After what he did to Indy, I just don't trust him anymore.
And besides, Halo and WETA are perfect for each other. I know with WETA, there will be a minimum use of CG (they'll make as much of it with their own hands as they can). Spielberg...would probably use ILM.
I say again: all those novels are terrible, and the idea of a movie about lil' Master Chief makes me sick.
And I could've called a Spielberg-produced Transformers movie 5 years ago, yeah. Pretty easily: [www.corporate-ir.net]
Between the comment threads on every Sunday Comics post and every Halo-related post, I think someone could crank out a compelling doctoral thesis about overwrought fanboy angst and the true nature of the phenomenon referred to as "hating." For everyone else, I highly recommend the show all comments link if you need a good laugh today.
@Islandkiwi: Another interesting thing is that Robin Williams is a HUGE fan of Evangelion. For awhile there it was rumored that he was attached in some productive capacity to the live action movie that was in pre-production.
As long as it follows the tenets of "Used Cars" and stars the original cast (dead and/or alive) as the HALO characters, I'm down.
Hey, it's a game movie. You may as well aim high on cheese factor, right?
Soldier_CLE says DON'T STOP AT THE STAR! REVOKE THE WHOLE DAMN THING, OWEN!!! was starred
Soldier_CLE says DON'T STOP AT THE STAR! REVOKE THE WHOLE DAMN THING, OWEN!!! was unstarred
Just stop already! The majority of good games do not translate into good movies for one reason and that is that a good game is good because of gameplay, something you can't exactly translate into a movie.
@Pyrefly: Most of the time, I'd say that you are right. But the Halo franchise has proved it can exist in other mediums nicely because it has such a large and thoroughly developed universe. For example; comics, books, even Halo Wars. Major departures from the source in terms of gameplay, but not in terms of depth in story. Now, Halo Wars was a pretty shitty RTS, but it got the story and the canon down well despite retooling the gameplay of the series. And same with the comics and the Fall Of Reach, the only Halo book I read.
If you say "Just stop already!" and some producers listen to you, we'll never get a good game movie. Each movie is a stepping stone. Look how long it took to get good comic movies! The old Punisher...oooh man. Even if Halo bombs, it means we're one step closer to a game movie that doesn't suck!
@reginald: Yeah becuase Shindlers List, Raiders of the lost Ark, Saving Private Ryan, Jaws, Close Encounters, Color Purple, Munich, Empire of the Sun are all terribly directed films with no vision.
The only reason anyone could consider Spielberg generic is that fact that 90% of filmakers working today are trying to be like him. Why? Because even when he directs a bad film it is still worth watching. Even his worse projects are better than most directors best projects.
Look at almost all popular filmakers working today(good ones and bad ones) and almost everyone of them will say they were inspired by 3 directors. Coppala, Scorsese and Spielberg. Of course somethings going to come off as generic when everyone is copying the same things. Will I admit he has gotten overly sentimental in his works lately yes, but that still doesn't change what he has done in the past. Example Spielberg admitted that since the birth of his children the things he did in past films would not happen if he had made the same movie today(I.e. Dreyfess leaving his wife and kids to go on the alien ship in Encounters).
But regardless he's interested in producing the film, never said anything about directing it.
Unlike most game to film adaptations, this could be one of the "successful" ones, considering the following behind it. Not to mention, the story is compelling (the novel storyline) enough that for even people that aren't halo enthusiasts they might find it entertaining.
I would rather not see Spielberg do that. He is one of THE best directors of all time for good reason. If he does Halo, then that might ruin his reputation as there wasn't any really good movies based on games at all.
Movies and games don't really get along well.
@n00b_pwner: But, oh, here the glory lies. If he manages to impossible, and does a GOOD movie based on a video game, he is MORE AWESOME.
Many producers can handle at least one or two bad films, anyways.
I am a Halo Fan and if the script follows the book series it will be great..
As for the other comments if you dont think Halo has enuff back bone for a movie you should read the books.
@ice-in-the-vein: So "it's in books" automatically means "worthy of a movie" now? Guess that explains twilight. Do you agree twilight is worthy of a movie? If not, you must not have read the books, eh?
@Cervidanti: Actually, what ice said was that "if you don't think the games are worth making into a movie, you should read the tie-ins, because they're more than enough to make a good movie with."
The preceding paragraph, that if the movie follows the books (Beattie's script is supposedly based on Fall of Reach), it will be good, is quite accurate, as the Nylund books were damn good.
@DocSeuss: I'm kind of fond of The Cole Protocol as well.
My only problem is that Nylund spends a LOT of time talking strategies that the characters form. Sometimes I want him to STFU.
But yeah. Fall of Reach movie please.
Even with Spielberg being involved I still can't help but think that this movie if its ever made is going to be just awful. I can't really think of one decent video game to movie translation up to date that was any good the RE movies where ok at best well, at least the first one but after that they were just horrible.
Do we seriously need all this halo shit? Honestly? How did it get this big? It's a fucking mindless shooter. Yeah, I'm fully prepared for the jocky morons who think Go Dog Go is a novel to come tell me it's got an amazing plot that I don't understand because I never read the made-after-the-fact books that sound like they're poor fanfiction.
@Cervidanti:
Mindless? Maybe if you ignore the dialogue and cutscenes, sure.
Comparing it with Twilight irks me to the core. At least we don't have people stalking Steve Downes (Chief's voice actor) or Jen Talyor (Cortana's voice actress). Twilight is basically a culmination of a woman's perverse interest in teenage boys, and covering it up with saying they're actually really really old, but retain their Adonis-like looks.
Halo, on the other hand, is a story of humanity's last hope in a losing battle against a superior race. During said battle, we learn a bit about that universe's version of humanity's origins, and most of civilization. We also learn what happened to the ancient beings, and why. This is all in the games, mind you.
The books explore MC's past, his relationship with the other SPARTAN IIs, and those relationships coming to often bitter ends. It reveals that he sacrificed everything to save the human race. He's nowhere near perfect, and it shows. He tries not to get attached to teammates and fellow soldiers, but it becomes obvious he feels pangs of remorse when they fall. Heck, you see that in the games, too. He saves soldiers lives in every game, and you see the connection he forms with Cortana.
Were it truly mindless, there would not be such an extensive fanbase to it. Halo.bungie.org is an immense site filled with users who genuinely appreciate the story that Bungie crafted, and the story page is filled with ongoing speculation. The Halo wikia has hundreds upon hundreds of articles, from weapons to government organizations to vehicles and Covenant castes. Were it truly mindless, would these exist? Articles by Stephen Loftus show that there are great things afoot in the universe of Halo, you just need to look for them.
Also, Cortana's not really sparkly. She's a hologram, sure, but the only way to get her to sparkle is to toss some glitter into the hologram to interfere. Otherwise, it's just light. It's like saying a flashlight's beam is sparkly.
@Cervidanti: "I never read" OK, I'm going to stop you right there.
I just don't see how someone that doesn't bother to learn more about what he's going on and on about has anything at all valid to say about a storied and wildly popular franchise. If you are going to criticize it, criticize it directly for what it is not what you speculate it is. And if you can't be bothered to, why does something that doesn't effect you in anyway matter so much? Honestly, thee are more worthwhile causes people like you should take up.
@†FunkBrothaDee†:
Neither do I. I liked the story when I played it, and when I heard there were books, I borrowed them from a friend, then eventually bought my own copies. I didn't -need- to find out the rest of the story, because the games have plenty. Forgive me for having an interest in something.
@Cervidanti: While even I will agree with you that anyone who tries to prop Halo up on the merits of its plot or storytelling is worse than deluded, I loved all three games because of the gameplay. Yes, it's typical FPS gameplay. But it's tight and well balanced, perfect for multiplayer, and the single player game is epic not in its plot but in the sense that you are put into the role of an action hero gunning down hordes of aliens. Lots of unique weapons, vehicles, enemy variety calling for different tactics. Not anything that hasn't been done before, but arguably it hasn't been done quite as well as Halo.
Yes, it's essentially mindless blockbuster entertainment, but there's no shame in admitting that it can be done well or that you enjoyed it. Case in point: the recent Star Trek reboot.
@gunluva EDGE: Come on man. I can't imagine why anyone would play these games because of the story. There's no character development, it's just plot point after plot point. World destroying superweapons, super soldiers, implacable alien enemies... it's the same old sci-fi cliches, different skin.
Come for the gameplay, and just accept the fact that the story is an excuse to mow down thousands of aliens.
Sounds crazy, but then, five years ago how many of you would have picked that Spielberg would produce a Transformers movie?
Agreed, it does sound out of place, but then who knows.
Sony is doing an Uncharted movie, which I didn't really see coming - the game played like an adventure movie already, I find it weird that it's basically regressing to being just a movie. I also don't think the characters are (or could be) developed enough to provide backbone for a really decent movie and I feel the same way about Halo.
The only videogame movie I care about would be MGS. Sony, pick it up already.
@jandlecack: Halo never really had any character development (except for stereotypical Johnson), so it's possible that Spielberg can leave the MC character open for the viewers to witness the aspirations of this one mysterious hero and what he has done to save the world, if done correctly.
As for an MGS movie... NO.
I'm confused as it is with all the MGS game's story, so what makes you think it's possible to capture that MGS moment fans and lots of gamers alike have appreciated over the years? I can just imagine the confusion and questions asked on why so many characters are throwing away perfectly nice jackets.
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(DEAD) Goldwings - Remembered for his bravery and heroism... xD was unstarred
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And besides, Halo and WETA are perfect for each other. I know with WETA, there will be a minimum use of CG (they'll make as much of it with their own hands as they can). Spielberg...would probably use ILM.
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And I could've called a Spielberg-produced Transformers movie 5 years ago, yeah. Pretty easily: [www.corporate-ir.net]
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Why, may I ask, do you think the novels were terrible ?
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Agreed.
They were decent novels, especially Fall of Reach.
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Well Said my man.
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Hey, it's a game movie. You may as well aim high on cheese factor, right?
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If you say "Just stop already!" and some producers listen to you, we'll never get a good game movie. Each movie is a stepping stone. Look how long it took to get good comic movies! The old Punisher...oooh man. Even if Halo bombs, it means we're one step closer to a game movie that doesn't suck!
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The only reason anyone could consider Spielberg generic is that fact that 90% of filmakers working today are trying to be like him. Why? Because even when he directs a bad film it is still worth watching. Even his worse projects are better than most directors best projects.
Look at almost all popular filmakers working today(good ones and bad ones) and almost everyone of them will say they were inspired by 3 directors. Coppala, Scorsese and Spielberg. Of course somethings going to come off as generic when everyone is copying the same things. Will I admit he has gotten overly sentimental in his works lately yes, but that still doesn't change what he has done in the past. Example Spielberg admitted that since the birth of his children the things he did in past films would not happen if he had made the same movie today(I.e. Dreyfess leaving his wife and kids to go on the alien ship in Encounters).
But regardless he's interested in producing the film, never said anything about directing it.
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Movies and games don't really get along well.
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Many producers can handle at least one or two bad films, anyways.
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I am a Halo Fan and if the script follows the book series it will be great..
As for the other comments if you dont think Halo has enuff back bone for a movie you should read the books.
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The preceding paragraph, that if the movie follows the books (Beattie's script is supposedly based on Fall of Reach), it will be good, is quite accurate, as the Nylund books were damn good.
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My only problem is that Nylund spends a LOT of time talking strategies that the characters form. Sometimes I want him to STFU.
But yeah. Fall of Reach movie please.
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Mindless? Maybe if you ignore the dialogue and cutscenes, sure.
Comparing it with Twilight irks me to the core. At least we don't have people stalking Steve Downes (Chief's voice actor) or Jen Talyor (Cortana's voice actress). Twilight is basically a culmination of a woman's perverse interest in teenage boys, and covering it up with saying they're actually really really old, but retain their Adonis-like looks.
Halo, on the other hand, is a story of humanity's last hope in a losing battle against a superior race. During said battle, we learn a bit about that universe's version of humanity's origins, and most of civilization. We also learn what happened to the ancient beings, and why. This is all in the games, mind you.
The books explore MC's past, his relationship with the other SPARTAN IIs, and those relationships coming to often bitter ends. It reveals that he sacrificed everything to save the human race. He's nowhere near perfect, and it shows. He tries not to get attached to teammates and fellow soldiers, but it becomes obvious he feels pangs of remorse when they fall. Heck, you see that in the games, too. He saves soldiers lives in every game, and you see the connection he forms with Cortana.
Were it truly mindless, there would not be such an extensive fanbase to it. Halo.bungie.org is an immense site filled with users who genuinely appreciate the story that Bungie crafted, and the story page is filled with ongoing speculation. The Halo wikia has hundreds upon hundreds of articles, from weapons to government organizations to vehicles and Covenant castes. Were it truly mindless, would these exist? Articles by Stephen Loftus show that there are great things afoot in the universe of Halo, you just need to look for them.
Also, Cortana's not really sparkly. She's a hologram, sure, but the only way to get her to sparkle is to toss some glitter into the hologram to interfere. Otherwise, it's just light. It's like saying a flashlight's beam is sparkly.
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I just don't see how someone that doesn't bother to learn more about what he's going on and on about has anything at all valid to say about a storied and wildly popular franchise. If you are going to criticize it, criticize it directly for what it is not what you speculate it is. And if you can't be bothered to, why does something that doesn't effect you in anyway matter so much? Honestly, thee are more worthwhile causes people like you should take up.
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Neither do I. I liked the story when I played it, and when I heard there were books, I borrowed them from a friend, then eventually bought my own copies. I didn't -need- to find out the rest of the story, because the games have plenty. Forgive me for having an interest in something.
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Yes, it's essentially mindless blockbuster entertainment, but there's no shame in admitting that it can be done well or that you enjoyed it. Case in point: the recent Star Trek reboot.
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Come for the gameplay, and just accept the fact that the story is an excuse to mow down thousands of aliens.
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Agreed, it does sound out of place, but then who knows.
Sony is doing an Uncharted movie, which I didn't really see coming - the game played like an adventure movie already, I find it weird that it's basically regressing to being just a movie. I also don't think the characters are (or could be) developed enough to provide backbone for a really decent movie and I feel the same way about Halo.
The only videogame movie I care about would be MGS. Sony, pick it up already.
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As for an MGS movie... NO.
I'm confused as it is with all the MGS game's story, so what makes you think it's possible to capture that MGS moment fans and lots of gamers alike have appreciated over the years? I can just imagine the confusion and questions asked on why so many characters are throwing away perfectly nice jackets.