Us PS3 owners get Yakuza 3... I mean, Nights is great(?), but it's sonic team, they'll likely f it up like they have every sonic game they've done since Adventure 1.
I'm perfectly happy with Yakuza 3 and Valkyria Chronicles, and I'm sure the 360 has a few exclusives that are better than stuff Sonic team puts out.
As one of the few people who actually owned the original Nights on Sega Saturn, I don't understand the hype for this game. It was a mediocre on-rails platformer with horrible music. Now, a new Burning Rangers ...
@ Strangelove: I do NOT want a new Burning rangers game. Seeing how Sonic team have f**ked up so many games over the past few years, they'd only f**k up Burning rangers too.
NiGHTS: Journey of dreams being on PS3 and 360 and having HD graphics would not have made the game any better. The game was crap through and through. The game was just bad from the ground up and no amount of specular shine, normal mapping or 1080dp output could mask that.
NiGHTS was a game that Sega should've left alone. Some games are better off being remembered as being a great stand alone game, as opposed to getting sequels - even though many want it. Sega should've just re-released the original on Virtual console, PSN and Xbox Live if anything.
It was a shame. Because I think even though the Wii doesn't have the graphical clout of the PS3 or 360 - it was the perfect system for the game. Too bad Sonic team f**ked it up and that they're nowhere near as good as they were during the days of the Saturn.
They messed up NiGHTS: Journey into dream so bad and keep messing up Sonic games in such a fashion - that I'm no longer jonesing for a Burning rangers sequel. They'd only taint how awesome the original was with some rushed, slap dash sequel.
@Random J: This is why I am more in favor of Sonic Team dissolving, and Yuji Naka's Prope getting first crack at the Sonic Team projects.
Yuji, regardless of what people think of him, seems exacting to what he envisions for the games that HIS Sonic Team created. While he might have staff that isn't always happy with him, the products made were more often instant gold.
SOLDIER_CLE'S "THEORY OF SEGA COMEBACK" Yuji + Sonic Team projects on Prope - Bullshit timeframe to "churn and burn" = EPIC WINNING GAMES + Blast from past x new innovation.
Soldier_CLE says DON'T STOP AT THE STAR! REVOKE THE WHOLE DAMN THING, OWEN!!! was starred
Soldier_CLE says DON'T STOP AT THE STAR! REVOKE THE WHOLE DAMN THING, OWEN!!! was unstarred
Instead of talking about what went wrong with the latest iteration of NiGHTs, I'd just like to say that I would love for Prope to get the next crack at NiGHTs.
The way Yuji would've made the sequel. On the system of his choice. No deadline.
Let him create the masterpiece that NiGHTS can be and was for us original NiGHTS players.
Soldier_CLE says DON'T STOP AT THE STAR! REVOKE THE WHOLE DAMN THING, OWEN!!! was starred
Soldier_CLE says DON'T STOP AT THE STAR! REVOKE THE WHOLE DAMN THING, OWEN!!! was unstarred
People, people, PEOPLE. Do not simply slander Sega's name like that as a whole. Aside from Sonic Team, they've actually been giving us GOOD GAMES as of late. Or have you forgotten that they both saved Clover Studio (now Platinum Games) and The Conduit from the world of non-publishing. Also, both Yakuza and Valkyria Chronicles have been kicking ass and taking names. Just because they own Sonic Team and Secret Level, it doesn't mean their whole company is made out of shit.
Sega goes where the money is because you know they need it with the crap they shovel out. The people on the Wii are probably the only ones willing to pay for this stuff.
You seem to have completely missed my point, which, judging by your poor grammar, seems very likely.
My point wasn't that Wii owners are any better. My point was that MaximusDM made a stupid rationalization about Wii owners. And then, in order to mimic the stupidity and mock him, I made a stupid generalization about 360 and PS3 owners.
Do you get it now? Because I don't think I can simplify it any more for you.
They could release this game on the Playstation 7 and it'll be a bad game. The problems with NIGHTS are basically a overall bad design they need more time to work on this not a powerful system.
Why doesn't this post cover the rest of the post, that says how Sonic Team is basically operating as a sweatshop for Sonic games, cranking out a new title per year?
I don't think this should be classified as a "Rumor". I believe the guy really did work at Sega, and that his information is accurate. As evidence, in the last paragraph, he predicted Sonic Unleashed a year before its announcement.
For one reason or another, he COULD be lying. Unless it's some high up Sega exec confirming this story (which they never will), we really don't know if it's true. Is it possible? Sure. Is it likely? Maybe. But we really don't know.
Terrible. Granted, even in HD, the same gameplay would have been received with a collective "meh" but at least the game should have been given more than another year to be complete, if this is all true.
Same really...Monster Hunter 3? Would rather have that on PS3.
Nights? Would rather have that on 360
Tatsunoko vs Capcom? Can we get that in the US? I don't even care if it's on Wii. I'd play that before Street FighterIV.
Castlevania: Judgement? Should have never been made
@Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN: Tatsunoko vs. Capcom not being released in the US is not a issue of being on the Wii, it's an issue of anime localization companies wanting a share of profits on merchandise based on properties they licensed. Blame ADV and Manga Entertainment, not Nintendo.
@NeoChaos: "sigh" yes I know this. The same reason why Jump Superstars never got an official release in the states. But if you read what I typed, that statement was all about how
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Of course it would look better and have better online on 360 or ps3, but I've seen enough video of it to see that it's fucking awesome. I want it...that's all I'm saying in that regard.
@Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN: Resident Evil 4 Wii Ed.? First port of a non-arcade video game to be superior to the original in just about every possible aspect. And one which many would consider the best game of the previous gen no less.
@L: uh...no it's not better in every possible aspect. Stop drinking drinking the Koolade my friend. RE4 on Wii has superior controls than the GC version and includes the addition content of the PS2 version. That's it. It didn't have an updated graphics engine, reworked textures or better models. It was the same damn game with better controls.
Mind you, those controls are so good to the point I have no idea why Wii isn't getting a true sequel to RE4. I can't imagine going back to dual analog on PS3 or 360.
As far as being the best game of the last gen...are you fucking kidding me? Sorry but God of War II, Devil May Cry, Metroid Prime, Knights of the Old Republic and a shit load of other games would contest that.
RE4 is a great game that relaunched a franchise but can we stop it with the nonsense about it being the best ever? It's stupid. RE4=great game. Greatest ever? Not by a long shot.
Said that sonic team was "bored, weary, closed-minded and out of touch with any sense of what makes games good anymore." well atleast SOMEONE at SEGA noticed. lord knows we Sonic fans have been screaming it for years, Jesus SEGA just sell the sonic liscense to Nintendo already you obviously don't give a hit.
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I'm perfectly happy with Yakuza 3 and Valkyria Chronicles, and I'm sure the 360 has a few exclusives that are better than stuff Sonic team puts out.
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NiGHTS was a game that Sega should've left alone. Some games are better off being remembered as being a great stand alone game, as opposed to getting sequels - even though many want it. Sega should've just re-released the original on Virtual console, PSN and Xbox Live if anything.
It was a shame. Because I think even though the Wii doesn't have the graphical clout of the PS3 or 360 - it was the perfect system for the game. Too bad Sonic team f**ked it up and that they're nowhere near as good as they were during the days of the Saturn.
They messed up NiGHTS: Journey into dream so bad and keep messing up Sonic games in such a fashion - that I'm no longer jonesing for a Burning rangers sequel. They'd only taint how awesome the original was with some rushed, slap dash sequel.
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Yuji, regardless of what people think of him, seems exacting to what he envisions for the games that HIS Sonic Team created. While he might have staff that isn't always happy with him, the products made were more often instant gold.
SOLDIER_CLE'S "THEORY OF SEGA COMEBACK" Yuji + Sonic Team projects on Prope - Bullshit timeframe to "churn and burn" = EPIC WINNING GAMES + Blast from past x new innovation.
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The way Yuji would've made the sequel. On the system of his choice. No deadline.
Let him create the masterpiece that NiGHTS can be and was for us original NiGHTS players.
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You're probably right.
PS3 owners don't buy games.
360 owners only buy FPSs.
See, I can make stupid assumptions too.
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Are you saying WII owners are any better?
If 360 owners only buy fps how come RPG sell very well on the 360 look at Fable 2 and Fallout 3.
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You seem to have completely missed my point, which, judging by your poor grammar, seems very likely.
My point wasn't that Wii owners are any better. My point was that MaximusDM made a stupid rationalization about Wii owners. And then, in order to mimic the stupidity and mock him, I made a stupid generalization about 360 and PS3 owners.
Do you get it now? Because I don't think I can simplify it any more for you.
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A lot of people who I trust love it, though.
I think it's an acquired taste.
Still, I'm not sure which platform would've been better or worse. Credit where due, NIGHTS looked pretty good.
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For one reason or another, he COULD be lying. Unless it's some high up Sega exec confirming this story (which they never will), we really don't know if it's true. Is it possible? Sure. Is it likely? Maybe. But we really don't know.
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Funny, the 360 and PS3 fanbase seem to have the same problem.
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Same really...Monster Hunter 3? Would rather have that on PS3.
Nights? Would rather have that on 360
Tatsunoko vs Capcom? Can we get that in the US? I don't even care if it's on Wii. I'd play that before Street FighterIV.
Castlevania: Judgement? Should have never been made
See how Wii has changed the industry?
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I
want
the
game
Of course it would look better and have better online on 360 or ps3, but I've seen enough video of it to see that it's fucking awesome. I want it...that's all I'm saying in that regard.
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Mind you, those controls are so good to the point I have no idea why Wii isn't getting a true sequel to RE4. I can't imagine going back to dual analog on PS3 or 360.
As far as being the best game of the last gen...are you fucking kidding me? Sorry but God of War II, Devil May Cry, Metroid Prime, Knights of the Old Republic and a shit load of other games would contest that.
RE4 is a great game that relaunched a franchise but can we stop it with the nonsense about it being the best ever? It's stupid. RE4=great game. Greatest ever? Not by a long shot.
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Also, is it worth the $15 that I can get it for now?
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lord knows we Sonic fans have been screaming it for years, Jesus SEGA just sell the sonic liscense to Nintendo already you obviously don't give a hit.
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Well, with their multiple publishing agreements, they've got a lot of good games upcoming.
MadWorld, The Conduit and Bayonetta to name a few.
Also, they made Valkyria Chronicles which is excellent.
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