@Xenris: Hey, Ex-CUUUUUUUSE me, Xenris, Link and Zelda teamed up in the Zelda TV show. Zelda starred in one of the CD-i games. Do you see the connection!? It's all Zelda's fault. There is no other explanation. Besides Nintendo's involvement, but still. Baby steps, change it in baby steps. Play it safe, boys. #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
So if Spirit Tracks has another timed dungeon, can I go collect rupees while Zelda's spirit floats through it eighteen times for me? #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
Slight problem in logic with spirit Zelda - why would she pester Link, who has to go through so much effort to save her, rather than just pester Gannon (or whoever) until he returns her to normal and lets her go? #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
@Roc-Thul: Are you sure? I'm quite sure we're dealing with the same princess through the whole "flooded world" thing. Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass, and Spirit Tracks are all supposed to take place in the same version.
As for the Zelda/Tetra thing, Tetra was a "cover", so to speak. That is to say, it was a disguise she didn't know she was wearing. I'm assuming Tetra was a persona cast upon her to hide her identity as Princess Zelda. Once her true identity was revealed (to both Link and herself), she stayed with the Zelda personality. #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
@andrewwyatt: It's been stated several times by Nintendo it takes place 100 years after Phantom Hourglass. Plus, Link just graduated to "Royal Engineer" after being an "Apprentice Engineer" early in the game's story. TWW/PH's Link would not need to do that since he and Tetra (plus the pirate crew) found the new Hyrule. #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
@p3hrmne: Aside from the 100 years after, no water, etc, stuff, it wouldn't follow the Zelda pattern. So far, Links come in pairs.
The Link from The Legend Of Zelda was the same Link that was in The Adventure Of Link. We got a new Link for A Link To The Past, who then went off to the Windfish's dream for Link's Awakening. Again, new Link for Ocarina of Time, and obviously the same link for Majora's Mask. Yet another new Link in a flooded world for Wind Waker and back for the sequel Phantom Hourglass. Twilight Princess - 100 years after OoT / Majora, so obviously not that Link. Not flooded Hyrule, so not the WW / PH Link. He didn't know Zelda already, so not the NES or LttP / Awakening Link.
It's feasible at this point that TP and Spirit Tracks Link could be the same, but highly doubtful and it's more likely they're basically just having two separate storylines in two separate times between the current versions.
Obviously, this doesn't guarantee anything, but it certainly makes it more reasonable to infer it won't be WW / PH Link even without the info about it taking place 100 years later.
Edit: Ah hell. Forgot about those damn Gameboy ones. I guess the Oracle ones count as a pair of Links. Four Swords wasn't really a standalone game so it doesn't count. The only one I'm not positive about would be Minish Cap and Four Swords adventures, which are clearly related plots, but the wikis don't specify how short a timespan is between them to know if it's likely a different Link or not.
@Roc-Thul: Okay, I realize my mistake assuming that Spirit Tracks was another direct sequel. I secretly figured Nintendo couldn't have two sequels to the same storyline. Also kinda makes sense that it's a different land (won't quite say Hyrule), what with all the land and all. Can't believe I didn't think of that.
I question whether it's been "stated several times by Nintendo" that the game is a century in Phantom Hourglass's future. I figure I might have known about the whole thing if they had, but it's possible I've been reading the wrong sources. Oh well.
Is this the longest we've ever been able to play as the same Link? Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask were the same hero (right?), but no others on the NES, SNES, or GBA had any definite connection to other Links.
I know that Phantom Hourglass was a sequel to Wind Waker (which had the same Hyrule but a different Link than Ocarina/MM), and this seems to be a sequel to Phantom Hourglass. Toon Link is on a roll. #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
@kagekiri: Well, lets see, Zelda I&II were probably the same Link, and then there's the obvious Oracle of Ages and Seasons. Link's Awakening, being a dream and all, is kind of squidy and could fit into a few different storylines.
However, this all adds up to no more than two games per story. Even Smash Brothers has OoT link in 1/Melee and then switches out to TP Link for Brawl, so that's out.
@Narsil: Link's Awakening is the same Link as the one from A Link to the Past. If Oracle of Ages and Seasons are that universe too, it would make four games with the same Link. #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
@Zunnoab: Hmm, you're more versed in the continuity than I. Is there any way Minish Cap can fit in that story as well? It makes sense for Link to come back after all those years of journeying to find Hyrule to be a bit different, and that Link seems to have a close relationship with that Zelda. Dunno if it works or not. #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
I know they've recycled art before, and Toon Link has already shown up in other games that are probably not the same Link or universe (didn't they have the Four Swords Links all look like sprite versions of him?).
It'd be interesting if they actually showed some tech changes (other than the train) between all these sequels in the Ocarina universe. Steam-punk Link, here we come!!
@Narsil: Nah, Minish cap is very early in the continuity, as it explains the "legendary hero's green hat". I think it's technically the first Zelda game chronologically now.
I honestly don't remember when Four Swords is supposed to take place, but something makes me think that LttP Link may also have something to do with that. (As he did travel quite a bit after LttP.) #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
Is this Zelda still Tetra? Because after watching this title, I highly doubt that Tetra would be afraid of a mouse.
...heck, any Zelda for that matter. The one from Link to the Past fought rats with us in the secret passage, and the one from the Ocarina timeline was a friggin' ninja. Can't believe Nintendo made Zelda moe. #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
@Fallen_Reality: Ah. Too bad. I thought we were actually gonna see some damn progress in the storyline. Such as that "new world" they were going to discover. #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
you know i like the legend of zelda games but ive been pretty ambivalent about a number of titles, Majora's mask, windwaker (i like it, i played it all and beat it, but at a friend's place) and phantom hourglass,minish cap. It isnt a big deal but this has actually caught my attention because of this, and i may actually get this one, its kinda like borderlands didnt really get catch my attention to start finding out about it till they changed the graphic style, though im sure the gameplay would be the same if kept the old way #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
@Desmondia: sorry I absolutely hate a time mechanism like it has, I like to take my time and play a game as slowly as i want if so be and just screwaround , and then theres tingle....... oh lord do i hate tingle #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
Using Zelda to posses things seems like quite the interesting twist on the usual Zelda games.
Also, I could be completely wrong (I probably am) but could the train in this game mean that it is the furthest along in the timeline, and the world in the Zelda games will continue to technologically advance, to the point where instead of riding around on trains or horses, we'd have cars, and instead of riding around on a boat to get from place-to-place we'd travel via helicopter or airplane. Oh, and electricity in places rather than the torches/candles etc would be nice also. #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
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Sigh... Cmon... revolutionize Zelda for once please! #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
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haunted trains? really? wtf?
and since when does zelda like being all prissy? i thought she was TERA a tomboy? #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
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As for the Zelda/Tetra thing, Tetra was a "cover", so to speak. That is to say, it was a disguise she didn't know she was wearing. I'm assuming Tetra was a persona cast upon her to hide her identity as Princess Zelda. Once her true identity was revealed (to both Link and herself), she stayed with the Zelda personality. #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
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The Link from The Legend Of Zelda was the same Link that was in The Adventure Of Link. We got a new Link for A Link To The Past, who then went off to the Windfish's dream for Link's Awakening. Again, new Link for Ocarina of Time, and obviously the same link for Majora's Mask. Yet another new Link in a flooded world for Wind Waker and back for the sequel Phantom Hourglass. Twilight Princess - 100 years after OoT / Majora, so obviously not that Link. Not flooded Hyrule, so not the WW / PH Link. He didn't know Zelda already, so not the NES or LttP / Awakening Link.
It's feasible at this point that TP and Spirit Tracks Link could be the same, but highly doubtful and it's more likely they're basically just having two separate storylines in two separate times between the current versions.
Obviously, this doesn't guarantee anything, but it certainly makes it more reasonable to infer it won't be WW / PH Link even without the info about it taking place 100 years later.
Edit: Ah hell. Forgot about those damn Gameboy ones. I guess the Oracle ones count as a pair of Links. Four Swords wasn't really a standalone game so it doesn't count. The only one I'm not positive about would be Minish Cap and Four Swords adventures, which are clearly related plots, but the wikis don't specify how short a timespan is between them to know if it's likely a different Link or not.
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I question whether it's been "stated several times by Nintendo" that the game is a century in Phantom Hourglass's future. I figure I might have known about the whole thing if they had, but it's possible I've been reading the wrong sources. Oh well.
Point is, I get it. #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
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And finally, after 23 years, Link gets to ride Zelda! It had to be said, sorry...
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I know that Phantom Hourglass was a sequel to Wind Waker (which had the same Hyrule but a different Link than Ocarina/MM), and this seems to be a sequel to Phantom Hourglass. Toon Link is on a roll. #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
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However, this all adds up to no more than two games per story. Even Smash Brothers has OoT link in 1/Melee and then switches out to TP Link for Brawl, so that's out.
Yeah, you might be on to something here.
Also, toon link isn't on a roll, he's ON A TRAIN. DON'T YOU EVER FORGET. #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
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I know they've recycled art before, and Toon Link has already shown up in other games that are probably not the same Link or universe (didn't they have the Four Swords Links all look like sprite versions of him?).
It'd be interesting if they actually showed some tech changes (other than the train) between all these sequels in the Ocarina universe. Steam-punk Link, here we come!!
(I'm kidding). #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
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I honestly don't remember when Four Swords is supposed to take place, but something makes me think that LttP Link may also have something to do with that. (As he did travel quite a bit after LttP.) #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
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...heck, any Zelda for that matter. The one from Link to the Past fought rats with us in the secret passage, and the one from the Ocarina timeline was a friggin' ninja. Can't believe Nintendo made Zelda moe. #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
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Anyone who's read the relevant section of TVTropes Unpleasable Fanbase page should be laughing right now. #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
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Also, I could be completely wrong (I probably am) but could the train in this game mean that it is the furthest along in the timeline, and the world in the Zelda games will continue to technologically advance, to the point where instead of riding around on trains or horses, we'd have cars, and instead of riding around on a boat to get from place-to-place we'd travel via helicopter or airplane. Oh, and electricity in places rather than the torches/candles etc would be nice also. #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks
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wait, what? #thelegendofzeldaspirittracks