I really love the fact that everytime a more erotic japanese game/anime/whatever is posted it becomes JAPAN BASHING TIME!!!
For all those sprouting nonsense about pedophilia and age of consent in Japan, did you know most western countries have WAY higher child abuse rates? I'm talking about 10x more.
That and rape cases.
I couldn't find the official charts used on an earlier discussion, but let's start with this one, shall we? [www.nationmaster.com]
Are people so blind as not to realize their own country is filled with way worse sexual perversions and stuff?
Because you know, blogs, the official media and even the people who are reading those selects only the weird and sexual-related content specially when it comes to Japan and keeps that in mind.
Since we almost don't see everyday news from Japan aside from the exotic, lots of people build a false image.
But Japan is just like any other country out there, and I'm inclined to say they have way less sexual related crimes and they are way less perverted than most countries in the American continent.
The only difference is that they have a more open culture to discuss these subjects openly.
But you know, it's so fucking easy to close your eyes to the problems of your own country making an image that other coutries are "perverted", "weird" or "crime ridden"...
Just remember the worldwide news of the past... 5 years or more, with rape cases and child abuse. Where did they happen? How many of them were in Japan?
I can remember at least some 5 or 6 that happened either in Europe or in the US...
@Bokusatsu_Tenshi: I agree with the false image point. However, you also have to keep in mind that we usually only know of crimes like rape because they are *reported*. In some societies, the victim is much less likely to report the crime, or even talk about it at all, than others.
Japan may well be one where females are less likely to report being sexually abused. Why? Because it is still such a male-dominated society.
Look at that chart. Do you *honestly* believe that there are more rapes in the USA than in Mexico, a society on the verge of collapse because of corruption, drug lords, and rampant crime? The Police are afraid of the criminals, not the other way around.
I recently read a story of a gang killing the chief of police in the capital because he was actually doing his job. No-one was ever charged with the crime. Then look at Russia's statistic. Really? Seriously? You actually believe that shit? Do you know anything *about* these places?
I posit that it is because the USA *is* such a (relatively) more moral and safe society that the REPORTED rape statistics are higher. We actually go after these bastards that do this shit to women. And we don't treat abused women like lepers. Those other countries on the list? Don't be so sure.
@Mobusaki:Yep, I'm aware of that too.
Forgot to mention... on the link provided it's only the absolute numbers... they also have percentage number related to population size and I've also seen a chart of predicted cases... Japan was still very low.
And it's mainly due to how their society works, education level, and possibly due to historical reasons too.
I mean, I always take statistics with a grain of salt, but they are unfortunately still better indicators than the overall mentality of commenters on posts like this one.
@Bokusatsu_Tenshi: Gee I dunno. You being so defensive about a country youre not even from. I mean come on. You have some anime name and avatar. Im sure you just love defending every other country, like all the American bashing that goes on here ( Never mind you most likely think it's deserving).
@NoBullet: Off topic here, but no, I'm not your stereotypical anime fanboy.
I'm not defensive, just trying to correct misunderstandings that always go all over the place when posts like these show up.
I don't hate the US... been there a couple of times, and loved it.
Would go back again if it wasn't for all the trouble you have to go to enter the country.
I do have lots of friends who bash US and specially it's people without even knowing them... people oftenly end up calling me names only because I know english and defend their culture.
Which is exactly the reason why I defend Japan.
If I had read comments bashing US, any European country I know or my own country (Brazil), I would defend it in the same way.
But let's set things apart ok. One thing is treating them like demi-gods. A whole other thing is being against xenophoby and stereotypification.
See, I know lots of Japanese are just like that. Treat foreigners and other countries like they were superior or something. But that's another discussion.
People sprout senseless stuff against other people or countries mainly due to ignorance. And I like to have a word with those who do it.
Also: it's normal for me to write long comments, as you probably have noticed by now.
Don't just go judging me based on name and avatar.
@Shinkirou: True. Not much into that stuff, though I must admit I do love my share of moe... :P
What I really don't like is rape simulators and other things like that.
But it's a personal taste which I can't and won't impose on no one else.
If a guy likes it, and would use a rape simulator to attend his urges instead of going for the real thing, I think it's great.
DoA girls look nice, but... I just want the gameplay on PSP. Port DoA2 Hardcore or something! Give me more fighting games that don't have a half dozen buttons, and teleportation, fireballs, and ridiculous cartoon attacks! Those are awesome, but DoA is awesome because it doesn't have that - it's martial arts with sensible reversals, on a system anyone can pick up, but you can improve on and on for years...
I tried DoAX at a friend's place once - I lost the match because I didn't know how to play, then my partner left and I spent a half hour trying to get someone else so I could just play the volleyball that was advertised on the cover! Gimme the fighting game with or without the girls, but don't give me the girls without the game...
...what? Nopan? *shrug* It stops being shocking when it's ubiquitous. I'm more impressed if a game actually has modestly dressed anime girls because it's so rare. :p
commando is so much more comfortable and healthy. underpants are a relic of time past when we didn't have the same access to cleanliness that we do now.
@Andrew Wyatt: while yes... I would say sex with a 13yr old could be considered "creepy" what "IF" our laws were the same? I think if the laws were like that from the beginning that honestly the rate of pedophilia would actually go down.
As a vast majority of pedophiles actually are attracted to the girls/boys because it is taboo and not really anything to do with age.
Just like how some people get off on having sex in public. Its the thrill of doing something "taboo" that really makes pedophila such a problem here.
@Andrew Wyatt: Yes, technically "people" in Japan can have sex with children, so long as the people are other children. The range of 13-17 in the extreme case would still have two consenting minors; anything else is rape.
@adam.pricefamily: I did realize this sortly after posting (past 15 minutes, though). The "adult age" in America is 18, but the AoC is 16, which I'm sure annoys the hell out of high school girls checking out college guys.
13 does seem a bit young, though, no matter what your laws are. I mean, kids barely old enough to be sexually functional being sexually active, even producing kids of their own? Even in America it's sad, yet all too common.
@Demoskinos: Like I said (indirectly a response to you), 13 isn't a good age to be sexually active no matter what the laws are, but you're absolutely right about the taboo. People just love doing shit they're not supposed to do. They love the thrill of doing something deviant and hoping they don't get caught.
I think part of their thrill actually does have something to do with the kiddies, though. I can't explain it myself, and I'm not even sure pedophiles could, but they could find something arousing about adolescent or prepubescent bodies. Could we have psychologists look into it? Perhaps, but we'd rather have scientists discover why candy wrappers are so noisy. (TRUE EXPERIMENT)
@Andrew Wyatt: Japan's AoC may be 13, but they do bump it up depending on the prefecture. As for finding them attractive, it is perfectly within someone's mindset to find a neotonous appearance attractive. It's how I prefer my women. I'd never hit on someone below the age of 16 because I'm Canadian and it'd feel akward doing so, but with all the asian girls in the area, finding girls who are of legal age but short and flat/small breasted is rather easy.
@Bastille: You're right, I did forget to mention that certain prefectures do have their own regulations in place. I think they range from 13-17, actually. I can't remember where I read that, though.
And I agree with both of your implied preferences. Although my girlfriend isn't, I've found Asian women to be kinda cute, and I've always preferred smaller breasts, which my girlfriend does have. Show me a cute Asian girl with glasses and I'll have a hard time saying "no" to anything.
@adinnieken: Does it? I thought it was a uniform 16. Hm. If it isn't Age of Consent, I wonder what I was thinking happened at 16, besides being able to get a driving permit (or was it license?).
@Andrew Wyatt: Every state has the right to determine the Age of Consent. The same applies to drivers licenses as well. In most states, individuals 16 years and older can obtain a drivers license. In some states that starts as young as 14. However in others, you cannot obtain a drivers license until you are 18.
Irrespective of the state, basically in the US it's considered safest not to mess with anyone under the age of 18.
Even in states where the Age of Consent is 16 or younger, parents have the right as the guardian, to have a person charged with statutory rape if the person engaging in sex with a minor is 18 or older.
Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball is possibly the worst video game I've ever owned. My dad bought it for me shortly after I got my original Xbox. I really can't blame him for it though. His heart was in the right place. He thought "boobies, video game... my son will love it!"
I was looking for it recently to show a friend how awful it was, but I guess I sold it or something. I never get rid of my games unless they're extremely bad, so that's likely.
How do the comics look on the PSP screen? Do you turn the PSP 90 degress to view in portriat mode? Do you have to scroll around on the screen to see the entire page?
The PSP screen doesnt seem like the ideal screen to look at comicbooks on.
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For all those sprouting nonsense about pedophilia and age of consent in Japan, did you know most western countries have WAY higher child abuse rates? I'm talking about 10x more.
That and rape cases.
I couldn't find the official charts used on an earlier discussion, but let's start with this one, shall we?
[www.nationmaster.com]
Are people so blind as not to realize their own country is filled with way worse sexual perversions and stuff?
Because you know, blogs, the official media and even the people who are reading those selects only the weird and sexual-related content specially when it comes to Japan and keeps that in mind.
Since we almost don't see everyday news from Japan aside from the exotic, lots of people build a false image.
But Japan is just like any other country out there, and I'm inclined to say they have way less sexual related crimes and they are way less perverted than most countries in the American continent.
The only difference is that they have a more open culture to discuss these subjects openly.
But you know, it's so fucking easy to close your eyes to the problems of your own country making an image that other coutries are "perverted", "weird" or "crime ridden"...
Just remember the worldwide news of the past... 5 years or more, with rape cases and child abuse. Where did they happen? How many of them were in Japan?
I can remember at least some 5 or 6 that happened either in Europe or in the US...
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Japan may well be one where females are less likely to report being sexually abused. Why? Because it is still such a male-dominated society.
Look at that chart. Do you *honestly* believe that there are more rapes in the USA than in Mexico, a society on the verge of collapse because of corruption, drug lords, and rampant crime? The Police are afraid of the criminals, not the other way around.
I recently read a story of a gang killing the chief of police in the capital because he was actually doing his job. No-one was ever charged with the crime. Then look at Russia's statistic. Really? Seriously? You actually believe that shit? Do you know anything *about* these places?
I posit that it is because the USA *is* such a (relatively) more moral and safe society that the REPORTED rape statistics are higher. We actually go after these bastards that do this shit to women. And we don't treat abused women like lepers. Those other countries on the list? Don't be so sure.
Take those statistics with a bag of salt, mkay?
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Forgot to mention... on the link provided it's only the absolute numbers... they also have percentage number related to population size and I've also seen a chart of predicted cases... Japan was still very low.
And it's mainly due to how their society works, education level, and possibly due to historical reasons too.
I mean, I always take statistics with a grain of salt, but they are unfortunately still better indicators than the overall mentality of commenters on posts like this one.
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Did you read what I wrote? "Japan is just like any other country out there"?
I'm just tired of listening to bullshit comments saying how Japan is perverted and how pedophilia is a standard there.
Just read other people's comment.
And actual Japanese person wouldn't be so defensive because they don't know the image that is made of their country on posts like this one.
And I'm not and actual Japanese person anyways... just someone that sees prejudice and stereotypification as a bad thing.
If you're not confortable with me exposing such things, skip the comments or just start thinking on why you're not confortable with them.
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Japanese gets their fill of that stuff from simulations. Not a bad way to subdue instincts imo but.... still kinda creepy.
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I'm not defensive, just trying to correct misunderstandings that always go all over the place when posts like these show up.
I don't hate the US... been there a couple of times, and loved it.
Would go back again if it wasn't for all the trouble you have to go to enter the country.
I do have lots of friends who bash US and specially it's people without even knowing them... people oftenly end up calling me names only because I know english and defend their culture.
Which is exactly the reason why I defend Japan.
If I had read comments bashing US, any European country I know or my own country (Brazil), I would defend it in the same way.
But let's set things apart ok. One thing is treating them like demi-gods. A whole other thing is being against xenophoby and stereotypification.
See, I know lots of Japanese are just like that. Treat foreigners and other countries like they were superior or something. But that's another discussion.
People sprout senseless stuff against other people or countries mainly due to ignorance. And I like to have a word with those who do it.
Also: it's normal for me to write long comments, as you probably have noticed by now.
Don't just go judging me based on name and avatar.
03:36 PM
But that's not the subject in issue here. Not talking about history, talking about modern times.
See, I never said Japan is perfect or that the japanese never commited attrocities during the war.
In fact, I think no country that even sent troops to war can be excused of certain stuff.
But yeah, Japan is guilty and has to recognize all the bad stuff they did there.
Sadly, there are very few content about this... one good movie that has something about it is IP Man, dunno if you heard about it.
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What I really don't like is rape simulators and other things like that.
But it's a personal taste which I can't and won't impose on no one else.
If a guy likes it, and would use a rape simulator to attend his urges instead of going for the real thing, I think it's great.
About the same for violent games.
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I tried DoAX at a friend's place once - I lost the match because I didn't know how to play, then my partner left and I spent a half hour trying to get someone else so I could just play the volleyball that was advertised on the cover! Gimme the fighting game with or without the girls, but don't give me the girls without the game...
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...what? Nopan? *shrug* It stops being shocking when it's ubiquitous. I'm more impressed if a game actually has modestly dressed anime girls because it's so rare. :p
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"The Article 177 of the Penal Code puts the age of consent for sexual actitvity at thirteen (13) years."
"For the purpose of this Law, a 'child' means a person under the age of 18 years."
So, technically, people in Japan can have sex with children. Creepy, huh?
[www.ageofconsent.com]
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As a vast majority of pedophiles actually are attracted to the girls/boys because it is taboo and not really anything to do with age.
Just like how some people get off on having sex in public. Its the thrill of doing something "taboo" that really makes pedophila such a problem here.
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13 does seem a bit young, though, no matter what your laws are. I mean, kids barely old enough to be sexually functional being sexually active, even producing kids of their own? Even in America it's sad, yet all too common.
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I think part of their thrill actually does have something to do with the kiddies, though. I can't explain it myself, and I'm not even sure pedophiles could, but they could find something arousing about adolescent or prepubescent bodies. Could we have psychologists look into it? Perhaps, but we'd rather have scientists discover why candy wrappers are so noisy. (TRUE EXPERIMENT)
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And I agree with both of your implied preferences. Although my girlfriend isn't, I've found Asian women to be kinda cute, and I've always preferred smaller breasts, which my girlfriend does have. Show me a cute Asian girl with glasses and I'll have a hard time saying "no" to anything.
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Irrespective of the state, basically in the US it's considered safest not to mess with anyone under the age of 18.
Even in states where the Age of Consent is 16 or younger, parents have the right as the guardian, to have a person charged with statutory rape if the person engaging in sex with a minor is 18 or older.
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I was looking for it recently to show a friend how awful it was, but I guess I sold it or something. I never get rid of my games unless they're extremely bad, so that's likely.
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The PSP screen doesnt seem like the ideal screen to look at comicbooks on.
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Bashcraft, I think we may need a fish?
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