I'm a bit of a Schafer fan, so I picked up brutal legend even though the demo didnt really sell me, loving it now though! If only I could play it more, unfortunately work + Uncharted 2 = no free time. #timschafer
@MrBionic: for some reason I get the feeling you thought that Ocarina of Time was mediocre as well. take a closer look: they're very similar.
this is not a bad thing.
Brutal Legend is a flawed game but nowhere near mediocre. It's creative, legimitely different, and has damn solid gameplay.
The RTS elements are also nowhere near as bad as people say. They're awkward and can be frustrating as hell sometimes, but it's another element to a really solid game.
A game critic I love said that his favorite games of all time are the ones that aren't perfect, but try something different. I'm the same way. #timschafer
@anduin1: And some people think it's approaching the best game ever. That's what opinions are. I think in the end, that BL will be looked at as a mediocre game that will sell ok, but not really good or really bad. 10 years down the road, that's how I think it'll be seen.
I do, however, have to admit to loving the "OMG YOU AREN'T LOVING THE GAME I LOVE" people that come out of the woodworks :D #timschafer
@MrBionic: I think about it this way, had the game have not been made by Tim Schaffer, would people still like it as much as they say they do? I'm not trying to take anything away from it, but my impression of the game was that, although it was well written and presented very well, the gameplay didn't live up to the hype. I found the gameplay a bit lacking, frustrating and feeling a bit unpolished. #timschafer
@MrBionic: Brutal Legend is a success in my book because it's the first open world game which I actually do just want to drive around and explore, see the sights, uncover things and so forth. No other game has instilled this desire (apart from maybe Morrowind) in me before.
Also, it has a fucking awesome soundtrack. #timschafer
"For all the complaints we’ve heard that there still aren’t enough 'mature' games for their systems, it seems not enough Nintendo fans are willing to put up or shut up when it comes to buying the ones that actually come out."
Is it OK to not be enthused by Chinatown Wars due to the camera placement? I am well aware of the praise -- from both critics and consumers -- that the game has received, but I cannot shake the feeling that the camera would impede my enjoyment of the game.
After all, I am the type of person who bought Twilight Princess for the GameCube specifically for the camera control even though I ended up playing it on my Wii.
Sorry, fellow DS owners! At least you PSP and iPhone/Touch folks are going to get a fair crack at the game (though I imagine that timed exclusivity was the plan all along due to sales figures for LCS and VCS).
(Oh, and I have Lock's Quest, Trauma Center, all three Castlevania's, SIE, TWEWY, and DQH: Rocket Slime. Is my gamer cred intact?)
@GohanGVO: Whenever Chinatown Wars is brought up, it's like people forget it was one of the most pirated DS games. That's what lead to low sales and so even when there was interest for the game, there wasn't nearly as much money to match. #timschafer
@mintycrys is HOT for Bayonetta: So... you're saying it's my fault even though I didn't own the system the game was released for? I bought just about everything else on that list... doesn't that count for something?!
Looking back, Space Station Silicon Valley, The Last Express, and Okami are the only three I didn't buy. I am deeply regretful of the Armed & Dangerous purchase I must admit... #timschafer
@PossibleCabbage: I did not have a PS2. When Okami was released for the Wii, I bought a copy (new, in the first week or two after release). #timschafer
@mintycrys is HOT for Bayonetta: I had a Wii... it was stolen in a home invasion (along with my DS one of my 360s, a laptop, a grip of games... the list goes on) maybe 6 months after the console came out, I haven't been in a position to replace it since. :( #timschafer
@mintycrys is HOT for Bayonetta: It freaks me out a bit that whenever you post a comment, the first comment is a cactur, and the ones after are a purple haired girl. ._. #timschafer
@Polite Society: It's a glitch that Gawker has with avatars. I've gotten used to it. I mean, I have two avatars! That's pretty cool, if you ask me. Also, that thing about Okami and giant fields....well...you always have to search around for the next objective, and it's not exactly clear-cut in a couple of parts, so those huge fields can seem daunting. #timschafer
I actually still own that Nintendo Power issue with Metal Storm on the cover that they show in the article...Every now and then I like to flip through old old old issues of NP just to remind myself how far the gaming industry has really come. I see pixellated screenshots and remember thinking a long time ago that games couldn't look any better than that. #timschafer
Grim Fandango is such an awesome game. its the only type of it's kind that ive ever liked. to me the genre is lame, but GF's writing and art style totally make up for it. #timschafer
@fernandosolano: The characters get the ending they deserve. It's worth a playthrough, and the game can be completed in just a few hours. You should go back and give it a shot. There are a couple of spots where the game sorta drags, but the whole final sequence is what makes me think that Grim Fandango beats out Half-Life for best PC game of the 1990s. #timschafer
@fernandosolano: yes you are. But good luck playing it. There has been virtually no support for the game from Windows XP on. The game is virtually unplayable unless you still have a copy of Win 95/98/ME. And it is such a bummer because it is by far my favorite game of all time. #timschafer
A lot of these games would be absolutely loathed if they had any mainstream popularity.
I just don't get game and music fans. Having more than a few people like the same things that they do causes their sense of self to jettison into the sun. #timschafer
This music...these 70s bands, these rock stars of old...I love it because I listened to it in my dad's truck when I was 5! I don't really LIKE it, it's just become engrained into my life...but...it's important to me! MINE!
And...and when those people like it...it's like they're...they're taking away daddy's love ;____; #timschafer
@BubbleF**kingBuddy: I know how you feel, it's like a sort of elitism in that you have people saying "I liked x before x went mainstream and became cool but now that it's cool I don't like x any more". It's such a pretentious way of looking at things, and it really abhorrs me. I mean, you like what you like and if you don't like it, either have a constructive reason as to why you don't like it or shut up and get on with it. You can't just stop liking something just because it's the in-thing and you don't want to be a part of it. That's just stupid and the only thing you're doing that way is closing off your horizons instead of expanding them. #timschafer
That's how it is...you feel 'special' loving a niche or hidden game. The thing is, that can turn on a dime.
I personally don't care if a game becomes popular...to me, it's just more people to talk about the game with. But some people NEED to feel special, they NEED the 'exclusive club' pass of Beyond Good and Evil, Okami or insert whatever Schafer game.
The "I was there first or I was into it BEFORE it got cool" mentality... #timschafer
@BubbleF**kingBuddy: It's almost too late for Brutal Legend. It seems that more and more Schafer fans think that he's sold out with this game and sacrificed his unique charm for Jack Black and Ozzy, even though that's nowhere near true. They just can't stand something they like becoming popular without their approval.
It's like how popcorn chicken wasn't all that big until a few years ago. But I didn't stop eating it just because it got popular. #timschafer
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@Rachel Fogg: That mentality IS justified, sometimes, though
You might like something earnestly while some people get into it BECAUSE it gains popularity, or because they think being into it makes them special.
Example: The Nightmare Before Chrsitmas. I was 3 when it came out. It has been my favorite since. I don't care that other people like it- but god damnit those 12 year olds wearing Jack skellington hot topic merchandise piss me the hell off. :| #timschafer
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But have you ever thought that MAYBE they like it too? It's not always because it's 'trendy'...it's easy for anyone to throw it off and say those 12 year old bastards are wearing what I like.
But you know what....if you were young and they had Jack Skellington merchandise as prominent as they do now. Would you wear it?
We can't be greedy and covet everything that's special to us and deny other people the same feeling if it gives them the same pleasure. It's unfair.
I liked anime WAY before it got popular (y'know before you could buy anime at Target and Walmart...), I go to conventions and see the kids with their parents buying the shit that I would BEG my parents to buy for me at their age. It gets me...I don't deny it but I was that age once long ago and you know what...my dad brought me that Sailor Moon wallscroll and that kick ass Devilman VHS tape (oh Devilman...).
@BubbleF**kingBuddy: I know exactly what you mean. A while back I was listening to a Blink 182 album (don't hurt me!) and one of my roomates came in and gave me this huge speech about how he used to like Blink 182 but they sold-out and were "too corporate" because MTV started playing their videos. Then he proceeded to go into his room and crank up a Paramore album. #timschafer
@WhiteMage: I agree. Hot Topic always seems to annoy me for some reason. One year at work we did a secret Santa gift exchange and I got this weird 19 year old kid who was obsessed with Guitar Hero. Every other word was about Dragonforce or expert mode or something. (Also, he smelled like marijuana and cheddar cheese.) Anyway, I didn't know what to get him so I emailed him and ask him. "A gift card to Hot Topic" was his reply. Long story short, I got him a $10 gift card to Bed, Bath and Beyond and a keychain with a picture of a naked baby/angel. #timschafer
@mintycrys is HOT for Bayonetta: Bless you for quoting Ozzy/The Guardian of Metal. Or if it's a reference to something earlier than that, please spare my life. 0_0 #timschafer
It's a bit like the popularity of the internet, but on a smaller scale. I'm sure most of us tech savvy individuals have been using the web long enough to remember when making profile/social networking pages meant you were a nerd with too much time on their hands to code a page yourself.
As one of those people, I don't really feel a loss at the popularity of the web and that it's become the quintessential place for today's youth to socialize. Now we have so many more tools and functions at our disposal and no longer have to resort to such means to achieve the same results.
Same with games. The bigger they are, the better it is for all of us. Will we see more shovelware and cash ins? Sure. But we'll also see the core titles reap the benefits as well. As I posted above, I own over 1/2 the games on that list, and most of them are lost in obscurity.
It's cool to feel like I'm "in the know" with these smaller titles, but I'd much rather have playable sequels to them than saying, "I know about this game and you didn't! Hah!" #timschafer
@Rachel Fogg: Idk, I think it's easy to tell when someone is truly a fan of something and when they aren't.
And they DID have merchandise, and no, I didn't wear it. The extent of my merchandise is a remake of a special edition Sally doll that pulls apart, fingerless gloves with a stylized jack face sewn right in, and a jack skull cover thingy for my key.
The people who deck themselves out...no. You can just tell. #timschafer
No you can't, not really, they're fans...it's like seeing a kid wearing nothing but Naruto merchandise or the colour blue...doesn't make them any less in love with the show or color then the other guy. Some people just like showing off what they love.
Now I WONT deny that a good percentage of people who might wear the stuff are wearing it because its fashionable...kinda like the Che shirts I see people wearing. And they know jack shit who the guy is...
And yes, you did WEAR something related to the Nightmare series, you said you wore a Jack skull cover thing for your key. That's wearing the merchandise. Whether big or small. It's kinda hypocritical to rage against the young heads for wearing Jack stuff when you wore or possessed something Jack long ago or currently.
Not railing on you or anything, my point is at one time we were ALL introduced or were curious to something we didn't know before. Some people went in softly while other went it full speed ahead. No one was BORN in the know...
LOL! I figure that was true for alot of folks about the internet.
And I won't deny the sense of liking or knowing something before everyone else did. It's in our nature to strive and discover and when we find something we generally have a small sense of accomplishment or 'teh awesomes'.
That's what's going on with gaming now, everyone is clamoring about the casuals ruining everything when it's not the case entirely...it's opening alot of eyes to the possibilities of games and making them less 'forbidden and ashamed' to people who thought otherwise.
Hell I feel that way about being a girl gamer...I've been gaming most of my life, I don't want to catered to and I have the sense that I'm 'better' then the bejeweled/Iphone girl gamers out there. But in truth, I got my first game on with Pacman...which has had a shit load of clones and successors. The kind of games that girls are playing to an extent.
@BubbleF**kingBuddy: Yeah, indie snobs are annoying. As far as music goes, bands do change. The bigger they get, the more money they need to make, and frequently (but not always), their music gets bigger, more bloated, and less interesting as a result.
Never heard it applied to games really. I'm personally never less than tickled when something I enjoy sells well and is enjoyed by many- it bodes well for my collection.
At any rate, keep in mind these are often kids or very young adults we're talking about here with the attitude problem you mentioned. They are at a critical point in which they're beginning to define their place in the world. At the same time they are often too immature (for the most part) to do it in any way other than defining themselves in opposition to others. It'll pass. Most of us go through it in one way or another.
Will be buying this title. But please, Tim, if you're reading this -- how about a Grim Fandango 2? Since we're no longer worried about sales, who cares if the first one wasn't a smash hit? That game blew my mind with its brilliance, art-design, direction and voice work. Pretty please? With a fanboy dancing the Fandango on top?
@Sloopydrew: Why do people want sequels for unique games with self-contained stories? Part of what made Grim Fandango awesome was its uniqueness, making a sequel takes that away. Let Schafer make new and interesting games, not sequels to old games.
That's a refreshing thing to say, especially since these days game sales have a lot more to do with how well the game was hyped and marketed, and less to do with whether or not the game is actually good. Tim's job is to make a good game, and he's been delivering there for quite a while.
Psychnauts didn't sell well but I'd say a lot of that has to do with Majesco trying to sell the game to consumers. I remember hearing about the game from watching stuff on G4, but outside of that, crickets. GTAIV on the other hand sold like gangbusters, partially due to all the hype, and partially due to people being inundated with GTAIV ads. On that note, I get the feeling that EA is going to do a better job marketing Brutal Legends than Majesco did with marketing Psychnauts.
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@Twanzio: #timschafer
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this is not a bad thing.
10/21/09
Brutal Legend is a flawed game but nowhere near mediocre. It's creative, legimitely different, and has damn solid gameplay.
The RTS elements are also nowhere near as bad as people say. They're awkward and can be frustrating as hell sometimes, but it's another element to a really solid game.
A game critic I love said that his favorite games of all time are the ones that aren't perfect, but try something different. I'm the same way. #timschafer
10/21/09
I'd say its a little above average, nowhere near the hype level deliverance I expected but meh, its not ass. #timschafer
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I do, however, have to admit to loving the "OMG YOU AREN'T LOVING THE GAME I LOVE" people that come out of the woodworks :D #timschafer
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Also, it has a fucking awesome soundtrack. #timschafer
10/21/09
I need to get around to opening my copy of Madworld. Also, I hope Valkyria 2 doesn't suck. #timschafer
10/21/09
Is it OK to not be enthused by Chinatown Wars due to the camera placement? I am well aware of the praise -- from both critics and consumers -- that the game has received, but I cannot shake the feeling that the camera would impede my enjoyment of the game.
After all, I am the type of person who bought Twilight Princess for the GameCube specifically for the camera control even though I ended up playing it on my Wii.
Sorry, fellow DS owners! At least you PSP and iPhone/Touch folks are going to get a fair crack at the game (though I imagine that timed exclusivity was the plan all along due to sales figures for LCS and VCS).
(Oh, and I have Lock's Quest, Trauma Center, all three Castlevania's, SIE, TWEWY, and DQH: Rocket Slime. Is my gamer cred intact?)
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Here's hoping the original comes to XBLA....or Microsoft patches PSRF to fix the slowdown issues (not likely).
And as always, if you ignored Okami at retail, you are the reason why game companies don't let us have nice things. This is fact. #timschafer
10/21/09
Are people who bought the Wii version excused? #timschafer
10/21/09
@potatojenkins: the hardcore gamer crowd didn't actually go all out for Okami either. That's what makes the story so tragic. #timschafer
10/21/09
Looking back, Space Station Silicon Valley, The Last Express, and Okami are the only three I didn't buy. I am deeply regretful of the Armed & Dangerous purchase I must admit... #timschafer
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@PossibleCabbage: I did not have a PS2. When Okami was released for the Wii, I bought a copy (new, in the first week or two after release). #timschafer
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/._.'\ That Sue must be hongury… #timschafer
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Best game ending ever, too! #timschafer
10/21/09
no spoilers, but am i missing out by not finishing it? #timschafer
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Because I just checked the specs, and they're for Win9 (Read: DOS) computers… #timschafer
10/22/09
Here;s hoping for Steam rerelease. #timschafer
10/21/09
I just don't get game and music fans. Having more than a few people like the same things that they do causes their sense of self to jettison into the sun. #timschafer
10/21/09
Yeah, that's right. You two both helped popularize music that I once enjoyed having all to myself. : / #timschafer
10/21/09
This music...these 70s bands, these rock stars of old...I love it because I listened to it in my dad's truck when I was 5! I don't really LIKE it, it's just become engrained into my life...but...it's important to me! MINE!
And...and when those people like it...it's like they're...they're taking away daddy's love ;____; #timschafer
10/21/09
I have no clue what you mean?
Taking a crack at:
I love "indie" things for the sake of being "indie"?
Right?
Good games are good games. It matters not if they sell well.
Successful games are not all good games. It matters not if they play well. #timschafer
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That's how it is...you feel 'special' loving a niche or hidden game. The thing is, that can turn on a dime.
I personally don't care if a game becomes popular...to me, it's just more people to talk about the game with. But some people NEED to feel special, they NEED the 'exclusive club' pass of Beyond Good and Evil, Okami or insert whatever Schafer game.
The "I was there first or I was into it BEFORE it got cool" mentality... #timschafer
10/21/09
It's like how popcorn chicken wasn't all that big until a few years ago. But I didn't stop eating it just because it got popular. #timschafer
10/21/09
You might like something earnestly while some people get into it BECAUSE it gains popularity, or because they think being into it makes them special.
Example: The Nightmare Before Chrsitmas. I was 3 when it came out. It has been my favorite since. I don't care that other people like it- but god damnit those 12 year olds wearing Jack skellington hot topic merchandise piss me the hell off. :| #timschafer
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@Rachel Fogg: Reminds me of this.
www.xkcd.com/460/
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But have you ever thought that MAYBE they like it too? It's not always because it's 'trendy'...it's easy for anyone to throw it off and say those 12 year old bastards are wearing what I like.
But you know what....if you were young and they had Jack Skellington merchandise as prominent as they do now. Would you wear it?
We can't be greedy and covet everything that's special to us and deny other people the same feeling if it gives them the same pleasure. It's unfair.
I liked anime WAY before it got popular (y'know before you could buy anime at Target and Walmart...), I go to conventions and see the kids with their parents buying the shit that I would BEG my parents to buy for me at their age. It gets me...I don't deny it but I was that age once long ago and you know what...my dad brought me that Sailor Moon wallscroll and that kick ass Devilman VHS tape (oh Devilman...).
Times change... #timschafer
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It's a bit like the popularity of the internet, but on a smaller scale. I'm sure most of us tech savvy individuals have been using the web long enough to remember when making profile/social networking pages meant you were a nerd with too much time on their hands to code a page yourself.
As one of those people, I don't really feel a loss at the popularity of the web and that it's become the quintessential place for today's youth to socialize. Now we have so many more tools and functions at our disposal and no longer have to resort to such means to achieve the same results.
Same with games. The bigger they are, the better it is for all of us. Will we see more shovelware and cash ins? Sure. But we'll also see the core titles reap the benefits as well. As I posted above, I own over 1/2 the games on that list, and most of them are lost in obscurity.
It's cool to feel like I'm "in the know" with these smaller titles, but I'd much rather have playable sequels to them than saying, "I know about this game and you didn't! Hah!" #timschafer
10/21/09
And they DID have merchandise, and no, I didn't wear it. The extent of my merchandise is a remake of a special edition Sally doll that pulls apart, fingerless gloves with a stylized jack face sewn right in, and a jack skull cover thingy for my key.
The people who deck themselves out...no. You can just tell. #timschafer
10/21/09
No you can't, not really, they're fans...it's like seeing a kid wearing nothing but Naruto merchandise or the colour blue...doesn't make them any less in love with the show or color then the other guy. Some people just like showing off what they love.
Now I WONT deny that a good percentage of people who might wear the stuff are wearing it because its fashionable...kinda like the Che shirts I see people wearing. And they know jack shit who the guy is...
And yes, you did WEAR something related to the Nightmare series, you said you wore a Jack skull cover thing for your key. That's wearing the merchandise. Whether big or small. It's kinda hypocritical to rage against the young heads for wearing Jack stuff when you wore or possessed something Jack long ago or currently.
Not railing on you or anything, my point is at one time we were ALL introduced or were curious to something we didn't know before. Some people went in softly while other went it full speed ahead. No one was BORN in the know...
That's all. #timschafer
10/21/09
LOL! I figure that was true for alot of folks about the internet.
And I won't deny the sense of liking or knowing something before everyone else did. It's in our nature to strive and discover and when we find something we generally have a small sense of accomplishment or 'teh awesomes'.
That's what's going on with gaming now, everyone is clamoring about the casuals ruining everything when it's not the case entirely...it's opening alot of eyes to the possibilities of games and making them less 'forbidden and ashamed' to people who thought otherwise.
Hell I feel that way about being a girl gamer...I've been gaming most of my life, I don't want to catered to and I have the sense that I'm 'better' then the bejeweled/Iphone girl gamers out there. But in truth, I got my first game on with Pacman...which has had a shit load of clones and successors. The kind of games that girls are playing to an extent.
So...yeah...LOL! ^-^ #timschafer
10/21/09
Never heard it applied to games really. I'm personally never less than tickled when something I enjoy sells well and is enjoyed by many- it bodes well for my collection.
At any rate, keep in mind these are often kids or very young adults we're talking about here with the attitude problem you mentioned. They are at a critical point in which they're beginning to define their place in the world. At the same time they are often too immature (for the most part) to do it in any way other than defining themselves in opposition to others. It'll pass. Most of us go through it in one way or another.
04/07/09
Only got to play the first 10 or 15 minutes and I like it already. Very unique w/ top notch music.
BTW, is Raz voiced by the guy who does Steve from American Dad?
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Tim Schafer deserves this.
You don't see adventure games like this anymore.
So do this for him and for me since i don't have a 360 or ps3.
sorry Tim.
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Psychnauts didn't sell well but I'd say a lot of that has to do with Majesco trying to sell the game to consumers. I remember hearing about the game from watching stuff on G4, but outside of that, crickets. GTAIV on the other hand sold like gangbusters, partially due to all the hype, and partially due to people being inundated with GTAIV ads. On that note, I get the feeling that EA is going to do a better job marketing Brutal Legends than Majesco did with marketing Psychnauts.