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Pyrefly
11/22/09

In reply to Microsoft Tesla Owner Records Sounds for Project Gotham Racing?
Please god let them be making PGR5. I know that it won't be bizarre but if they stick to the basic principles of a semi realistic racing game with real cars. It is by far my favourite type of racing game and there seems to be no others like it.
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Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name.
11/21/09

In reply to Microsoft Tesla Owner Records Sounds for Project Gotham Racing?
They made an electric sports car and called it the Tesla?

FINALLY they're getting it. If this doesn't take off I blame the Stonecutters.
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jello44
11/21/09

@Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name.:

Just like I blame them for making Steve Guttenberg a star. Those bastards.
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DARTH_TIGRIS
11/21/09

@jello44: Somebody PLEASE promote these two comments!!!
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Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name.
11/22/09

@jello44: And they rig the Oscars!
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spannu
11/21/09

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The main point was to not record the engine sounds: they wanted a high-performance electric car so that they'd only hear the interaction of the tires with the track and the wind noise, so there's no real indication as to what games it'll end up in. The fact that they recorded the engine at the end is just pragmatic since they can't get all the gear set up every day.
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Jim-sama
11/21/09

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How does PGR compare against Forza and GT as a racing sim?

Never played it you see.
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Phydeaux
11/21/09

@Jetsetharrison: In addition to getting "best times" for tracks, you'd also get rewarded points for doing things while in a race. Drifting, tilting on two wheels, etc. Sometimes entire challenges were based on this instead of time.

I've clocked more time in PGR3/4 than Forza, but I certainly like Forza better.
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Koda89
11/21/09

@Jim-sama: It isn't a racing sim. And it isn't an arcade racer. It is a mix of the two. It has realistic cars and tracks and stuff, but it lacks realistic breaking and focuses on drifting around turns. In fact a heavy part of the games rely on Kudos, aka points you get for doing tricks.

It is the fine line between the Burnouts and Ridge Racers, and the Forzas and Gran Turismos.
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Jim-sama
11/21/09

@Koda89: I see but how successful is it compared to say Forza? (Since it's on Xbox only).

Do you think it's more fun than the other racers?
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Cochese: Now with moxie.
11/21/09

@Phydeaux: PGR isn't a racing sim. That's how it compare. As an arcade racer goes, it's somewhere inbetween sim and arcade. But a little closer to arcade. PGR is a series I've clocked many hours in since the first in the series. If you like arcade racers, there isn't any finer, in my opinion.
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Jim-sama
11/21/09

@Phydeaux: Hmm so it's more of a stunt racer. I remember the first one way back on the original Xbox, what I can't remember was whether I liked it or not!
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nrXic
11/21/09

@Jim-sama: Some of the difference (and fun) lies in the fact that the tracks are made of real world cities. They take large chunks of real cities and you can either make your own paths through them with the track editor or race on their paths.

This means lots of 90 degree turns and sometimes sharper.

I'm a racing nut so I like all high quality racers. This game definitely is a high quality racer. I think it's great fun. See if you can borrow the game from a friend.
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Jim-sama
11/21/09

@nrXic: Unfortunately I don't have an Xbox but I would borrow it if I could.

That track editor seems like fun though.
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Phydeaux
11/21/09

@Cochese: Now with moxie.:

Oh, nonsense. Being able to fuck up in a race and come back and win it makes something an arcade racer. PGR just doesn't know what it is or what it wants. It's closer on the sim side thanks to drifting actually hurting your track time and having licensed vehicles that adhere to realistic, proportionate to the vehicle, stats.
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Cochese: Now with moxie.
11/21/09

@Phydeaux: The stats are only so realistic. The game is still on the arcade style of racing. The physics are only so close to real world physics so as not to appear to be a fantastical racer, but they are still on the arcade side of racing. I'm a huge fan of sim racing and an even bigger fan of this particular franchise, but sim it is not. Even the developers acknowledge it as an arcade racer. I suppose they would know, as they are it's creators.
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TheHeeyyy
11/21/09

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I wonder if Microsoft handed the game over to another developer, or if Bizarre is working on-it.
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Phydeaux
11/21/09

@TheHeeyyy: The former. Since Bizarre is under Activision's umbrella now, they developed and are working on that new Blur IP.
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Cochese: Now with moxie.
11/21/09

@Phydeaux: Isn't the former head of Bizarre working for Microsoft?
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Phydeaux
11/21/09

@Cochese: Now with moxie.:

That'd be a twist. So former Bizarre team members but not Bizarre itself.

Hmm. Guess we won't know until there's more leakage.
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PatMan33
11/21/09

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Tribbles... EVERYWHERE!
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Kobun
11/21/09

@PatMan33: They're trying to mate with the car. :(
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Antiterra
05/19/09

In reply to Bizarre Creations Aims To Bring Fun Back To Racing
I thought the one-syllable-racing-game-Grid-Fuel-Dirt-Pure trend had died down.

I was obviously wrong.

Allow me to suggest: Crash, Burn, Boost, Rage, Ride, Spin, Ice, Free, Rush, Dry, Push, Thrust, Dust, ..........
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metallicorphan
05/19/09

In reply to Bizarre Creations Aims To Bring Fun Back To Racing
not sure what they mean by bringing fun back....PGR4 was one of the best arcade racers ever..i doubt them or anyone will top it for a long time,including Bizarre creations

and no,Blur is shite name...lets cut to the chase shall we..'country house' was fucking crap :)
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Acorn Pop
05/19/09

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"The game also supports four-player split-screen play." "on a track"

To be honest, this is what want out of Burnout. No online multi only, no open world racing... Just tracks and local split screen.

Burnout has made their choice and gone open world, so I must now look elsewhere for my fun. Hoping this and splitsecond will be what I am looking for. We'll see.
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relik
05/19/09

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MSR and the PGR series are the best console racers around imo. I have faith that they know what they're doing, even with this new weapon like system.
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Kobun
05/19/09

@relik: I thought MSR was terrible beyond the music. It looked very pretty, but the actual racing was bogged down with all those restrictions. PGR may be better, but I've avoided the series specifically because of such poor experiences with MSR.
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Striderhayasa - Can we get some damn m/kb support?!
05/07/09

In reply to Project Gotham Racing Devs Explain Last Days With "Corporate, Cocky" Microsoft
I disagree Luke, personally, I think Burnout Paradise is hands down the best racing game of this generation.

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I'm not surprised to hear this but I am surprised that some people actually believe that MS isn't as "bad" as Sony in situations like this. Do you people even realize who we're talking about? Microsoft...the same Microsoft that makes Windows. Microsoft isn't some "down to earth" company that's like your best pal down the street. they're one of the biggest if not the biggest firm on earth. Understand what the fuck that means and these stories come as no surprise.
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SigmundTheSeaMonster
05/07/09

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No matter how much time you spend polishing a tird, it is still a tird; MS uses a buffer. (And no, I loved the PGR series...I'm talkin smack about MS)

Kudos to going to Activision. Though from one Corp to another Corp...we'll have to wait and see. (I did beta testing for Activision and they are not egregious like MS)

This whole process of "get it out the door before it's done" irks me. To rush quality is pure greed. Unrealistic time lines, unattainable goals, ignorant upper management, communication failure.

Rant=off
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RiotControl
05/06/09

In reply to Project Gotham Racing Devs Explain Last Days With "Corporate, Cocky" Microsoft
Is this a joke? A developer complains about their publisher demanding deadlines? News flash: You're not the only studio that has to plant their feet in the ground and say no. They had it a hell of a lot better than most studios out there without and leveraging to postpone releases while releasing the same rehash sequel over and over again.
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TheGreenMan
05/06/09

@RiotControl:

There are deadlines and there are stupid requests regardless of the project.

I worked on a game in which the publisher wanted us to ship a month earlier than what was on the contract to "make the quarter".

We did it, and it was a damn fine game, but not without crunching insane hours.

And you know what we got? Nada. Nothing. The publisher eventually went under, bastards deserved it.

Our CEO was a great guy in that he gave us some bonuses out of his own pocket but if it wasn't for him..
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xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx
05/07/09

@TheGreenMan: There's a difference between a demand and a request though. If MS merely requested that they do it sooner and then on talking let them have the 6 weeks then what's the problem? Nothing got forced on them so it's hardly a nightmare project.

@Vrank92: The dead line wasn't moved up without warning, it was requested they attempt to make the game to a new dead line and they refused so MS backed off. I agree MS should just leave them to the dead line they already set so the game can come out better but nothing was forced on them so MS wasn't in the wrong at all.
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Striderhayasa - Can we get some damn m/kb support?!
05/07/09

@xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx: come on dude, that's not how I read it. Let's take the rosey "we luv us some MS" glasses off. Read that passage again and it sounds like MS DID request the deadline to be pushed up and Bizzare was against it and mentioned they had the current deadline at the time under contract. As you read it, considering MS "didn't realise how bad a situation it would have been - we needed that extra six weeks" shows that this wasn't a case of BC crying over a request. It sounds like MS leaned on them despite the contract and backed off when BC wouldn't budge.

"We were getting disillusioned with Microsoft and they were getting corporate and cocky as well because of the shift in power between them and Sony." That sure as hell doesn't read like MS just made a request.
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Wally P. Kockenhymer III
05/06/09

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Microsoft, Microsoft, Microsoft...wanna see what cockiness gets you? Just look at the PS3.
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fruitsofherwomb
05/06/09

@Bii Nii Wii Nii Politely Replaces You're Your with Your You...:

Working Hardware?

lol.
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Striderhayasa - Can we get some damn m/kb support?!
05/07/09

@fruitsofherwomb: LMFAO! You Win!
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Flesseck
05/06/09

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"How can the publisher that makes exploitation of a franchise a core business aim be any better?"

Wait, what are you referring to with this quote? The fact that they named themselves Activision Blizzard after the merger?
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Luke Plunkett
05/06/09

@Flesseck: [www.penny-arcade.com]
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