Twitter and Facebook are fine...Facebook is really limited compared to the actual site but looking at pics is actually nicer on the 360, the slideshow feature is probably the best part about the interface. Twitter is doesn't let you look at pics but, again, I kind of like the 360 interface better.
Last.fm is fantastic. Wish you could listen outside of the application (ie in games), but I wasn't really expecting that. #facebook
@iampearithead: I wasn't being a smartass or anything, nor was I bashing the article. This is the first major 360 update that I'm not particularly interested in.
@SPni: I highly doubt that will ever become a feature. It would probably slow everything too much to run last.fm in the background while playing games. #facebook
@Trey: "Avatar Award Unlocked: You updated your Facebook profile by tapping it out on your controller. Award Unlocked: Loading Hourglass-costume." #facebook
The larger questions here are: "How enforcable are street dates", and more importantly, "should the publisher care if a street date is broken by a handful of days?"
I understand that there's enormous amounts of PR money spent and that's scheduled around a release date, but all a street date broken by a few days does is create more buzz in the community, and more column inches, which the publisher should support, right?
Knowing Acti, I wouldn't be all that surprised to find out that they orchestrate broken street dates, or at the very least ship copy to stores a few days earlier, secure in the knowledge that some of them will break the date. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
@Jonman: It's extremely enforceable. The question is willpower. In order to enforce them, you have to completely lock out a retailer and put them on a wholesale blacklist. They'll have to get their copies (if any) illicitly through a workaround, which means getting the game several days or weeks after launch. It's been done many times, and it works. The problem is you look like a bad guy for stomping on mom and pops. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
@royaljester: But how enforcable is it when it's a Gamestop , a Walmart or a Best Buy? To punish those chains by witholding stock is to shoot yourself in the foot. With a bazooka. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
It's good to note that they were only breaking the street date on pre-orders. That they weren't just selling willy nilly. Then he said something about "protecting our customer base." So basically, he means, we don't want people who pre-ordered from us going to another store to get the game. It's hard to tell if they're just trying to be competitive here, or if they actually care about their customers. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
@Kris: It's both, really. You won't have much of a customer base if they can get the game earlier somewhere else. Buy selling it a the same time as everyone else, you're not giving your customers any reason to shop anywhere else. Two birds with one stone. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
@kazmoronic: True and it is kind of retail industry standard practice that if one store in a market breaks street date, everyone else is allowed to as well. Unless it's something so phenomenal that the wrath of god will come down on them -- like a Harry Potter book. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
@Kris: Gamestop in Bowling green was selling to anyone that came in on saturday.....thats how i got the reciept to my store owner and then he sent it into kotaku....they changed on sunday to pre-orders only #callofdutymodernwarfare2
@Adam Canino: I see. I was basing my comment off of: "This past weekend, GameStop made the decision to break street date and sell reserved copies...." Which came from the VP of corporate communications (whatever that means). #callofdutymodernwarfare2
@Kris: I as a 'mom and pop' store owner have experienced this and would like to explain what GameStop's angle is. GameStop has worked under the table deals to get titles at times shipped soley to them two to five days early (I remember waiting with frustration for a version of NBA Live while GameStop had days of sales already). GameStop gets first "crack" (and sometimes a week of leadway) on limited edition versions of games while we wait for publishers to 'throw us a bone' on any extras. We all know the special favors GameStop gets with tons of exclusive free-bees and exclusive preorder bonuses. A little over a year ago there was a PS2 DragonBall Z game that was made soley for GameStop. And the constant struggle for an independent game store to get product signage and Point-of-Purchase (POP) marketing tools (posters, standees, etcccc) while they are shipped to GameStop in excess is a national gripe.
GameStop knows this is a chance for them to tighten the noose on locking out the independents. If they can convince publishers and consumers by popular opinion that the small business game store is an "outlaw" so to speak, and "we all have to watch those street release breaking hooligans" then they have won their propaganda campaign to push out competition.
In my business it is impossible to sit idly by while other stores break street date. So it is a given that once another couple of stores "crack" we have to oblige. In most cases I see more of a marketing buzz for the game because it becomes conversation to the laymen also. This is the type of thing that another person, who normally wasn't interested gets the "I want that too" feeling. I have been in the game business and selling video games since it became a phenom in the eighties and this historically seems to sell more games overall.
I would think some people will still say you have to follow the street release rules (which are enforced mostly to support GameStop beneficial midnight promotions), then I would ask you in this economy with a corporate "goliath" like GameStop continually trying to extinguish your flame, what would you do? #callofdutymodernwarfare2
@Dominick Scarpitta: That's completely understandable. Small, local stores are always getting shafted. :( The guy who owns the comic book store I go to was telling me recently that because he's not a corporate business, he gets overcharged on things like power, phone lines, etc. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
I don't see how this doesn't just start a chain reaction that rapidly extends out to the entire U.S.
One store sells early so Gamestop sells early. Best Buy 45 minutes away doesn't want to lose sales so they start selling to compete with Gamestop. Wal-Mart an hour away doesn't want to lose sales to Gamestop and Best Buy so they join in as well. etc, etc, etc.
My mother tells me two wrongs don't make a right and honestly, how many copies could a "mom and pop" store have? I doubt they even get 100. So the national chain Gamestop wants to keep a few sales so they take action into their own hands and break a mandated street date. Now they are taking sales away from all the other big retail chains and although they saw a problem with "mom and pop" screwing them they don't see anything wrong with sticking it in the rear of Best Buy around the corner.
I hope they get fined for being greedy and it cancels out the sales they are saving from "mom and pop" and stealing from every other retail chain. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
@SouthernerISuppose: GameStop stands to lose more from broken street dates than Best Buy.
Why? Because the hardcore gamers that will seek out broken street dates are the same types that will reserve the game to ensure they play it as soon as humanly possible.
So if the 7-11 down the street decides to put their copies out almost a week early, than those gamers that have a copy reserved at GameStop are going to say "Forget that" and go buy it elsewhere.
GameStop could easily counteract the criticism by simply only breaking street date for those who had reserved the game prior to the date this decision came down.
That way you grab those who wanted the copy ASAP and don't lose their supposedly "guaranteed" purchase.
@TRT-X: I agree 100%. They could sell out to those that already paid for the game in full in advance but from what I understand that isn't what they are doing.
I consider myself huge CoD fan and I didn't preorder the game through Gamestop but I will be picking up a copy tonight at midnight from a local retailer. Trust me though, if the Gamestop close to me was selling early I would have gone and picked up a copy asap and wouldn't be going to another local store tonight. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
When I saw the headline my first thought was "Wow, Activision's gonna shit bricks when they hear this"...Then I saw the quote and realized that Activision was actually working with GameStop to make this decision.
I would imagine the original store that broke street date will likely be punished by losing out on shipments of future titles.
But I really don't like the precident this sets...
And yes, I see the quote from Activision denying the conversations, but these days what the hell can you believe from them? This is the same company that has been sued TWICE for improper use of celebrity likenesses in the Hero franchise and both times actively denied something completely different.
You can't really blame Gamestop here. If Store A down the street is selling the game early, if you don't follow suit, you lose sales, it's as simple as that. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
@puffa469: Agreed. If you have already shipped the game to the stores, why are you preventing them from selling it? Is it not the whole point to make as many sales as possible for more profit? Or maybe the better question is Activision obligated to make it available to everyone at the same time? Not all retailers will have the game, so I can't see how this could be true.
It always infuriates me in my area when I KNOW FOR A FACT they have the product I want to spend money on in the back but will not let me purchase it. The trouble is the stores here seem to release the day AFTER the 'official' release date. I've seen this for multiple releases from different publishers, and I still can't understand it. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
@Kualtek: the reason it is done this way is so stores all have the product in theory available for sale at the same time and the same day. b.c if it were to ship and arrive on the day it releases UPS or FedEx arrive at different times each day in different stores. so some will have it at 10am while others wont have it til 3pm or 4pm idea is to make it fair. books, movies, cds, games all do the same thing for big releases #callofdutymodernwarfare2
@Generalthe: I can appreciate what they are attempting to do, and avoiding the whole philosophical 'is anything really fair' note, is it still realistic today?
I keep reading in different places that brick and mortar stores are still vitally important to sales, but from my own perspective it's difficult to see it that way. I can order stuff on amazon and get it day of release, for relatively low shipping costs. Digital release means I can have it on steam day of (or at least 3pm or so when they get around to 'releasing' it).
It's like the marketing for the game is more important than the actual game itself. I just saw an article on Kotaku here that GT5 is being delayed for marketing. It seems that the publishers or perhaps advertisers have more say than the companies they are trying to represent. In a way, that explains a lot of the recent seemingly odd trends in gaming. It's definitely a bad thing. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
@Kualtek: I can tell you for a fact that Gamestop won't pay for overnight shipping to it's stores. So if a game is shipped the day before release, Gamestop won't have in on release, or at least not when the store opens. I've seen cases where the game showed up from UPS at like 6pm on release day.
But for huge game releases like MW2, the game is shipped to the stores a week or more before release, so they will definitely have it for midnight launches, or on the morning of release day.
If a store decides to sell games early, all a publisher can really do is censor that store down the road, maybe not allocate them the amount of copies they need, or give them none at all, something like that.
The problem is Gamestop is soo huge that no publisher would date 'punish' them for breaking street date on a game.
As for the mom n pops selling early, well I guess they can be hurt by publishers for selling early, but many do it anyway, because thats one of the few ways they can compete against the 900lb gorilla that is Gamestop. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
If a certain store in an area sells a game early, I guarantee there are a significant number of people who will cancel their pre-order at GameStop and buy it there. To a lot of people, getting the game first is all that matters.
So I"m not surprised or appalled, at all. It's not even a great business decision, it's simply a practical one. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
@senselocke: Don't bother 'trying' to get a star. I've made tons of comments I considered superior to the one that got me starred both before and after. It'll happen or it won't. :P #callofdutymodernwarfare2
I don't understand why games do not get published on Fridays in the US? It is being done in Europe; it means people have the weekend to relax...and enjoy their games. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
@thurauh1: Sales numbers for the past week are compiled on mondays inclusively. So selling on tuesday makes for nicer numbers on the first week. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
@Minamu: Your point being...? Gamestop is a retail business. Retail businesses are somewhat financially reliant on maintaining at least some degree of credibility with their customer base. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
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Last.fm is fantastic. Wish you could listen outside of the application (ie in games), but I wasn't really expecting that. #facebook
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I was in the NXE beta as well, and I'm not too pleased with how little they've been keeping us updated...at least via the 360 interface.
That "Announcements" thing would have been a good place to note the updates. #facebook
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Cause thus far, with the preview program, thats a large ixnay. Which sucks hard. #facebook
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I understand that there's enormous amounts of PR money spent and that's scheduled around a release date, but all a street date broken by a few days does is create more buzz in the community, and more column inches, which the publisher should support, right?
Knowing Acti, I wouldn't be all that surprised to find out that they orchestrate broken street dates, or at the very least ship copy to stores a few days earlier, secure in the knowledge that some of them will break the date. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
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GameStop knows this is a chance for them to tighten the noose on locking out the independents. If they can convince publishers and consumers by popular opinion that the small business game store is an "outlaw" so to speak, and "we all have to watch those street release breaking hooligans" then they have won their propaganda campaign to push out competition.
In my business it is impossible to sit idly by while other stores break street date. So it is a given that once another couple of stores "crack" we have to oblige. In most cases I see more of a marketing buzz for the game because it becomes conversation to the laymen also. This is the type of thing that another person, who normally wasn't interested gets the "I want that too" feeling. I have been in the game business and selling video games since it became a phenom in the eighties and this historically seems to sell more games overall.
I would think some people will still say you have to follow the street release rules (which are enforced mostly to support GameStop beneficial midnight promotions), then I would ask you in this economy with a corporate "goliath" like GameStop continually trying to extinguish your flame, what would you do? #callofdutymodernwarfare2
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One store sells early so Gamestop sells early. Best Buy 45 minutes away doesn't want to lose sales so they start selling to compete with Gamestop. Wal-Mart an hour away doesn't want to lose sales to Gamestop and Best Buy so they join in as well. etc, etc, etc.
My mother tells me two wrongs don't make a right and honestly, how many copies could a "mom and pop" store have? I doubt they even get 100. So the national chain Gamestop wants to keep a few sales so they take action into their own hands and break a mandated street date. Now they are taking sales away from all the other big retail chains and although they saw a problem with "mom and pop" screwing them they don't see anything wrong with sticking it in the rear of Best Buy around the corner.
I hope they get fined for being greedy and it cancels out the sales they are saving from "mom and pop" and stealing from every other retail chain. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
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Why? Because the hardcore gamers that will seek out broken street dates are the same types that will reserve the game to ensure they play it as soon as humanly possible.
So if the 7-11 down the street decides to put their copies out almost a week early, than those gamers that have a copy reserved at GameStop are going to say "Forget that" and go buy it elsewhere.
GameStop could easily counteract the criticism by simply only breaking street date for those who had reserved the game prior to the date this decision came down.
That way you grab those who wanted the copy ASAP and don't lose their supposedly "guaranteed" purchase.
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I consider myself huge CoD fan and I didn't preorder the game through Gamestop but I will be picking up a copy tonight at midnight from a local retailer. Trust me though, if the Gamestop close to me was selling early I would have gone and picked up a copy asap and wouldn't be going to another local store tonight. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
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I would imagine the original store that broke street date will likely be punished by losing out on shipments of future titles.
But I really don't like the precident this sets...
And yes, I see the quote from Activision denying the conversations, but these days what the hell can you believe from them? This is the same company that has been sued TWICE for improper use of celebrity likenesses in the Hero franchise and both times actively denied something completely different.
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It always infuriates me in my area when I KNOW FOR A FACT they have the product I want to spend money on in the back but will not let me purchase it. The trouble is the stores here seem to release the day AFTER the 'official' release date. I've seen this for multiple releases from different publishers, and I still can't understand it. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
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I keep reading in different places that brick and mortar stores are still vitally important to sales, but from my own perspective it's difficult to see it that way. I can order stuff on amazon and get it day of release, for relatively low shipping costs. Digital release means I can have it on steam day of (or at least 3pm or so when they get around to 'releasing' it).
It's like the marketing for the game is more important than the actual game itself. I just saw an article on Kotaku here that GT5 is being delayed for marketing. It seems that the publishers or perhaps advertisers have more say than the companies they are trying to represent. In a way, that explains a lot of the recent seemingly odd trends in gaming. It's definitely a bad thing. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
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But for huge game releases like MW2, the game is shipped to the stores a week or more before release, so they will definitely have it for midnight launches, or on the morning of release day.
If a store decides to sell games early, all a publisher can really do is censor that store down the road, maybe not allocate them the amount of copies they need, or give them none at all, something like that.
The problem is Gamestop is soo huge that no publisher would date 'punish' them for breaking street date on a game.
As for the mom n pops selling early, well I guess they can be hurt by publishers for selling early, but many do it anyway, because thats one of the few ways they can compete against the 900lb gorilla that is Gamestop. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
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So I"m not surprised or appalled, at all. It's not even a great business decision, it's simply a practical one. #callofdutymodernwarfare2
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Honestly, the whole system is quite discouraging. For what it's worth, thanks, though. :) #callofdutymodernwarfare2
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