I wish gamecovers were still original and quirky, not a giant endorsement.
Somethin along the lines of a baseball speeding at the cover, brandishing a menacing looking grin.. Or a baseball with a look of terror on it's face as it's about to be hit by the bat.
Maybe i'm just old fashioned that way...I just hate this meaningless idolization...
@D-K: It works, though. When I was going to Blockbuster in 95 or so looking for something to play, more often than not I'd get Griffey Baseball because it had him on the cover and he was my favorite player. It never occurred to me that he was the only "real" player in the game. And Brett Hull was the reason I got an inferior hockey game to NHL 94.
@HatchC2: I see, well i just figured that with their 10th anniversery, they'd at least do some form of special cover. This just seems like a wasted oppurtunity, especially with the mention of it tucked away in the top right like that..
I may have to add i was never one to idolize sports' stars, which leaves me indifferent to their faces, i guess..
@D-K: A special cover would have been nice, but I think so much of a sports game's reception today is how closely it resembles a television broadcast and its presentation in general, so I think the cover would still have to keep itself from being over the top. It would have been cool to have a compilation of the last nine years of covers for the 10th anniversary, though, but then I suppose 2K might have to pay those former cover athletes to use them again? I'm not sure.
@HatchC2: It's depressing really.. sometimes i wish we had never left the 2D arcade cabinet era behind.. The golden snes days... games that didn't equate realism with fun.
@Serge Tiger Stambolyan: I would buy an ultimate frisbee game in a heart beat so long as that heart beat was well made with a decent course selection. Time to shine the XNA signal! Because, really, no professional developer would touch the idea.
Mine is from NCAA Football '09 on 360, and I remember this like the birth of a child because it was the most intense game I have ever played. Two of my friends and I were in the second year of a SunBelt dynasty. I was Troy, and the friend I played for this memory was UL Lafayette. We played each other in about the 8th or 9th game of our season, and were both undefeated, so basically the winner of the game was the conference champion.
He had a super-fast freshman hb and I had a super-fast freshman wr, and the game was an absolute track meet. He'd burn me on outside runs and my receiver would fly past his secondary. We pretty much matched each other score for score, turnover for turnover the entire game.
I was down 48-44 with about a buck-fifteen left on the clock in the 4th quarter, and trying to drive down the field just to get ahead and hope I could stop him. Well, a sack, an incompletion, and a dropped pass later I end up throwing about a 40 yard INT to his safety. I have no timeouts, all he has to do is take a knee.
So with 40 seconds left, he decides to run a flare pass to his full back, who catches the ball and starts heading up field.
I switch over to my linebacker, and run towards the fb holding down the strip ball button like a family member would die if I let go.
And sure enough, my linebacker strips the ball from his full back, and it rolls right along the sideline, god knows how close to going out of bounds. My safety takes a line on it, picks it up and runs it to the thirty yard line. One play later, freshman receiver catches the go ahead touchdown in the corner of the endzone. I kick-off, he goes nowhere, game over.
I start jumping up and down, grinning like an idiot, celebrating like i'd won the lottery, and look over at him, and I have never seen anyone's face so red. it was amazing.
NHL 94 - I still remember vividly the day I was actually successful at knocking the net off of its moorings and shooting the puck into said sliding net. It was a moment two years in the making during which my friends and I would try about ten times a game.Sadly, I was alone when happened (just like the first time I had sex).
Tecmo Bowl - Playing a Tecmo Bowl season in my neighborhood was a two man operation. You had one guy controlling Dave Meggett and the other guy charting your yardage. It wasn't enough to beat Bo Jackson, you had to earn neighborhood rushing bragging rights.
Pete Rose Pennant Fever on PC - so obsessed I was with this game as a 7th grader, I taught myself how to keep score.
NBA Shootout on PSX - Averaging 100+ per game for Georghe Mureshan (sp?) in a season.
As an NCAA Junky my self, I can atest to the personal game drama a series can bring. And each title brings with it it's own stories and memories.
I can remember 07, playing Online with my PSU lions verse another who lovely decided to play OSU buckeyes. Up by 7, OSU runs a late 2 minute drill in the fourth quarter. With 5 seconds left, a quick corner strike goes to the endzone. OSU's WR (Ginn I believe) catches the ball.. but lands out of bounds as time expires. No review called but on replay, it looks close...
This year, I'm taking Louisville into a mutli-year season and had one game where I started a freshman QB who had a terrible 53 awareness rating. He throws 3 picks and I find my self benching him for my bench riding backup. I'm down 28-0 against kentucky and have to pull out a hard fought double overtime win to keep the upset from happening.
In my head I an see the coach (me) screaming at his players to play better, while consoling his freshman QB that it's ok. Little stories like these are about as non-linar as gameplay comes, and this experience is what keeps me coming back to sports titles
"Breakfast, shmreakfast. Look at the score, for Christ's sake. It's only the second period and I'm up 12 to 2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, "the Whale," they only beat Vancouver once, maybe twice in a lifetime."
But seriously, why shouldn't we invest emotionally in our video game sports? It may not be "real", but our participation in the outcome is more direct than when we cheer for our real sports teams. I have many good memories of playing these games.
NFL 2k is solely missed. I haven't played a NFL football game since 2k5. Madden's exclusive NFL license is one of the worse things to happen to video games since the deal was made. It proves that EA has an inferior product and didn't like the competition.
I won't be playing an NFL title again until Visual Concepts gets the license back. To hell with madden. #sports
@Striderhayasa - Can we get some damn m/kb support?!: for a while, I was one of those people that didn't believe, but I played NFL 2K5 recently, and I was amazed at how much better the gameplay is than Madden.
Do people still update and download rosters for 2K5? I might go re-buy it, as I had Madden 10 and after playing it for two weeks returned it. It's a broken game. #sports
@casmith07: there was a friend of mine that kept up with the updated rosters but that was a couple of years ago. I don't know if he does it now. Check google. There might be someone around doing it. #sports
@Striderhayasa - Can we get some damn m/kb support?!: there's some kind of editor out there, but nothing terribly concrete...would love to see that game reconstructed. I think the NFL's exclusive license is close to being up with EA Sports too. #sports
I definitely agree. NFL 2k5 is my favorite sports game possibly of all time. It's just a shame that the force that is EA Sports basically canned this franchise. Such a shame.
There needs to be some form of anti-trust action taken for this sort of stuff, lol. #sports
@P3nnst8r: The logical follow-up to that is "everyone should be allowed to make Batman movies"... I'm generally a super-liberal, anti-business pro-regulatory-body commie, but I'm not convinced that preventing IP holders from signing exclusive agreements is a solution to any pressing problem.
Still, I understand your frustration with a predatory business deal that has diminished the quality and quantity of selection. #sports
@Brett Benedict: Well, the big thing that hurt 2K5's gameplay was running with the QB was too effective, even with a spy put on him. I'm sure 2K6 would had fixed that one nagging issue. Too bad Visual Concepts never got the chance. :^( #sports
I think the most analogous situation to a sports game winning a GOTY award would be a documentary winning the Oscar for best picture. There's no reason a documentary couldn't win best picture; they're certainly not barred from the category. But the form just isn't one that critics and voters consider appropriate for an overall "best of" category.
And I think you're right, Owen, in that it has something to do with storytelling-- we consider that an essential criterion for a game that could win GOTY. Sports games simply don't tell stories; they create structures in which the gamer can tell a story. That, of course, brings us back to NFL 2k5, which used the ESPN format to come closer than any other football title to telling a story. It gets my nod as Sports Game of the Decade.
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haha nice
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Somethin along the lines of a baseball speeding at the cover, brandishing a menacing looking grin.. Or a baseball with a look of terror on it's face as it's about to be hit by the bat.
Maybe i'm just old fashioned that way...I just hate this meaningless idolization...
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Of course, I was 8 at the time, but still.
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I may have to add i was never one to idolize sports' stars, which leaves me indifferent to their faces, i guess..
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I'll go rock in my chair and smoke a pipe now..
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He had a super-fast freshman hb and I had a super-fast freshman wr, and the game was an absolute track meet. He'd burn me on outside runs and my receiver would fly past his secondary. We pretty much matched each other score for score, turnover for turnover the entire game.
I was down 48-44 with about a buck-fifteen left on the clock in the 4th quarter, and trying to drive down the field just to get ahead and hope I could stop him. Well, a sack, an incompletion, and a dropped pass later I end up throwing about a 40 yard INT to his safety. I have no timeouts, all he has to do is take a knee.
So with 40 seconds left, he decides to run a flare pass to his full back, who catches the ball and starts heading up field.
I switch over to my linebacker, and run towards the fb holding down the strip ball button like a family member would die if I let go.
And sure enough, my linebacker strips the ball from his full back, and it rolls right along the sideline, god knows how close to going out of bounds. My safety takes a line on it, picks it up and runs it to the thirty yard line. One play later, freshman receiver catches the go ahead touchdown in the corner of the endzone. I kick-off, he goes nowhere, game over.
I start jumping up and down, grinning like an idiot, celebrating like i'd won the lottery, and look over at him, and I have never seen anyone's face so red. it was amazing.
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11/21/09
NHL 94 - I still remember vividly the day I was actually successful at knocking the net off of its moorings and shooting the puck into said sliding net. It was a moment two years in the making during which my friends and I would try about ten times a game.Sadly, I was alone when happened (just like the first time I had sex).
Tecmo Bowl - Playing a Tecmo Bowl season in my neighborhood was a two man operation. You had one guy controlling Dave Meggett and the other guy charting your yardage. It wasn't enough to beat Bo Jackson, you had to earn neighborhood rushing bragging rights.
Pete Rose Pennant Fever on PC - so obsessed I was with this game as a 7th grader, I taught myself how to keep score.
NBA Shootout on PSX - Averaging 100+ per game for Georghe Mureshan (sp?) in a season.
11/21/09
I can remember 07, playing Online with my PSU lions verse another who lovely decided to play OSU buckeyes. Up by 7, OSU runs a late 2 minute drill in the fourth quarter. With 5 seconds left, a quick corner strike goes to the endzone. OSU's WR (Ginn I believe) catches the ball.. but lands out of bounds as time expires. No review called but on replay, it looks close...
This year, I'm taking Louisville into a mutli-year season and had one game where I started a freshman QB who had a terrible 53 awareness rating. He throws 3 picks and I find my self benching him for my bench riding backup. I'm down 28-0 against kentucky and have to pull out a hard fought double overtime win to keep the upset from happening.
In my head I an see the coach (me) screaming at his players to play better, while consoling his freshman QB that it's ok. Little stories like these are about as non-linar as gameplay comes, and this experience is what keeps me coming back to sports titles
11/21/09
Thanks Owen!!
11/21/09
Also once actually stealing the inbound pass in NBA Jam: TE to send the game into triple ot and winning the game. With Dikembe scoring every point
11/21/09
But seriously, why shouldn't we invest emotionally in our video game sports? It may not be "real", but our participation in the outcome is more direct than when we cheer for our real sports teams. I have many good memories of playing these games.
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I won't be playing an NFL title again until Visual Concepts gets the license back. To hell with madden. #sports
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Do people still update and download rosters for 2K5? I might go re-buy it, as I had Madden 10 and after playing it for two weeks returned it. It's a broken game. #sports
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There needs to be some form of anti-trust action taken for this sort of stuff, lol. #sports
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Still, I understand your frustration with a predatory business deal that has diminished the quality and quantity of selection. #sports
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[www.nfl2k5rosters.com] #sports
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And I think you're right, Owen, in that it has something to do with storytelling-- we consider that an essential criterion for a game that could win GOTY. Sports games simply don't tell stories; they create structures in which the gamer can tell a story. That, of course, brings us back to NFL 2k5, which used the ESPN format to come closer than any other football title to telling a story. It gets my nod as Sports Game of the Decade.