Fair punishment, not to mention the video of them has made its rounds on the Internet, so embarrassment and retraining for playing a Wii on the job appears just. I mean, it would be an entirely different story if some of them thought it'd be a good idea during a shootout or actually restraining criminals. It was looking for evidence and like most people at their jobs do, they goofed off for a while.
I dunno, I've never had it in me to hate cops. Especially considering today a cop chose to pick the speeder in front of me instead of, well, my own speeding butt. #crime
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thats always awesome, I love when Im driving maybe paying attention a little less than I should then I see flashes up ahead of either the popo or some super high flash radar. #crime
@anduin1: Like, I literally went from 40 to 25 right beside the cop parked right beside the road. I was sure it would be me and that he'd come up and say, "Real subtle there, pal."
To this day, I've never received a ticket and I've been driving for about five years. #crime
@omgwtflolbbqbye: It doesn't look very professional, but I'm with you on this. As a citizen I really wouldn't care if the police in my city were "caught" doing something like this after a raid. Sometimes these guys are stuck waiting in places for hours at a time, who can blame them for trying to pass the time. #crime
@TexasJack: Agreed. Too many people are too hard on cops as a whole when in reality, they are essential to maintaining order and helping to prevent (and punish) violent crime in society. Sure, there are some corrupt ones, but they are not the majority. #crime
@TexasJack: Except for the fact that they're on the job, and are being paid by public tax dollars. They are working professionals and should strictly adhere to protocol. #crime
@hurpdurp: This is an interesting subject TBH. As someone that has suffered the short end of many bad cops, I have a disposition of hatred and distrust towards the police. But that said, I too have noticed how quickly people are to jump down the throats of cops and crucify them, when many times they did nothing wrong. It feels weird for me to defend those I despise so very much. =S
@Boomsta: LMAO I would shoot them, being Texan affords me that ability. >:D #crime
@Deaf Mute: I think that this falls under the category of something that we taxpayers all like to pretend doesn't happen. But realistically, people will mess up sometimes, expecting perfection is not realistic #crime
Pulling the video was a terrible idea, I'd wager that only a fraction of the people that know about the issue now would have watched that video if they had left it well alone. #modernwarfare2
@Asbestos_Underwear: I think it's a sequel of some PC game that came out a while ago, but then they released it on the consoles and they kinda forgot about the people that made them famous in the first place
Personally I find this hilarious. It's always the big company going after modders, nice to see the opposite for once even if it's sure to be rectified within a day or two. #modernwarfare2
It looks like activism on Joker's part, since I'm fairly positive you cannot in any way copyright or patent a game idea like that. Surely they didn't copy the AC-130 gunship model from an old mod, so there's very little that Joker could legally do. YouTube just doesn't have the time to look into every claim so your content becomes guilty until proven innocent.
I would guess that this is just to send a message to Infinity Ward, that hey, if you're going to benefit from the creative ideas of modders, don't shut them out completely by disallowing modded dedicated servers. #modernwarfare2
@CMay: How did IW benefit from his work? Did IW also steal ideas for the other killstreak rewards as well? Harrier, stealth bomber, chopper gunner, etc.?
The truth is, he was the one who used IW's work to put a hackjob of an AC130 into his mod. The assets he used came from the MW single player campaign. #modernwarfare2
@ChicagoRyan: Keep in mind I know absolutely nothing about his mod, so if his model wasn't original then ignore that bit. However, what I did already say is that IW has not legally stolen anything at all from Joker and that this is probably nothing more than activism over mods/modified servers allowing the sharing of an idea they're using.
I didn't say Joker was in the right, or that this is fantastic in any way, but it isn't unprecedented for people to argue over how much a commercial game benefits from player modifications without rewarding the player for them. Some ideas are really small, but make all the difference while other ideas are huge and just suck. Hard to measure. At least in this case, I'm sure Joker has no legal justification for anything and it's just harassment. #modernwarfare2
@CMay: If a think0tank can copyright the concept of an MMO, and Nintendo can copyright an IP, I see no reason why Joker can't make a copyright infringement argument about a unique piece of code that he wrote. #modernwarfare2
@illiniphase4: It doesn't sound like this is about code or models or any actual original copyrightable work. Their complaint is that the feature is influenced by a mod they made, but in reality his mod was likely influenced by the real military just as the game itself is.
This is a far cry from copyrighting an entire completed MMO, a logo, or a mario theme song. Even if they complain the implementation of the feature is too similar, it goes back to being inspired by the original influence.
There was an argument between 2 companies who developed 2 separate pool games, and one was crying that the other company stole their idea for how certain interface elements were displayed. The case was dismissed on the ground that you can't just copyright an idea like that and both of them had different code/art.
What you would have to do if you wanted to protect that kind of idea is file for a patent. However, patents have to live up to certain requirements and if they aren't sufficiently uncommon enough they will get laughed away. Good luck patenting the idea of an AC-130 gunship flying over an area and shooting things. Good luck patenting a life bar that simply visualizes an amount of progress. #modernwarfare2
@illiniphase4: No actually, I am not overlooking the the case of intellectual property. I was asserting that they wouldn't actually use his code for their replica, but now that you mention it he can't claim that case either. Putting aside the fact that there was no copyright infringement since Joker has no claim to any of the assets he used in his mod or the way in which he did use them, from a design standpoint he tweaked the ruleset for a game made by Infinity Ward. This isn't a Half-Life to Counter-Strike kind of mod we're talking about here.
It's not his property, but he gets kudos for making a spiffy mod which was recognized by the owners of the game he was modding, and being ballsey enough to humiliate them all over the gaming interwebs in a hilarious way. #modernwarfare2
The only way to protect your idea is to patent it which is not the case in here. Now, if IW used the code from the modder (copy paste) then the modder can challenge copyright infringement. If they didn't do it, read it as "cool idea, lets do this in our own way", then it is perfectly fine.
I am not a lawyer but i am a software developer and this is how it works. That is why people is afraid of Software Patents (which USA really wants to push) or Patents of trivial ideas, but this is topic for another discussion. #modernwarfare2
@TexasJack: I agree, I've played Joker's mod before and it's a heck of a piece of work and he had every right to get mad about it (edit: "it" being the kill streak). The sad part is none of this would have happened if IW had just kept dedicated servers and kept people happy...
@MrBounce: He really doesn't have any right to be mad. He doesn't own the game, he can't claim changes he made to the game as his property. #modernwarfare2
@MrBounce: It's not just the dedicated server issue though, it's the disallowing of mods too.
@SacGamer: And you just don't get it. Whether or not he owns the content is not the issue here. I don't think he would have cared if IW didn't basically piss in his face by taking his idea and not allowing any mods with MW2. #modernwarfare2
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I LIKE BOWLING #crime
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Don't make me dunk you.
Er, I mean, home run you.
Wait wait... hockey... eggbeater... uhh...
I waterpolo'ed your mom last night. #crime
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I'd give another pun but tennis enough. #crime
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What can I say? You hooked it. #crime
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I dunno, I've never had it in me to hate cops. Especially considering today a cop chose to pick the speeder in front of me instead of, well, my own speeding butt. #crime
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thats always awesome, I love when Im driving maybe paying attention a little less than I should then I see flashes up ahead of either the popo or some super high flash radar. #crime
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To this day, I've never received a ticket and I've been driving for about five years. #crime
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I think they earned their wii break and a slap on the wrist...
It's not like they were making snow angels in a big pile of cocaine.
I hope...
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I doubt those guys were. #crime
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I don't think there is anyone who actually works 100% of the time they are on the clock, if they are it is because they are a slave or robot.
Don't tell me you're an absolute productive employee who doesn't waste any time talking with co-workers, daydreaming, or browsing the net. #crime
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@Boomsta: LMAO I would shoot them, being Texan affords me that ability. >:D #crime
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@Derpitydoo: Hey, so does President Obama. #crime
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Excuse me while I go salvage my shattered faith in humanity. #modernwarfare2
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This is delicious. #modernwarfare2
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I would guess that this is just to send a message to Infinity Ward, that hey, if you're going to benefit from the creative ideas of modders, don't shut them out completely by disallowing modded dedicated servers. #modernwarfare2
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The truth is, he was the one who used IW's work to put a hackjob of an AC130 into his mod. The assets he used came from the MW single player campaign. #modernwarfare2
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I didn't say Joker was in the right, or that this is fantastic in any way, but it isn't unprecedented for people to argue over how much a commercial game benefits from player modifications without rewarding the player for them. Some ideas are really small, but make all the difference while other ideas are huge and just suck. Hard to measure. At least in this case, I'm sure Joker has no legal justification for anything and it's just harassment. #modernwarfare2
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And even if they did, there'd be no way to prove it. #modernwarfare2
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This is a far cry from copyrighting an entire completed MMO, a logo, or a mario theme song. Even if they complain the implementation of the feature is too similar, it goes back to being inspired by the original influence.
There was an argument between 2 companies who developed 2 separate pool games, and one was crying that the other company stole their idea for how certain interface elements were displayed. The case was dismissed on the ground that you can't just copyright an idea like that and both of them had different code/art.
What you would have to do if you wanted to protect that kind of idea is file for a patent. However, patents have to live up to certain requirements and if they aren't sufficiently uncommon enough they will get laughed away. Good luck patenting the idea of an AC-130 gunship flying over an area and shooting things. Good luck patenting a life bar that simply visualizes an amount of progress. #modernwarfare2
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It's not his property, but he gets kudos for making a spiffy mod which was recognized by the owners of the game he was modding, and being ballsey enough to humiliate them all over the gaming interwebs in a hilarious way. #modernwarfare2
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I am not a lawyer but i am a software developer and this is how it works. That is why people is afraid of Software Patents (which USA really wants to push) or Patents of trivial ideas, but this is topic for another discussion. #modernwarfare2
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@SacGamer: And you just don't get it. Whether or not he owns the content is not the issue here. I don't think he would have cared if IW didn't basically piss in his face by taking his idea and not allowing any mods with MW2. #modernwarfare2
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