in for a month or so. #startrekonline
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Just recently I bought a computer for $400 that has a quad-core Phenom 2 X4 processor at 3.0ghz, 4 gigs of DDR2800 RAM, a 9800 GT with 512VRAM, a kickass motherboard, and a HDD with a 32mb cache and dual processors.
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They really need to announce when the console versions are coming out, and whether or not they have M/KB support.
07/07/09
I wouldn't hold my breath for the console version of any mmo. FF11 is the only one that actually managed to happen so far.
07/07/09
We'll see though, the PS3 supports it already and I would assume most MMO development studios know that.
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I can't wait to kick all your asses constantly in it. XD
06/18/09
That is awesome. I ended up building one and then almost immediately selling it because I was offered nearly twice what I paid for it.
I still wish I kept those Sanwa sticks, so I only have a Seimitsu for mine right now.
Really responsive and clicky.
06/18/09
I'm still on the fence whether to go Sanwa or Seimitsu though, I'm leaning heavily towards Sanwa but the Seimitsu parts have some nice pros. Out of curiosity, what PCB did you use for the controls? I've been eyeing up the Cthukhu for a while now and it seems to be the best option.
06/18/09
I got the PCB , he got his box/mock controller.
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AVERAGE: 135.60FPS
OS: Windows Professional
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Memory: 4096MB
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT
Display Setting: 1272x1017 86Hz C16xQAA
Awesome!!!
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SCORE: 6666
AVERAGE: 61.96FPS
OS: Windows Vista(TM) Ultimate
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
Memory: 4094MB
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+
Display Setting: 1280x1024 75Hz 8xAA
I fail :(
06/18/09
@kipperminge: SCORE: 6490
AVERAGE: 53.17FPS
OS: Windows XP Home Edition
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Memory: 3070MB
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
Display Setting: 1280x1024 60Hz 8xAA
I didn't fare as well as I expected. At first I tried it @1680x1050 with 16xQAA but the results were terrible but then I figured since I'll be throwing the 8800GT into a mame cabinet and replacing it with a GTX260, it made sense to test settings that I'd have in the cabinet rather than on my main rig which will have a different card by time the game is out. I'll probably drop the AA down to 4x for the cabinet though since it won't make all that much of a difference in visual quality.
06/18/09
SCORE: 51039
AVERAGE: 380.68FPS
OS: Windows Vista(TM) Ultimate
CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X3 720 Processor
Memory: 4094MB
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260
Display Setting: 1024x768 60Hz
lol
06/18/09
It does show promise for me though since I'll have the 260 by time the game comes out. What level of AA were you using?
THose X3 seem to be a very nice cpu too, quite cheap too, I was thinking of getting one for the cabinet.