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    Image of Orionsaint Orionsaint
    01:23 AM

    In reply to Gamers Not Happy With Japanese Modern Warfare 2
    All I have to say is...there's a Kotaku Japan? I had no idea, seriously.
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    12:39 AM

    In reply to Gamers Not Happy With Japanese Modern Warfare 2
    I feel so Zen right now.
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    Image of Thut Thut
    12/01/09

    In reply to Gamers Not Happy With Japanese Modern Warfare 2
    I find this all kind of strange. Normally Japanese voice acting is so great. And although I only know a bit of Japanese, I can see why they think the performance is a bit flat, lacking their usual panache. Maybe they were misguidedly trying to capture a more "western" style of voice acting to stay truer to the original.
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    Image of royaljester royaljester
    12/01/09

    @Thut: Dubbing is almost never ever as good as the original, no matter which direction you go. Many dubs are so bad they turn it into a comedy. Think martial arts flicks.
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    Image of mcderek3000 mcderek3000
    12/01/09

    In reply to Assassin's Creed II DLC Raises Questions, Possibly Fills Gaps
    So no DLC for the PC. At least I know enough to cancel my pre-order for the already delayed port.
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    Image of Thorax Thorax
    12/01/09

    In reply to Gamers Not Happy With Japanese Modern Warfare 2
    So it's a botched translation and dub?

    Man, I guess those are universal.

    We are not alone.
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    Image of crabperson crabperson
    12/01/09

    In reply to Gamers Not Happy With Japanese Modern Warfare 2
    Wait, that's where you were supposed to go for the second level? No wonder I died!

    ...on Veteran
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    Image of Eltigro Eltigro
    12/01/09

    In reply to Assassin's Creed II DLC Raises Questions, Possibly Fills Gaps
    Isn't Caterina the one he rescues off the island and then gets him passage on the boat to Venice? She does say something about him coming back or something...

    Sorry, don't mean to spoil anything... just trying to remember...
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    Image of Eltigro Eltigro
    12/01/09

    In reply to Changing Video Game Cases Go For The Green
    Me? I'm going to hand weave some natural hemp fibers into little decorative disc covers...

    I saw it in my Assassin's Creed II case. Figured they were trying to save some money. I'm okay with that. It's a recession. Cutting costs is okay. If it just happens make sense ecologically as well as economically, that's fine, too.
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    Image of Eltigro Eltigro
    12/01/09

    In reply to Gamers Not Happy With Japanese Modern Warfare 2
    Stuff like this makes me wonder... are there jokes and Japanese gaming memes where the whole idea is a bad translation from English to Japanese? I mean, we have Engrish and make fun of bad translations all the time (All your base, anyone?)

    Also, how much of the population is this? Is this something the publisher really needs to worry about? I know there are people in Japan who play first person shooters, but I always thought there were a lot less there than in the West.
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    Image of omgwtflolbbqbye omgwtflolbbqbye
    12/01/09

    In reply to Gamers Not Happy With Japanese Modern Warfare 2
    Ok.

    So can someone tell me if the characters speakJapanese with Scottish/American/Russian accents then?

    Or is it just your normal fluent Japanese (which is what it sounds like in the video but just wanted to ask anyways)?
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    Image of Witzbold Witzbold
    12/01/09

    @omgwtflolbbqbye: Japanese has its own dialects but its not like english where you have foreign accents mixed in.

    Actually if you want to know what that would sound like just go ask folks who are learning Japanese to speak Japanese and there you go.

    Back to the main topic at hand usually the "tone" of the character is just determined by the voice of the VA usually. Unless its a comedy they wont really bother trying to add character to it.
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    Image of relatively_speaking relatively_speaking
    12/01/09

    @omgwtflolbbqbye: In Japanese games, there is much less variety as far as accents and dialects are concerned, save for an occasional Okinawan dialect. Studios that localize Japanese games sometimes talk about how much rich variety they have access to with the English language, since, unlike Japanese, it is spoken in many different regions in the world. Only a few languages have as much variety within one language, the greatest example probably being Spanish.

    So short answer: No.

    Think about that next time you watch a dub with a British/Scottish/American sounding character. Whatever that may mean to the English audience was invented largely by whoever localized the game (FF 12 comes to mind as a great example, since so much emphasis was placed on localization and a number of English dialects were used).
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    Witzbold promoted this comment Edited by relatively_speaking at 12/01/09 10:43 PM relatively_speaking was starred relatively_speaking was unstarred
    Image of muu muu
    12/01/09

    In reply to Gamers Not Happy With Japanese Modern Warfare 2
    It's questionable how many people really give a shit about this, though. The hardcore FPS-heads have already purchased the US/Asia versions, and are following along with pretty good user-made translation Wikis. And while subs are great for movies and such, the same can't be said for games where you're getting shot at from all directions. Critical mistranslations can be tragic, but it also does happen more often than not, and yet it'll still be more accessible to a newer audience that's too lazy to read subtitles.
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    Image of wirebrain wirebrain
    12/01/09

    In reply to Gamers Not Happy With Japanese Modern Warfare 2
    Interesting view of localization elsewhere. Looks like they misinterpreted "Remember, no Russian" from meaning the language, to "No Russians left alive".

    I suppose the argument for wanting to have English voices in this game is the same reason that American movies are subtitled (not dubbed) in Japanese theaters. Many Japanese games, released in Japan have English voice overs (often so-so or just... ugh) to replicate that "American movie blockbuster" feel or perhaps it would fit better with the setting, like the clip above for a game that never got to see the light of day in the US...
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    Image of rich8606 rich8606
    12/01/09

    In reply to Gamers Not Happy With Japanese Modern Warfare 2
    Eh? Square is the publisher for the Japanese version?
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    Image of (Zombie) D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid! (Zombie) D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid!
    12/01/09

    In reply to Gamers Not Happy With Japanese Modern Warfare 2
    Why is that screen shot funny at all?

    Plus, some games just don't work in other languages.

    MGS would be shit in Japanese I think, and this is another one. Sometimes we should just suck it up and read subtitles.

    And honestly, if your complaining about reading subtitles, learn to read faster, I can read them and still see pictures just fine.
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    Image of Witzbold Witzbold
    12/01/09

    @(Zombie) D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid!: MGS works quite well in Japanese. I personally cant stand David Hayters work in MGS since it always sounds like hes "trying" too hard to be cool. They really should have gotten someone else who can perform a more naturally without the excessive squeezing my throat trying to sound gruff and macho type of speaking that hes doing.

    The problem is that you dont understand Japanese enough to realize the quality of the work that went into the product so you just brush it off by calling it shit.
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    Image of misc.insanity misc.insanity
    12/01/09

    @(Zombie) D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid!: This is why you are wrong.
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    Image of SG79 SG79
    12/01/09

    @Witzbold:

    Thank you. The JPN MGS VA has always been superior in my book (despite the fact that my Japanese isn't that strong).

    Otsuka is a perfect fit for the character particularly that being a smoker in real life gives his voice the edge.

    Let's not even start on Raiden...
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    Image of Sakilla Sakilla
    12/01/09

    @Witzbold: Ummmmmm. I'm not going to trash the Japanese voice actor. But....David Hayter's delivery is hilariously and wonderfully epic and awesome. I can't believe you completely missed the point of why he rocks as Snake.
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    Image of (Zombie) D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid! (Zombie) D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid!
    12/01/09

    @Witzbold: It doesn't have to do with my lack of understanding of Japanese, it has to do with the settings and characters and everything.

    English just makes it more immersive to me. It's like if I watch a Sony Chiba movie, and it's a dub, it feels stupid and weird and I prefer it much more in Japanese. And I like David Hayter.

    Also, care to explain why the screenshot is funny :D
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    Edited by (Zombie) D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid! at 12/01/09 9:49 PM (Zombie) D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid! was starred (Zombie) D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid! was unstarred
    Image of N●Gage Croal is grabbin' peels N●Gage Croal is grabbin' peels
    12/01/09

    @(Zombie) D Mitsuki, Gotta have guts kid!:
    I think the image is funny because it's some CoD character about to shoot a Square-Enix store? S-E, being the Japanese publisher of MW2.
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    Image of Witzbold Witzbold
    12/01/09

    In reply to Gamers Not Happy With Japanese Modern Warfare 2
    Im almost curious to see the credits of the JP version to see who was "responsible" for the SMASHING job with the localization.
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    Image of KamuZ KamuZ
    12/01/09

    @Witzbold: But that means you will have to buy it! ;)
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    Image of Witzbold Witzbold
    12/01/09

    @KamuZ: With the current USD to JPY rate Id say a big HELL NO to that.

    Even more so considering I get paid in USD.

    With each passing day it keep getting better and better too!
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    Edited by Witzbold at 12/01/09 10:44 PM Witzbold was starred Witzbold was unstarred
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