Ok first I am not going to be like some of you and bitch about how big it is. Second, I am now not buying a PS3 and buying a DSi LL. Third I am buying a keyboard for thing and using it as a laptop. I both hate and love Nintendo. I'm sorry but I have to see what MarioKart, Mario 64 look like on this wonderous beauty.
@Mit: Don't forget "worse at the same distance" seeing how it sports the same number of pixels as a DS Lite despite offering 93% more space to work with. In other words, it's just sorta asking to be made blatantly aware of things that smaller screens obscure while enjoying increased blockiness for general gameplay. Have fun with kart, bigd.
@Anemone: I'll be plenty fine with the extra blockiness, but I don't think there will be much of a difference with the perception of blockiness. The DSi screen is bigger and brighter than that of the DSlite and it doesn't seem any blockier, in fact, I am much more satisfied playing my games on the larger DSi screens than I am on the DSlite or the Phat. In summery, I doubt there will be much of a noticeable difference. :)
@Cochese: Now with moxie.: That's nice. I'm sure you're the sort who doesn't bother with anything other than composite and S-video hookups for your HDTV as well... I mean who gives a flying tear about resolution in relation to size and distance anyway; it's not like it's something anyone would notice anyway.
@Anemone: Actually, I use HDMI on both my 360 and PS3. I'm just not so jaded as to care much about a slight resolution dip. Did you stop playing all of your old games once you got a 360 or PS3? All of my consoles from the NES on up get a regular work out. And if you are asking about resolution, I just ran through the original Pokemon Red, even traded and got them all... again. I did it on a GBA with the screen stretched. Don't sound so damn jaded. Graphics are a nice benefit of each successive generation, but if the game is good, a better looking game won't render it obsolete. Is this your first console generation, by any chance?
@excel_excel: I hear they're working on a new DSi, and are going to call it the DSidontcareaboutthelackofagbas...! :p
I kid, I kid.
I just slightly miss the GBA slot. But only when I need some of those ruby or sapphire pokemon. :/ it's a good thing I still have a DSlite and a Phat...!
Weeell, at least they made the speakers look more pleasing to the eye. I didn't like the DSi's speakers, due to the fact that they were just two stereo speaker holes in the top. These look much more pleasing to the eye, at least.
@(Starman) Starman: They seem to be more like the DS Lite's. It also has the glossy exterior of the DS Lite (although it looks a little less prone to fingerprints?).
It's got the rounded edges too. It really looks like a mega sized DS Lite with cameras and no GBA slot O_o Kind of wish the DSi looked like that actually.
@Antica: Because the PSP 3000 was already quite a behemoth. If you already think the 3000 is huge, the fact that it's essentially bigger (or at least less "curvy") is quite a feat! We already knew it was going to be quite a bit bigger than the DSLite/i.
@xxnike629xx: If you have ever once thought that playing GBA or GB games on your TV was a cool idea, I will haunt you from my grave about the "less dpi" argument.
@Cptn.PaxtonAstypalaea(Corsair): The DSi is brighter than the DS Lite, with the Lite's maximum brightness being about equal to the DSi's second highest. People seem to have missed that in the comparison.
@johnnywashngo: yup the battery life is longer; 9 to 11 hour range under mid-level brightness. DSi gets 6 to 9 hours. Those who like to game with max brightness will get 4 to 5 hours play time, up from the current 3 to 4 hours.
You know what I love about this all though? The DS will be 5 years old this December in Japan. And yet their box designs have changed so little.
I imported a first-run DS from Japan, in 2004 when Nintendo was once again dicking Europe about with it's release. The DS came in simple white packaging, barely big enough for the console and the AC adaptor, manuals. And it seems like little has changed. The DS Lite, DSi both had pretty small boxes, the DSi LL doesn't, really. Looks like a lot of wasted space, but at least the simplicity in design is still there.
Not sure where I was going in this post. I'll end my reminiscence here.
@Marios_shadow: ive actually got pretty big hands but while i do find the DS's buttons to be a bit small (I prefer the PSP, even though I haven't used mine in a while), I just can't see myself cramming that thing into my pocket.
@spicyhamster: Cramming? It's only about an inch bigger than the PSP-1000 when folded. Unless you're having trouble "Cramming" that in your pocket this shouldn't be an issue.
Agreed on the PSP part. The buttons on the 2000 were great.
@Marios_shadow: yeah. I was guilty of putting my psp in my pocket a few times, and it definitely wasn't comfortable. I may have been able to get away with it socially in high school, but that was years ago and I doubt college girls would be so forgiving. =/
It's so perfect! No more need for me to get those third-party grips! When folded it doesn't look to be much worse for my pockets than my PSP-1000... I was worried about that.
As long as the screens are good, this will be a launch purchase for me. =)
@Marios_shadow: I agree. It's biggest selling point for me is that it's physically larger, the bigger screen is just a bonus. The DS lite is very uncomfortable for me to play for any length of time.
@WarlordPayne: The DSi LL is pretty damn cool. I bought one this past Saturday on launch day.
My impressions: I must say that I was quite skeptical about the DSi LL when I first saw the pics on Kotaku, but after using it quite a bit last night(playing a few hours of DQIX) it really is great. It's so much easier to hold compared to my DS Lite, especially when I'm lying down in bed. My hands didn't get tired like they normally would after playing a bit on the Lite.
I thought the weight might be something of a problem, but I didn't really notice it too much. It's supposed to be around the same weight as my PSP-1000, but the PSP seems so much heavier. Maybe it's because the weight is spread around more when opened. The PSP feels like a rock in comparison. ;-p
@JayEdGahoover: Sorry for the late reply. The regular stylus goes in the same way as on the DSi/Lite on the right side. The big stylus you need to use separately, it doesn't fit into the system.
@smbu2000: Thanks for the info, smbu2000. It's been bugging me for a while cos in every picture I've seen they only show the big pen. It looks really comfortable to use btw (or maybe that's a sign that I'm getting old)
I'm probably going to get one for my mom. She's been using my DS and complains that some things are hard to see, and I want my DS back, so this seems perfect
At first, I was wondering "Why?" but that thing is freaking huge, so I can see why. For people with big hands or not so hot eyesight, this would be a boon.
@WhatTheFrag: Except for the fact that Eee PCs run all flavours of Linux, Windows, and Mac OS X. The best that the Nintendo DS can come to that is running console Linux or Mac OS 8.
@DemanRisu: well of course that's there. I meant in a passing glance. Not like you're going to look at what someone's doing with their device when you're walking past them.
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I kid, I kid.
I just slightly miss the GBA slot. But only when I need some of those ruby or sapphire pokemon. :/ it's a good thing I still have a DSlite and a Phat...!
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It's got the rounded edges too. It really looks like a mega sized DS Lite with cameras and no GBA slot O_o Kind of wish the DSi looked like that actually.
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- resolution remains the same as dsi and ds lite
- no gba slot is added
hence~
a. if you're only playing ds games, then the dsi is perfect
b. if you want to occasionally play gba games then the ds lite is perfect
c. if you want to use ards or gameshark for ds or gba games, then the ds lite is what you should go for
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If not, then I think I will be getting one to help my eyes out - those small screens are making my eyes twitch these days.
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Longer than a DSi, but not as much as a regular DSlite.
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[kotaku.com]
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It says they both have an equal amount of brightness settings, and does not elaborate any further, unless I completely missed something.
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Though, many of the comments on that article do say what I did.
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I imported a first-run DS from Japan, in 2004 when Nintendo was once again dicking Europe about with it's release. The DS came in simple white packaging, barely big enough for the console and the AC adaptor, manuals. And it seems like little has changed. The DS Lite, DSi both had pretty small boxes, the DSi LL doesn't, really. Looks like a lot of wasted space, but at least the simplicity in design is still there.
Not sure where I was going in this post. I'll end my reminiscence here.
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Agreed on the PSP part. The buttons on the 2000 were great.
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As long as the screens are good, this will be a launch purchase for me. =)
I'm glad I held out on getting a DSi.
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My impressions: I must say that I was quite skeptical about the DSi LL when I first saw the pics on Kotaku, but after using it quite a bit last night(playing a few hours of DQIX) it really is great. It's so much easier to hold compared to my DS Lite, especially when I'm lying down in bed. My hands didn't get tired like they normally would after playing a bit on the Lite.
I thought the weight might be something of a problem, but I didn't really notice it too much. It's supposed to be around the same weight as my PSP-1000, but the PSP seems so much heavier. Maybe it's because the weight is spread around more when opened. The PSP feels like a rock in comparison. ;-p
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Quick question for you; where does the stylus pen go? Is there a slot for it like on the DS/DSi?
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You'd be surprised!
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You know might confuse someone who's travelling and using this for someone using an eeepc type device.
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