I'd love to play it, but I got duped into prepurchasing on Steam. Awesome. Can't wait to not play it when I get home from work today.
(And before this starts an orgy of hatred again: Yes, I got it on PC, whoopdeedoo. And, yes, I didn't notice the staggered release on Steam because it had a countdown clock instead of an actual date when I prepurchased, and I just assumed it had the same release date like every single other Steam game I've ever bought.) #modernwarfare2
@Strangelove: Dude, big, green, inch thick bar with "Available: 12 November 2009" isn't exactly duping you.
And not all games release the same time on Steam, mainly due to retailers complaining about DD. So it's not safe to assume. #modernwarfare2
I think the lack of party chat should be mentioned also. I was palying with some friends last night and it makes the whole multiplayer system cumbersome. When you leave you all get disconnected and not reconnected to the party so you are losing communication all the time. It's a real downer and this is the only game that has ever done it and i think it is unecessary to strip away a console feature that i actually pay for.
Also i don't know whether it was mentioned before that spec ops is only 2 player which is quite annoyed because i thought it was going to be this games version of the zombie mode from WaW.
@Pyrefly: Sorry, i have both and i usually by big multi games on the 360 but in this case i found it really hard to choose which platform to go for #modernwarfare2
@Pyrefly: To be fair, you only get kicked from party chat for Headquarters and Search And Destroy, and even then, the screen says "You need to switch to game chat or else you will be kicked from the party". You're given a period of time to transfer, not an immediate boot.
Finally a review that I understand. Everything else is empty praise, high scores with no real explanation. Now I know why the game is good, and exactly what to expect.
Of course the game is overrated, but I still can't wait for my pre-ordered copy to get here, especially after reading this. Not expecting them to re-invent the wheel (they didn't with CoD4) or even touch Uncharted 2's story, storytelling and characters, but I know I'll have a blast with this online and co-op. Well into next year indeed. #modernwarfare2
An incoherent, short single player and the "Abandon All Hope Ye Noobs" section combine to make me think this game really isn't meant for me.
I've never played the original (I've had my 360 for less than a year and haven't wanted to shell out $40 for the game yet), and it sounds like that's almost a prerequisite here. I don't think I've seen the game for cheaper than that $40 price, which is a little odd - even Halo 3, the king of Live multiplayer, dropped to $5 at FYE thanks to an awesome rebate.
Designing a sequel with that much reliance on its predecessor doesn't seem like a smart idea to me. If I'm new to the series and I won't be able to understand what's going on and I'll just get killed over and over in multiplayer, why bother? That doesn't sound like an experience worth $60 to me. #modernwarfare2
@spiderweb1986: I'm with you on that. I have COD4 but never got around to finishing it and I was way too late to get on board with the multiplayer (through I bought it near launch when it was bundled with AC1 for $90- it just stayed in shrinkwrap for most of the year). Still, I suppose that's really a problem with the games popularity and the obsessiveness of gamers out there to play as much as they have to get as good as they are than with the actual game. I mean, what can they do? Make a noob only room? #modernwarfare2
After watching through the playthrough, I have to say I was pretty disappointed with the story. There were a few things that didn't make much sense. And by a few things I mean major plot points. #modernwarfare2
Excellent review, Mike. I know you've been working hard at it all day :)
I haven't gotten too far in yet but multiplayer is already quite frustrating, although I've mastered the art of getting my extra power after I've died over 3 times in a row! #modernwarfare2
I played "THE LEVEL" (anyone following the game should know what i'm talking about)I didnt find it disturbing in the least, the fact that the bodies on the floor had glitched into one comical pile, but I didnt feel the sombre mood take over, nor did I feel like this was truely worthy of so much shock and awe.I'm not saying those up in arms about it are wrong, completely the opposite.Its obvious SOME are going to be affected by this scene, and yes, you can skip it, (but who honestly will?).The level wasnt important enough, didnt set any sort of classy mood to the game to warrent including it for the sake of the games "story". #modernwarfare2
Edit: By the by, thats my opinion, if you felt otherwise, please share yours, just keep in mind i'm not trying to flame the game, I loved its gameplay and its multiplayer to death.
@Blore07: I've beent rying to explain this to people since it was first brought up- it's NOT going to have an impact. It's not going to be emotional or draw you into the setting and story.
It simply cannot- because if it did, they wouldn't be able to let you skip it. They had to sacrifice relevance to allow you to skip it, rendering the scenes pointless. #modernwarfare2
@Blore07: I think it was a failure tbh, IW could have delivered the same supposed 'shock' factor with a cut-scene. It struck me that one of the reasons it fails is that there's no, for lack of a better word, emotional investment in the character you play in that section of the game.
As Charlie Brooker said the other day; the plot's nonsensical, the terrorist scene neither made the story better nor added to the game as an experience (IMO naturally!:)) #modernwarfare2
@WhiteMage says fix the comments grr: From playing the entire single player, to be honest, I dont think they could have made it work anyway.
Liked the first games single player (liked, not loved) but I expected more from this, instead, I got a ridiculous story wrapped in pretentiousness (yeh, thats a word now!).
Still, I still love what we all bought the game for, multiplayer! #modernwarfare2
@TheVegetarianBurgerKing: Very true, I was sitting with a friend when he first played it, now, I've known this friend since I was in pre-school, best friends for over 25 years, to be honest, he's not very bright.
He is exactly the kind of person you expect that behaviour from (cant go an hour without teabagging someone on halo), instead, he was bored.
At the heart of it, the first half to that level, is incredibly boring. #modernwarfare2
@Blore07:
I didn't think it was that bad either, until I realised that one of the ambient crowd noises was a baby crying.
Admittedly, I only realised that after playing the level 3 times. The second due to my Xbox's disc drive dying at the end and me not realising that you can skip from the pause menu, the third out of curiosity to see if you actually have to shoot anyone, and you don't.
I think it's safe to say they were aiming to make the act seem very deliberate and incredibly evil, which was done pretty well, but a little more set up for it would have been good. A little more than "btw, here's this dude who's infiltrating these terrorist guys. You're him now, go pretend to be a bad guy" would have been nice. #modernwarfare2
@Blore07: This is exactly what I thought the whole time. I felt it was poorly executed. I mean, how am I supposed to get mad at the big ol' baddie when I'M doing the bad deeds? I just felt confused and frustrated. Not a great way of storytelling in my opinion.
A better and equally shocking way could have been first person view as a civilian, and when you die, you just shift to the next civilian's view, to make it seem terrifying and inescapable.
Or maybe the game could put you in the shoes of a security guard, shooting without effect at the armored baddies, who mow down your friends with ease. A role reversal from the player's normal army-killing romp.
I just never got into the plot. Thats not to say the first one, which I did get into, had better storytelling ideas or techniques. Its just it felt really new to me then, so I was interested in everything about it.
@crecente: As long as you were masticating and swallowing within your own abode I guess it's ok...of course, I'm concerned about Fahey listening to it... #modernwarfare2
Hhhmmmm Definitely considering picking one up then, even if it will be a while before I pick up the actual game. It's not like you can only use it with MW2 afterall... #modernwarfare2
Shame this isn't out on PC, might of picked one up.
Having a mic in front of your face can be a bit off putting sometimes.
Though I like using a headset for FPS, so I dunno...
Though I have an old mic headset lying about, hmm could be a good weekend project....
Edit: weekend project would involve turning a regular PC mic into a throat mic. not converting this to work on PC, this has the wrong type of connector for even a 2.5mm to 3.5mm to work. Hooray for propriety hardware.
@deanbmmv: Just do the simple thing, wear headphones and use a mic. I used to wear a cheap headset with a mic around my neck and my good headphones around my head.
The jack just looks like a mini jack. You should be fine connecting it to your computer with either a adapter, or just cut the wire and make two 1/4'' jacks. #modernwarfare2
@Shin: We sure it'd have to work?
360 controller just registers as a HID device, not a sound device. I't'd be annoyingly redundant too having to hook up a 360 control pad, then hook this up with the controller hanging off your neck while playing games. #modernwarfare2
@deanbmmv: It's the same mini-headphone jack cell-phones use, it just has an extra band on it to seperate the mic input from the shared ground. #modernwarfare2
@deanbmmv: Yes, but if you were to cut the wire you would see a wire for the mic, and a wire for the earpiece. A converter would do this too except be more expensive. #modernwarfare2
@deanbmmv: Yes, I would guess the wires would be pretty thin. My solution would be to buy a female minijack connector and wire it that way. Length can be fixed with a extender.
Either way, it won't be long till we see some better quality PC ones showing up. #modernwarfare2
@deanbmmv: all I can say is that 360 mics are recognised as usb audio on win xp when hooked up (or "paired" in my case as I have a wireless mic) to a 360 controller. #modernwarfare2
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(And before this starts an orgy of hatred again: Yes, I got it on PC, whoopdeedoo. And, yes, I didn't notice the staggered release on Steam because it had a countdown clock instead of an actual date when I prepurchased, and I just assumed it had the same release date like every single other Steam game I've ever bought.) #modernwarfare2
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@Strangelove: Dude, big, green, inch thick bar with "Available: 12 November 2009" isn't exactly duping you.
And not all games release the same time on Steam, mainly due to retailers complaining about DD. So it's not safe to assume. #modernwarfare2
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Also i don't know whether it was mentioned before that spec ops is only 2 player which is quite annoyed because i thought it was going to be this games version of the zombie mode from WaW.
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It's not all that bad.
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I'm curious to know if it really is that bad. #modernwarfare2
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Of course the game is overrated, but I still can't wait for my pre-ordered copy to get here, especially after reading this. Not expecting them to re-invent the wheel (they didn't with CoD4) or even touch Uncharted 2's story, storytelling and characters, but I know I'll have a blast with this online and co-op. Well into next year indeed. #modernwarfare2
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I've never played the original (I've had my 360 for less than a year and haven't wanted to shell out $40 for the game yet), and it sounds like that's almost a prerequisite here. I don't think I've seen the game for cheaper than that $40 price, which is a little odd - even Halo 3, the king of Live multiplayer, dropped to $5 at FYE thanks to an awesome rebate.
Designing a sequel with that much reliance on its predecessor doesn't seem like a smart idea to me. If I'm new to the series and I won't be able to understand what's going on and I'll just get killed over and over in multiplayer, why bother? That doesn't sound like an experience worth $60 to me. #modernwarfare2
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I haven't gotten too far in yet but multiplayer is already quite frustrating, although I've mastered the art of getting my extra power after I've died over 3 times in a row! #modernwarfare2
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Edit: By the by, thats my opinion, if you felt otherwise, please share yours, just keep in mind i'm not trying to flame the game, I loved its gameplay and its multiplayer to death.
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It simply cannot- because if it did, they wouldn't be able to let you skip it. They had to sacrifice relevance to allow you to skip it, rendering the scenes pointless. #modernwarfare2
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The thought alone bothers me. #modernwarfare2
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As Charlie Brooker said the other day; the plot's nonsensical, the terrorist scene neither made the story better nor added to the game as an experience (IMO naturally!:))
#modernwarfare2
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Liked the first games single player (liked, not loved) but I expected more from this, instead, I got a ridiculous story wrapped in pretentiousness (yeh, thats a word now!).
Still, I still love what we all bought the game for, multiplayer! #modernwarfare2
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He is exactly the kind of person you expect that behaviour from (cant go an hour without teabagging someone on halo), instead, he was bored.
At the heart of it, the first half to that level, is incredibly boring. #modernwarfare2
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I didn't think it was that bad either, until I realised that one of the ambient crowd noises was a baby crying.
Admittedly, I only realised that after playing the level 3 times. The second due to my Xbox's disc drive dying at the end and me not realising that you can skip from the pause menu, the third out of curiosity to see if you actually have to shoot anyone, and you don't.
I think it's safe to say they were aiming to make the act seem very deliberate and incredibly evil, which was done pretty well, but a little more set up for it would have been good. A little more than "btw, here's this dude who's infiltrating these terrorist guys. You're him now, go pretend to be a bad guy" would have been nice. #modernwarfare2
05:19 AM
A better and equally shocking way could have been first person view as a civilian, and when you die, you just shift to the next civilian's view, to make it seem terrifying and inescapable.
Or maybe the game could put you in the shoes of a security guard, shooting without effect at the armored baddies, who mow down your friends with ease. A role reversal from the player's normal army-killing romp.
I just never got into the plot. Thats not to say the first one, which I did get into, had better storytelling ideas or techniques. Its just it felt really new to me then, so I was interested in everything about it.
Good fucking game though. #modernwarfare2
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Would be interesting to play with speakers on and eliminate that awful echo effect. #modernwarfare2
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The biggest reason I hate using mic headsets is because of how uncomfortable they are, but I can't use this. #modernwarfare2
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Having a mic in front of your face can be a bit off putting sometimes.
Though I like using a headset for FPS, so I dunno...
Though I have an old mic headset lying about, hmm could be a good weekend project....
Edit: weekend project would involve turning a regular PC mic into a throat mic. not converting this to work on PC, this has the wrong type of connector for even a 2.5mm to 3.5mm to work. Hooray for propriety hardware.
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The jack just looks like a mini jack. You should be fine connecting it to your computer with either a adapter, or just cut the wire and make two 1/4'' jacks. #modernwarfare2
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But yeah, with a neck mic I'd still use a headset. Just don't need a headset/mic combo one. #modernwarfare2
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360 controller just registers as a HID device, not a sound device. I't'd be annoyingly redundant too having to hook up a 360 control pad, then hook this up with the controller hanging off your neck while playing games. #modernwarfare2
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Either way, it won't be long till we see some better quality PC ones showing up. #modernwarfare2
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