Question I haven't seen asked, and nobody will see me ask here, as I haven't got the Cool Kids star.
Wouldn't you have to leave your system on all the time you are out of the house?
I mean, sure, it could theoretically send out the startup signal like when you turn on a wireless 360 controller, but, Gamecube? Original Xbox? It wouldn't be able to turn those on.
So you'd pay $200, plus a (small) increase in your electricity costs, plus the cost of replacing your 360 frequently due to it's constant failures of being on all the time...
It's a bit on the pricey side for what it does, but I am interested. As it is, I have two consoles and never play them. My playing time is in the evening when my wife wants to watch TV. So I play on my PC. If I had this, I would actually play some of those console games I have collecting dust.
@svenhoek Supports the Steelers: She's tried gaming, but it's just not for her. In particular she has problems with games that have a lot of motion. We play the Boom Blox and Wii Play together every now and then, but I can only do that so much.
In the UK this would be redundant. Half of us are 'happy' (read lucky) to get 1.5 MB connections. I am sure there are plenty of other countries in a similar position infrastructure-wise. Are you telling me this would stream 30/60 fps games at 720P?
Okay, this might actually be nice to have. Imagine this. There's a tv in the living room, the kitchen, the game room, my bedroom, and the other bedroom. Imagine being able to play games anywhere in the house, without needing to unhook the system and move it.
I love it, but I can hardly do remote desktop from one computer to the next. Not sure what the performance is like here.
Exactly. You see this ALL the time in the IT industry. An answer to a question no one has posed, or is really interested in knowing.
...nevermind. Watched the video as I typed this. It's actually a pretty cool device. But it's 50 dollars cool. Not a hefty 230 dollars cool.
The Spawn Labs guy's comments regarding internet latency strikes me as overly optimistic at best. But in video games where split seconds count, the added latency of introduced by the net can be a killer.
Hi Folks - It looks like there is a great deal of misunderstanding of the product in this set of comments. Sure you could buy one of your friends another console, and buy them the same game you're playing, and buy them a subscription to Xbox Live, for example. But do you want to buy 10 of your friends all of that? If you spend $200 one time, you can: (1) let any/all of your friends - not just one - play remotely with you on your console and any game on that console while you play natively on your console; (2) play anywhere around your house if the TV is tied up; (3) play your games on your consoles remotely while at school, coffee shop, airport, whatever, including not just DVD but anything loaded on the hard drive; (4) record your console gameplay as video clips; etc. I think there is a lot more to this product than folks are noticing with a cursory glance. Before you dismiss it, suggest you research it further, or wait for hands-on reviews from respected gaming media. Several of the top 10-15 game development companies have placed orders for this product after hands-on experience with it...
1. Or, you could bring your game over to their house, as well as your gamertag (hence, your xbox live subscription
2. You could save 200 dollars, get much less latency AND be able to change your games by bringing your console over
3. If your selling point is having person a, with no xbox, play with you on your xbox, then thats actually a pretty good idea. But then the problem goes back to the old age issue of no voice chat unless you're willing to rigamarole some sort of voip through your computer, or want to sit on the phone. We're not in the dark ages of broadband, anymore.
4. Playing games off the hard drive is fun, theres some good ones, no doubt. But for 200 dollars, you're more expensive than a handheld gaming system, which doesn't require a coffee house or computer at all. Then you would say 'but games! you would have to buy them! and carry them around!'. Well, sure, but you have to buy them for consoles, and flash cards would negate the luggage.
5. The ability to record is neat, and would actually interest me
6. Are you expecting someone to carry a usb controller in their pocket at all times for the experience of being able to play something off their 360's hard drive at home when they're near a computer with broadband
These are legitimate concerns. Not just complaints. If your price point wasn't 200+ bucks, maybe a lot of these would be eliminated. But thats an awfully inconvenient price for what you could get with that kind of money, as well as how niche the usefulness would be.
Actually might get this. I currently don't have a desktop(just an insanely beefy laptop, heh), so I can't hook my 360 up to my PC. The TV in my room which my 360 is hooked up to is really shitty and kirks out alot (distortion+tiny screen).
On that note, if anyone has any alternative solutions to hooking my 360 up to my lap top, please tell me. I have an S-Video, Coaxil, and DVI input.
@[ZTF]Is my Name: Sorry to explode your bubble, but the vga, dvi and S video are all OUTPUT. there are very very very few laptops that have video INput.
@Ur-Lord-Crypy: I have two S-Vdeo Ports on my laptop: A four pronged port and a seven pronged port. I was assured by my tecchy friend that one of these was an input.
I understand that I'm asking for help here, but please assume I know a little about what we're talking about.
@Mike Newlad: thats easy
i use the digital sound adapter for 360 (include in the elite version) there put in my sound system via cinc and play on my dvi monitor via the hdmi cable very easy
No offense to Luke who wrote this article, or the guy who came up with the product, but its absolutely retarded.
You know what costs about 210 dollars less? Using a VGA adapter on that unused VGA connection on the back of your monitor. Assuming you have your PC hooked up through DVI or HDMI.
And would you really want to be sitting at your computer to play console games? I thought the whole point of the console was the remove yourself from the computer. You DO know that the 360 wired controller is USB and can plug right into your PC, if you should choose to do so? PS3 so you can take advantage of your high def small monitor?
Once again, I get the idea, having your consoles games in the living room stream wirelessly to your computer in the basement... but unless you've got wireless controllers (good luck, PS2, with your unofficial ones) or the need to trick yourself into saying 'I'm a console gamer who plays my console games on a PC'... then I really don't see the point.
And to counter the 'but my computer monitor is so much better than my TV!', well, thats 200 dollars you could spend buying a decent monitor+VGA adapter for your systems, or get a better TV.
@Komrade Kayce: The whole point of the setup is remote play.
Let's say you go over to a friend's place and they don't have a 360. With this setup you could theoretically play 360 games on his computer. Or if you're traveling and only have your laptop, in theory you could play console games on the go as opposed to only having access to handheld/PC games. The basic idea seems to be providing more portability to your PS2/3/360/Wii/whatever, not just playing your console games on a PC. As long as you have access to a broadband connection and a PC, console gaming, even multiplayer console gaming, is theoretically possible.
Now while I'm skeptical of how well the product works, it looks like Luke either missed or forgot to mention that the real attraction of this setup is the ability to take your PS360Wii games anywhere there's a computer.
Oh, I've read it. It just seems like an utterly useless product. If you can play games on your PC, play games on your PC. If you want to be out of the house playing your console games on your laptop... uh... why not just play games on the laptop?
Also:
"When someone else is watching the TV at home, you can go to a different room in the house, plug your gamepad into a USB port on your computer,"
Sounds like fun for your gamecube controllers.
Thanks for taking the time to read the specifications/features of the product before responding.
But once again, unless you're intending to play all arcade games (because of whats stored on the system)... how would this be a useful spending of money?
@Skitch: By stating the obvious downfalls to the cost+actual practical use of being able to play a single game you left in the system anywhere on the road which involves buying a gamepad or adapter for your PC as well AND will be in a lower resolution than anything your laptop could possibly run AND will require the use of someones broadband, issues that exist even when completely removing home use from the equation?
Sorry, I'll try to turn my brain off next time so we can be buds.
@Komrade Kayce: Because being condescending is a great way to defend that your initial post didn't seem to even hint that you read anything more than the article.
I didn't realize your brain was even on in the first place.
@Komrade Kayce: Believe it or not, there are thousands of people that want just that. The world does not revolve around your needs. What you find retarded is probably perfect for someone else.
This is just a box that streams your game through a network, enabling you to play your shit remotely. I know at least two people that would rather have that than moving their console from one room to the other just so they can keep playing their game. Sure, you can probably buy another console for an extra $100, but who cares?
Again, no one is forcing you to get this. The only thing that's retarded really, is the way you're acting... Just relax.
It just seems like a useless waste of plastic. And I'm not getting mad, so much as thinking this is a completely stupid idea and waste of money. Did it become a crime to call something stupid and useless? You know what else is stupid and useless? Those system coolers for the 360, the ones that draw their power supply from the back of the unit.
When theres so many better ways to spend 200 dollars, its a little upsetting to see companies preying off ignorance or a novelty. But based on the reaction of 95 percent of the comments here, I was incorrect in thinking that people would think 'awesome!'. My mistake was in not giving my fellows enough credit. Credit given, mistake apologized for.
Personally, I'd rather free up my network bandwidth for playing online and would rather put that 200 bucks into another console instead. Perhaps, a console right beside where I'm playing, so I don't have to walk elsewhere to change games?
I didn't even think of the 'buying a whole 'nother console' argument. Thanks.
@Komrade Kayce: It's perfectly cool to dislike the whatchamacallit and call it dumb. But as soon as someone starts throwing personal insults, it all degrades into a childish waste of time. Even though it wasn't directed at me, I was pretty pissed off to see "Sorry, I'll try to turn my brain off next time so we can be buds. " Not acceptable. And Skitch, you used the same thing back at him? I'm having a hard time imagining either of you being over the age of 15 right now.
Again, to you and me, this is definitely a useless device. Complete waste of money. Garbage. But... It's a perfect tool for others.
Ever heard of streammygames.com? It's pretty similar to that in a sense. There are plenty of people that use that service, and I can understand its appeal.
No one read the specification did they? The main attraction to this is REMOTE PLAY not to play around your house. The part where it acts as a remote play service should had been mention.
This allows you to access your game system from any computer (for example, a laptop in a free wi-fi area) and play your console. Though how it'll operate regarding speed is still up in the air. So imagine you being in University and one of your teacher didn't come so you have like 2 hours free, if you have your system connected to this you can go to a hot-spot area, turn on your laptop and play remotely
Again the main selling point of this is REMOTE PLAY and not a way to play the system via the computer on your house (which you can do, but is not the main point of this system).
Here is a copy/paste of the Remote Play feature:
Remote Access On the Road (Internet)
You can also play your console games when you are on the road from any location where you have broadband Internet access. The quality of the game video will depend on the uplink bandwidth on your home network (to which the Spawn HD-720 is attached), as well as the downlink bandwidth of your remote Internet connection. Whichever network has less bandwidth will set your limit. When traveling, many gamers will be better off playing in standard definition due to bandwidth constraints, and the Spawn HD-720 can automatically down-scale the HD video from your game console to translate it into standard definition video, delivering an enjoyable gaming experience on the road.
You gonna call home and tell them to put a different game in the system? If you've got a laptop cabable of streaming video like that, it'll probably play games too, yanno.
@Komrade Kayce: You could play your XBL/VC/PSN games if you don't want to play the one currently in your DVD. This gives you complete access to your Xbox/PS3/Wii, etc.
Is a good idea, but it indeed has his flaws. One being the whole DVD thing (so just keep a game you currently playing on it)...the other will be the most crucial and important to it and that is how it handles lag.
The line that mentions to play the games in SD to maximize function doesn't paint a good picture on how it'll handle lag. Was just pointing out that the system is made for something else.
@haran_elessar: if you can count it, you use many
if you can't then you use much.
for example milk, you can't say give me one milk please.
So you use much more milk.
or for example with "fun"
"it is much more fun this way"
if you can count games (which you can), you say many more games.
@haran_elessar: Basically, "many" is used for plural nouns (usually things you can count). Like games, or stores, or people ("many more stores", "many more people", etc.). "Much" is used for singular nouns (usually ones where the object in question is being increased in magnitude, not number), like "money" or "fun" or "work". So Owen can say that this would let him play "many, many more games" and that it would let him have "much, much more fun" (since fun is singular and the plural doesn't really exist). Note that you typically to use the plural form if it exists and you're referring to actually having more of a given item, so you can't say "much, much more game" unless the size of the game is actually increasing.
I'm not a grammarian, but that's generally how it's used. Oh, and in case it wasn't clear, using just "many" versus "many, many" is only a matter of emphasis, not function.
Who's going to pay $200 because they like a keyboard and mouse interface on top of the console itself. I can't figure out why this is being made, it's like there trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
I like playing on my gaming desk, I hate gaming on a couch. I'd like my PS3 to go back to the living room as a bluray player hooked up to my hdtv so that I can watch my movies there.
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Wouldn't you have to leave your system on all the time you are out of the house?
I mean, sure, it could theoretically send out the startup signal like when you turn on a wireless 360 controller, but, Gamecube? Original Xbox? It wouldn't be able to turn those on.
So you'd pay $200, plus a (small) increase in your electricity costs, plus the cost of replacing your 360 frequently due to it's constant failures of being on all the time...
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Or be more diplomatic. Maybe buy a game you both might enjoy together?
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Then you sir are a liar.
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I love it, but I can hardly do remote desktop from one computer to the next. Not sure what the performance is like here.
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*ed- I guess people have offered some decent reasons.
The price tag isn't really winning me over, though.
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Exactly. You see this ALL the time in the IT industry. An answer to a question no one has posed, or is really interested in knowing.
...nevermind. Watched the video as I typed this. It's actually a pretty cool device. But it's 50 dollars cool. Not a hefty 230 dollars cool.
The Spawn Labs guy's comments regarding internet latency strikes me as overly optimistic at best. But in video games where split seconds count, the added latency of introduced by the net can be a killer.
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1. Or, you could bring your game over to their house, as well as your gamertag (hence, your xbox live subscription
2. You could save 200 dollars, get much less latency AND be able to change your games by bringing your console over
3. If your selling point is having person a, with no xbox, play with you on your xbox, then thats actually a pretty good idea. But then the problem goes back to the old age issue of no voice chat unless you're willing to rigamarole some sort of voip through your computer, or want to sit on the phone. We're not in the dark ages of broadband, anymore.
4. Playing games off the hard drive is fun, theres some good ones, no doubt. But for 200 dollars, you're more expensive than a handheld gaming system, which doesn't require a coffee house or computer at all. Then you would say 'but games! you would have to buy them! and carry them around!'. Well, sure, but you have to buy them for consoles, and flash cards would negate the luggage.
5. The ability to record is neat, and would actually interest me
6. Are you expecting someone to carry a usb controller in their pocket at all times for the experience of being able to play something off their 360's hard drive at home when they're near a computer with broadband
These are legitimate concerns. Not just complaints. If your price point wasn't 200+ bucks, maybe a lot of these would be eliminated. But thats an awfully inconvenient price for what you could get with that kind of money, as well as how niche the usefulness would be.
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On that note, if anyone has any alternative solutions to hooking my 360 up to my lap top, please tell me. I have an S-Video, Coaxil, and DVI input.
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My solution would probably be to pick up a newer monitor rather than this though. Look for one with HDMI
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I have an optical port on my laptop but I'm not sure if it's input or output (or if there is even a difference). Would that work?
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I understand that I'm asking for help here, but please assume I know a little about what we're talking about.
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i use the digital sound adapter for 360 (include in the elite version) there put in my sound system via cinc and play on my dvi monitor via the hdmi cable very easy
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You know what costs about 210 dollars less? Using a VGA adapter on that unused VGA connection on the back of your monitor. Assuming you have your PC hooked up through DVI or HDMI.
And would you really want to be sitting at your computer to play console games? I thought the whole point of the console was the remove yourself from the computer. You DO know that the 360 wired controller is USB and can plug right into your PC, if you should choose to do so? PS3 so you can take advantage of your high def small monitor?
Once again, I get the idea, having your consoles games in the living room stream wirelessly to your computer in the basement... but unless you've got wireless controllers (good luck, PS2, with your unofficial ones) or the need to trick yourself into saying 'I'm a console gamer who plays my console games on a PC'... then I really don't see the point.
And to counter the 'but my computer monitor is so much better than my TV!', well, thats 200 dollars you could spend buying a decent monitor+VGA adapter for your systems, or get a better TV.
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Let's say you go over to a friend's place and they don't have a 360. With this setup you could theoretically play 360 games on his computer. Or if you're traveling and only have your laptop, in theory you could play console games on the go as opposed to only having access to handheld/PC games. The basic idea seems to be providing more portability to your PS2/3/360/Wii/whatever, not just playing your console games on a PC. As long as you have access to a broadband connection and a PC, console gaming, even multiplayer console gaming, is theoretically possible.
Now while I'm skeptical of how well the product works, it looks like Luke either missed or forgot to mention that the real attraction of this setup is the ability to take your PS360Wii games anywhere there's a computer.
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Oh, I've read it. It just seems like an utterly useless product. If you can play games on your PC, play games on your PC. If you want to be out of the house playing your console games on your laptop... uh... why not just play games on the laptop?
Also:
"When someone else is watching the TV at home, you can go to a different room in the house, plug your gamepad into a USB port on your computer,"
Sounds like fun for your gamecube controllers.
Thanks for taking the time to read the specifications/features of the product before responding.
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Even then, I feel you're grossly downplaying the features of this device.
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But once again, unless you're intending to play all arcade games (because of whats stored on the system)... how would this be a useful spending of money?
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Sorry, I'll try to turn my brain off next time so we can be buds.
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I didn't realize your brain was even on in the first place.
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No, I just completely ignored a novelty aspect of the product that needed no rationalization as to why it was stupid.
Kind of like why I left it at your brain being turned off, and didn't go any further.
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It's not my fault you can't clearly demonstrate that you've read more than you claimed to.
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This is just a box that streams your game through a network, enabling you to play your shit remotely. I know at least two people that would rather have that than moving their console from one room to the other just so they can keep playing their game. Sure, you can probably buy another console for an extra $100, but who cares?
Again, no one is forcing you to get this. The only thing that's retarded really, is the way you're acting... Just relax.
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It just seems like a useless waste of plastic. And I'm not getting mad, so much as thinking this is a completely stupid idea and waste of money. Did it become a crime to call something stupid and useless? You know what else is stupid and useless? Those system coolers for the 360, the ones that draw their power supply from the back of the unit.
When theres so many better ways to spend 200 dollars, its a little upsetting to see companies preying off ignorance or a novelty. But based on the reaction of 95 percent of the comments here, I was incorrect in thinking that people would think 'awesome!'. My mistake was in not giving my fellows enough credit. Credit given, mistake apologized for.
Personally, I'd rather free up my network bandwidth for playing online and would rather put that 200 bucks into another console instead. Perhaps, a console right beside where I'm playing, so I don't have to walk elsewhere to change games?
I didn't even think of the 'buying a whole 'nother console' argument. Thanks.
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Again, to you and me, this is definitely a useless device. Complete waste of money. Garbage. But... It's a perfect tool for others.
Ever heard of streammygames.com? It's pretty similar to that in a sense. There are plenty of people that use that service, and I can understand its appeal.
Anyway, the post has been updated with a video...
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This allows you to access your game system from any computer (for example, a laptop in a free wi-fi area) and play your console. Though how it'll operate regarding speed is still up in the air. So imagine you being in University and one of your teacher didn't come so you have like 2 hours free, if you have your system connected to this you can go to a hot-spot area, turn on your laptop and play remotely
Again the main selling point of this is REMOTE PLAY and not a way to play the system via the computer on your house (which you can do, but is not the main point of this system).
Here is a copy/paste of the Remote Play feature:
Remote Access On the Road (Internet)
You can also play your console games when you are on the road from any location where you have broadband Internet access. The quality of the game video will depend on the uplink bandwidth on your home network (to which the Spawn HD-720 is attached), as well as the downlink bandwidth of your remote Internet connection. Whichever network has less bandwidth will set your limit. When traveling, many gamers will be better off playing in standard definition due to bandwidth constraints, and the Spawn HD-720 can automatically down-scale the HD video from your game console to translate it into standard definition video, delivering an enjoyable gaming experience on the road.
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You gonna call home and tell them to put a different game in the system? If you've got a laptop cabable of streaming video like that, it'll probably play games too, yanno.
Neat, but flawed, idea.
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Is a good idea, but it indeed has his flaws. One being the whole DVD thing (so just keep a game you currently playing on it)...the other will be the most crucial and important to it and that is how it handles lag.
The line that mentions to play the games in SD to maximize function doesn't paint a good picture on how it'll handle lag. Was just pointing out that the system is made for something else.
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English is my second language and I'm used to seeing "many, many more" followed by a noun. Is there any sort of difference with both phrases?
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if you can't then you use much.
for example milk, you can't say give me one milk please.
So you use much more milk.
or for example with "fun"
"it is much more fun this way"
if you can count games (which you can), you say many more games.
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I'm not a grammarian, but that's generally how it's used. Oh, and in case it wasn't clear, using just "many" versus "many, many" is only a matter of emphasis, not function.
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@DouglasJayFalcon: Hi.
I like playing on my gaming desk, I hate gaming on a couch. I'd like my PS3 to go back to the living room as a bluray player hooked up to my hdtv so that I can watch my movies there.
So the problem exists.
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Okay, so I get your problem, but then again, aren't blu-ray players by themselves attainable for around 200 bucks from walmart?
How far away is your living room? Your controllers will still have to reach the system, supposedly.
200 dollars is just overkill for something that will have very limited ranges of usefulness.
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