Only played up to the 1st epic boss fight, other games to finish first. It's pretty much what I was expecting, but it really should have dropped the whole wiimote waggling gimmick altogether. I can't put my hand on why beat em ups in 3D just never quite feel as good as 2D ones. Still... this is a good start, but I surely have quite a few ideas on how to make it perfect. Too bad no one at Capcom is listening. I bought it, I had to. But I suggest everyone else a cautious rent first. =)
@RockyRan: Bullshit. Wolverine was loved by just about everyone and it's as mindless as can be. It's no better than Spyborgs. It just has blood and Wolverine with hype so they overlooked those exact same flaws. Standards haven't changed. People are just blind.
@Ueziel: You calling bullshit is amusingly ironical.
Wolverine holds about a 75% on GameRankings and Metacritic, and the majority of the reviews did mention the repetitiveness of the game. Saying it was "loved" by "just about everyone" is a pretty big overstatement.
Come on, now. No need to try to defend a game that clearly has flaws, especially since your "evidence" does nothing to prove your "point".
@RockyRan: Uh, yes it does. When the game came out, it was game of the week all over the place, including here I'm pretty sure. All the comments were very very positive. I'm not talking about only reviews. People overlooked the repetition because it had blood and Wolverine.
Your attempt to take the high road just makes you look like a total douche. Especially considering you have no actual argument against what I'm saying.
And I'm not defending just this game. I'm arguing against the idea that "repetition is not acceptable." It's in every game out there. It's in every shooter. Every game you have enjoyed in the last month, is very likely "mindlessly repetitive." Your tastes didn't "evolve" or "change," you just arbitrarily decided it was okay for some games and not okay for others.
@Ueziel: I have to agree with you there. Unfortunately even here at Kotaku there have been the "double standard" rule when one game will get slammed for a flaw but a "hyped" game will get a pass. One of the biggest offenders is Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. Glitchy, buggy and with a inconsistent framerate and reviewers were loving it to the point I could see them on their knees ready to do the deed. But how many other games have we read reviews for that got blasted for those same exact flaws?
Another example...Street FighterIV...hyped, loved in the reviews and guess what, it's Street Fighter EX2 with better graphics, more characters and gameplay tweaks. What does Capcom do...announce Super Street FighterIV Turbo HD, Custom, Hyper, Solid, Fat Toad, Looks like your Mom, Edition... milking it for all its worth.
BlazBlue and KoF....er'...45 are the true fighters that should be held in high regard.
After playing Turtles in Time on PSN, I could go for Spyborgs...after I'm finished getting platinum in Batman: AA
@Ueziel: Look, I'm not going to dignify your ridiculously hostile behavior by continuing this meaningless argument. You know this game is flawed, I know it, the reviewers know it, we all know it. Nothing else needs to be said about it. I tend to be argumentative everywhere else but I try to keep it away from my comments on this site. I'm of the firm belief that starred commenters need to constantly set an example for the rest, and mindless bickering is not my idea of achieving that.
@Ueziel: and dont forget ultimate alliance. although some people hate on dynasty warriors, it still definitely has an audience.
"repitition" is not the problem, its poor design. ive said this time and time again, people wont have a problem with doing the same thing over and over, if what they are doing is really satisfying. streets of rage 2 is regarded one of the best beat em ups of all time for that reason.. sure you were going up against swarms and swarms of the same enemies, but the mechanics and design was so good, you had fun doing it.
i mean really, its like left 4 dead or horde/firefight in gears/halo. although those games had some campaigns ppl talk about.. most people say odst is worth it for firefight.
firefight isnt that much fun alone imo, but with a friend or 2 (or 3), its a blast. same thing with 99% of the old beat em ups.
The butt rock belies the overhaul the game received. In short, it sounds terrrrrrrrible.
I kind of wish some of the light-heartedness from the first pass had stuck around (almost like Uncharted). As it stands, it is a bit too "grrr, I am tough and might = right!" for my tastes.
I have no idea where you got that picture from Brian, but why the hell is there a photoshopped (or it at least looks photoshopped) image of the grim reaper in the bottom right!?
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Edited by Can I Really Be the Hero? at 08/11/09 3:32 PM
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At least one person realized it was a flippin pun based on the activity that Capcom has planned.
I guess I was subconsciously asking for this reaction, though. I knew I was just begging to be taken seriously, so I shouldn't have been surprised when I *was* taken seriously.
@Yossarian: You're welcome! Of course I realized it. I knew no one could actually hate Capcom. While a lot of other companies are full of hot-air, Capcom always, always delivers on what they promise. After all, the world has deadrising because of them. I guess the Kommentators here have become too jaded from the flocks of trolls who hover over every minute of this site to realize a quality pun when one comes around. All in all they've become all too quick to cock back their commenting pistols and shoot their man-juice over anyone who opens their mouth......
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@NeVeRMoRe666: Yeah, these replies really let the wind out the sails and brought me back down to earth.
Your intelligence is a breath of fresh air, though. Maybe with you explaining this to the masses you can bring about the winds of change that will carry us to new heights.
Who am I kidding... They'll figure it out when pigs fly...
@Mister_CrazyGuy: You're confusing men with women.What you mean is you are ok with Chun-Li as a friend, but prefer big sexy man thighs. Glad to help clear up that confusion.
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however, I think it's getting a lot of flak for essentially being a beat-'em-up.
I mean, hold these same critiques to Final Fight or Streets of Rage and see how those games fare... know what I mean?
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Standards change, buddy. Mindless repetition, even in beat 'em ups, is not acceptable anymore in present-day gaming.
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Wolverine holds about a 75% on GameRankings and Metacritic, and the majority of the reviews did mention the repetitiveness of the game. Saying it was "loved" by "just about everyone" is a pretty big overstatement.
Come on, now. No need to try to defend a game that clearly has flaws, especially since your "evidence" does nothing to prove your "point".
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Your attempt to take the high road just makes you look like a total douche. Especially considering you have no actual argument against what I'm saying.
And I'm not defending just this game. I'm arguing against the idea that "repetition is not acceptable." It's in every game out there. It's in every shooter. Every game you have enjoyed in the last month, is very likely "mindlessly repetitive." Your tastes didn't "evolve" or "change," you just arbitrarily decided it was okay for some games and not okay for others.
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Another example...Street FighterIV...hyped, loved in the reviews and guess what, it's Street Fighter EX2 with better graphics, more characters and gameplay tweaks. What does Capcom do...announce Super Street FighterIV Turbo HD, Custom, Hyper, Solid, Fat Toad, Looks like your Mom, Edition... milking it for all its worth.
BlazBlue and KoF....er'...45 are the true fighters that should be held in high regard.
After playing Turtles in Time on PSN, I could go for Spyborgs...after I'm finished getting platinum in Batman: AA
Oh well
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"repitition" is not the problem, its poor design. ive said this time and time again, people wont have a problem with doing the same thing over and over, if what they are doing is really satisfying. streets of rage 2 is regarded one of the best beat em ups of all time for that reason.. sure you were going up against swarms and swarms of the same enemies, but the mechanics and design was so good, you had fun doing it.
i mean really, its like left 4 dead or horde/firefight in gears/halo. although those games had some campaigns ppl talk about.. most people say odst is worth it for firefight.
firefight isnt that much fun alone imo, but with a friend or 2 (or 3), its a blast. same thing with 99% of the old beat em ups.
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I kind of wish some of the light-heartedness from the first pass had stuck around (almost like Uncharted). As it stands, it is a bit too "grrr, I am tough and might = right!" for my tastes.
Perhaps the end result will change my mind.
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Seems really fun. Hopefully it delivers.
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Also, I hope they announce the new TvC characters at GamesCom.
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You're probably mad because you can't get past the Yian Kut Ku in MH. ;)
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At least one person realized it was a flippin pun based on the activity that Capcom has planned.
I guess I was subconsciously asking for this reaction, though. I knew I was just begging to be taken seriously, so I shouldn't have been surprised when I *was* taken seriously.
egads.
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....FELLATIO!
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Your intelligence is a breath of fresh air, though. Maybe with you explaining this to the masses you can bring about the winds of change that will carry us to new heights.
Who am I kidding... They'll figure it out when pigs fly...
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I'd rather be shot in the air by Chun-Li's massive, sexy thighs...
But I guess this will be fun as well...
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@globones (not a mark, but a smark): Chun-Li would like a word with you, Mister. ;P
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@Mister_CrazyGuy: HYAKURETSUKYAKU