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vnunes
07/27/09

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Always the same story..."we listened to feedback", "It won't suck this time". Seriously, most of the times, movie games suck not because the developers are bad at what they do, but because they don't have enought time. Unless the mentality that the game has to launch with the movie goes away, or they start working on the game waaaaaaay earlier (don't they start pre-production on those films years before?), I don't see the movie games scenario changing.
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buddhathing
07/27/09

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Since Iron Man is basically a mech, why not give this to a Japanese studio?
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ez054098
07/27/09

@(zombie) buddhathing: That would mean giving the game a shitty camera.
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ShadowOdin of dubious snowiness
07/27/09

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Are you saying a studio at Sega listened to criticism?

Get out of here.

These guys should be put in charge of Team Sonic so that they could realize Team Sonic needs to be disbanded for ever and ever.
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gold163 (° д° )
07/27/09

@ShadowOdin isn't american: If this was 2003 I would have smacked you and insisted that you give Sonic Team another chance.

But this is not 2003. Someone needs to take Sonic Team out back and put it out of its misery.
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(Zombie) Goldwings
07/27/09

@gold163 (° д° ): Too late. Someone already took Sonic out back and shot him 666 times before cloning him from his blood and a piece of turd.
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gold163 (° д° )
07/27/09

@(Zombie) Goldwings: No, I said Sonic Team. I have no doubt that Sega is using Sonic's shit-clone and not the real thing in his new games.
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Kobun
07/27/09

@gold163 (° д° ): Protip: Though they may look similar, you can tell the good Sonic from the bad one by the length of his legs.
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gold163 (° д° )
07/27/09

@Kobun: Also by the amount of goddamn secondary characters following him.
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ShadowOdin of dubious snowiness
07/27/09

@gold163 (° д° ): You forgot the part where the Sonic-clone needs to be in close proximity to humans to survive.
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buddhathing
07/27/09

@Kobun: @ gold163 (° д° ): @ShadowOdin isn't American: Sigh.
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gold163 (° д° )
07/27/09

@ShadowOdin isn't american: "Close proximity to humans"? Do you perhaps mean IMPLIED ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIPS???

Seriously, what the hell was with that.
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ShadowOdin of dubious snowiness
07/27/09

@gold163 (° д° ): I'm not sure, all I know is that once Sonic's lips touched that girl's, furries around the world fawned in unison.

How many games have there been without humans/humanoids excluding Robotnik/Breakfastman since they started with the Adventure-serie?
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gold163 (° д° )
07/27/09

@ShadowOdin isn't american: I didn't mind it in the Adventure series. I mean, Sonic Adventure 2 was great and gave a reason for that crap. But, since the Adventure series, I think only the Dimps games have excluded humans. Yet, it's always been implied that humans are somewhere in the background in the Sonic universe, destroying forests to build Starlight Zones... :P
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ShadowOdin of dubious snowiness
07/27/09

@gold163 (° д° ): I never liked the humans. They always seemed malplaced to me. And I disagree, because SA2 could've managed itself without them. Story was crap, after all.
To me, the ideal Sonic-world was always SatAM. It always made the most sense.
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Kobun
07/27/09

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The sad thing is the game could fix everything conceivably wrong with the first title but despite having a big name movie/comic license, it'll still struggle against all the heavy weights getting pushed into 2010 as it is. Funny how studios seemingly learn from last year's mistake only to create an entirely new problem.
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excel_excel
07/27/09

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The controls are based on the top 20 games out there?? in other words, Ironman 2 is an FPS set on Resort Island?? That would actually be better than what the game will turn out to be
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buddhathing
07/27/09

@excel_excel: That remark set off alarm bells bor me, too. How is that even possible? Answer: It's not, and if a company that knows their game has perception problems sends someone to to spout that kind of corporate nonsense, it doesn't bode well.
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glassdevaney
07/27/09

@excel_excel: Paraphrase: You didn't like it when we tried to do something different (God you're stupid), so now its going to be a clone of everything else out there, since that's all you seem to want, you chattering monkeys.

Yeah. That's what I got from his statement. Thanks for not being condescending. I'll be sure to buy your game over Bioshock 2, God of War III, Heavy Rain...
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excel_excel
07/27/09

@(zombie) buddhathing: exactly. how can you compare controls with what will be a third person action game to an FPS or sports games? its madness!
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excel_excel
07/27/09

@glassdevaney: Agreed. Also where he says "The good news is that everyone in the known universe told us what was wrong with the first game" its like he's complaining. well yeah they bloody should have told you becayse it was crap
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Spderweb
07/27/09

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this could go either way. I think the biggest issue is that it's a flying super hero. it's very difficult to make a game like that fun. Although in Japan, they have flying robot 3rd person games all the time and they do pretty well over there. I dunno... Probably play the demo and go from there.
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Wahrheit
07/27/09

@Spderweb:

What about Superman 64? I have never laughed so hard watching someone else play a game.
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PapaBear434
07/27/09

@Wahrheit:

That game did, indeed, suck. And I actually bought it back when I was 19, too.

But the Superman game that came out with Superman Returns wasn't bad. It had it's issues, like no collateral damage in massive battles between super powered beings, but the one thing they did absolutely great was the flight.

Flying though the air in that game really made you feel like Supes. Especially getting going real fast, watching the shock wave from the sonic boom roll off your shoulders, and watching the contrails off your cape combining with the dust on the ground and you blow through Main Street, Metropolis at speeds faster than a speeding bullet... That was some damn good fun there.
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Kicken
07/27/09

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How about letting the PC version be from the PS3/360 release rather than the PS2 release?

Hmm? Maybe?

Because, that would just be charming.
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excel_excel
07/27/09

@Kicken: oh god I remember seeing that. What a kick in the teeth that was.
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Showmeyomoves!
07/27/09

@Kicken: I played the PS3 demo. Trust me, HD graphics do nothing to improve the quality of this game.
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Kicken
07/27/09

@Showmeyomoves!:
I played the PS3 demo as well, and I thought (and I realize I'm probably he minority here) that the controls were awesome. But, then again, I prefer higher level of control to simple-and-dumb controls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKx3tTEhw6g&feature=related

It just reminds me of late 90's shooters on PC.
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gold163 (° д° )
07/27/09

@Kicken: Are you kidding? Late '90s shooters are fun. That looks terrible.
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Kicken
07/27/09

@gold163 (° д° ):
Some were fun, most were horrid.
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vr0oM
07/27/09

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How can the controls be based on 20 games?

This must be a FPS/RPG/Platform/Sports hybrid!
You've outdone yourselves this time, Sega... kudos!
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excel_excel
07/27/09

@vr0oM: Shoot got there before me!
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Showmeyomoves!
07/27/09

@vr0oM: But most (3rd person shooter) games use similar control schemes.
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USMarty
07/27/09

@vr0oM: And really, is it that hard to conceive? The top 20 games use A as the jump button...lets make A the jump button. Rt Trigger fires in most games...lets make rt the fire button....
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gold163 (° д° )
07/27/09

@USMarty: But what if in one of the top 20 games, the jump button is B??? WHAT WILL WE DO THEN??

And what if the top 14th game is an rpg, where A is "open party menu" and THERE IS NO JUMP BUTTON?? OMG DILEMMA
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Sergio Del Valle Clemente
07/27/09

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We will see if they really listened to everyone in the known universe in a few months...
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(Zombie) D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid!
07/27/09

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You would think it would be common sense to take peoples feedback and address the problems presented, sadly....this is rare indeed.

Good job Sega.
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Crude-Symbology
07/27/09

@D Mitsuki : Gotta have guts kid!: You would also think it common sense that a games company with as much experience as Sega ought to have a competent enough team, a sense of videogames and how to produce them, and enough quality testing to not make such a lacking game in the first place. They shouldn't need millions of people to point out obvious flaws, but at least they're learning from it.
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Kobun
07/27/09

@Crude-Symbology: Most of Sega's studios are MIA. Sega used to have a ton of development houses. Now everything seems contracted to new studios with Sega publishing.

I don't know how it got to this point. Everything past 2001 is a blur. :/
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gold163 (° д° )
07/27/09

@Kobun: Oh Sega, where did you go wrong?? It's that damned Sony with their Playstation 2 again, isn't it? I'd kick their ass, but I just love Metal Gear Solid 2 too much! Don't hate me!
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KillerBee
07/27/09

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It is going to take a lot more than controls and range fixes to fix the myriad of problems from the first game.

It was bland, empty, unfun and boring. Kill turrets, kill tanks, kill guys and fly to next little area to do it over and over. Exciting.
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(Zombie) D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid!
07/27/09

@KillerBee: I just thought it was kind of ironic, but can you imagine doing all that stuff you said in real life like that?

Suddenly, it's a adrenaline rush...
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Evdor
07/27/09

@KillerBee: My favorite part of the game was how the AI was so poor that if you stood RIGHT in front of them, like, in throw range, they would literally do nothing: They couldn't shoot you, but they didn't back away. It would turn the troopers (or tanks) into dolls, just waiting for whatever it was you were going to do.
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gold163 (° д° )
07/27/09

@D Mitsuki : Gotta have guts kid!: "Oh gosh, my real life is so boring, all I do is fly around using the little rocket boosters in my high-tech suit and shoot tanks and shit with rockets and save the world. I think I'm going to go play video games."
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KeeganTheBrain
07/27/09

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Good to see they're at least attempting to improve on the first.
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nrXic
07/27/09

@KeeganTheBrain: The visuals of the first were pretty good too. I'm glad to see that they are addressing all issues, from the core problems (controls) to issues that affected how fun it was (gameplay objectives).
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