I bought RB2 at the $94.99 + Free Shipping price, too and came to the same conclusion. These games are NOT worth $180 - $200. Even $95 seems a little pricey, but it's been fun enough to be worth it, although I wouldn't do it again.
@lionkitten: That was a great sale; even better, the CAG16 code worked for it, so I got it for $91 after tax and shipping. Would've been a better deal if I didn't already have the game...
I'm all over that, assuming I get a job in the next few days and start getting some cash flow coming in. Otherwise, my expenditures are limited to rent, bills, food, and gas.
The price drop is inevitable. The price has been something that has put many off of buying the console since day one. Nobody was try'na hear the whole "But it's a blu-ray player too" line.
If Sony want to try and close the gap between itself and Microsoft, they're going to have to drop the price. Full backward compatibility on a new SKU also wouldn't go a-miss.
Aside from the price slash though, Sony also need to push the console exclusive games and actually promote them. They also need to pump money into promoting the multi format releases. Most multi-format games get advertised as though they're only on Xbox. I don't think I remember seeing a GTA4 advert air that had the PS3 logo or splash on it.
I know its business and a dog eat dog world but, why does Microsoft always make themselves look like a douchebag? Blah blah blah its about making the most money, I know. But I bet Microsoft wont be laughing in HELL.
What I think will be interesting is to see how the 360's price drop affects it's annual profit reports. Greenberg should focus on grandstanding his own business strategies rather than give advice to others.
microsoft is doing this to make people hold off on buying a ps3 during it's early sales season of KZ2 in february and (possibly) god of war 3 in march.
This is all a part of Microsoft's bravado. They act tough and people react negatively, It's very similar to Saddam Hussein refusing to let weapons inspectors into Iraq even though he didn't have any WMD's. He acts tough and his people respect him, he says he's packing and we fear him. We all know where that got him. It's almost exactly the same thing here, only two differences: it's Sony vs. Microsoft, instead of Iraq Vs. America and this time the American side won't get effed up.
@KuromanKuro Live and PSN: "the American side"? I assume that you're casting Sony in that role, though ironically MS is the actual American corporation (please note, this isn't a judgment on America one way or the other). Your metaphor is so mixed that it's hurting my head. On top of that, the good/evil dichotomy is a little histrionic. This isn't war. No one will die based on what console someone buys.
I apologize if that's not what you're saying, but I've read your comment four times now, and I can't get anything more sensible out of it.
Honestly a price cut on the PS3 would be what it took me to buy one. There's only a couple games out that I actually want for it. Coupling the fact that the main reason I'd buy it is for Bluray, the price is what has been putting me off.
+1 I've said before that i find fanboyism to be...counterproductive, Pc speaking. I swore by my PS2, still think it has the greatest library of games. Although I have a 360 and enjoy it, and a Wii, which i gve to my bro, I know that most of the PS2 games i love will be continuing on the PS3. That is the only reason i want a PS3, a good reason, not out of any hatred I have toward any company( pity on those who think that either Sony or MS wouldnt sell u, your soul and your kitten Mr Nibblez to be making Nintendo cash). Honestly though, with my essentials, my new car im am financing, the trips i take every few motnhs, my leaisure activities, and financial uncertainties, I'm not comfortable with the PS3 pricetag.
Not that this will happen, but an entry level Ps3 at a $299 pricepoint does wonders for Sony, I believe. No flame, just logic. The fan boys have the console already. Those who grew up on Sony like myself will fal towards getting one sooner or later. However, the "Wii demographic", as mch as it pains me to say, are where the money is. No I dont think anyone will threaten Wii dominance. What a cut will do is entice theuninitaited nto giving it a try. Honestly the entry level could cut Blu-Ray player. The lower price is attractive to the casuals, and I feel there is a sector of he market that is frightened by the "technologic progressiveness of the slick black box" if that makes sense.
I know there are logistic problems with my idea. No i havent fleshed out a blueprint to get it done, or I would be working for Sony instead of Amazon.com, I'm just saying if that could get done, coupled with the continuance of some of the AAA games from the PS2, profits would increase, while not to Wii levels, definitely would put MS on notice.
Everyone knows the PS3 is getting a price cut before the year is up. It just has to. They do have a bit of catching up to do. Something I expect they will make hay for when FFXIII finally releases. Oh and if a new DQ game is released in Japan for the PS3.
I think they should bundle Killzone 2 with a console AND a price drop. That would be something hard to resist! I'm speaking here on the assumption that KZ2 is good or great or at the very least competent. That would be a coup for Sony who wants to attract a larger user base.
I know this thread will be littered with "Haha M$ pwns $onY noobers!" or whatever nonsense Sony and MS threads gets...Sigh carry on.
@excaliburps: Sorry, the DQ train has left. It is making all local stops bound for Wiiville. s-s-sony (btw, that doesn't mean anything concrete; it's just my absurd answer to m$) is going to have to hope for a detour to Persona 5 Central or Kingdom Hearts Junction.
What Sony needs, I think, is something more like another LBP than a Killzone. Killzone will galvanize the faithful, but if they could come up with something simple and colorful to plug in system ads the way Microsoft Serve (again, just absurd bullshit; read nothing into it) does with Kung Fu Panda (haven't played it; probably sucks), they might have a sexier case to make to the semi-casual gamer.
They're the cadillac of consoles, but a Honda will get you everywhere you need to go, too.
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I bought RB2 at the $94.99 + Free Shipping price, too and came to the same conclusion. These games are NOT worth $180 - $200. Even $95 seems a little pricey, but it's been fun enough to be worth it, although I wouldn't do it again.
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Also, this reminds me I need to jog later.
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If so, neat, he had a crazy gun =P
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If Sony want to try and close the gap between itself and Microsoft, they're going to have to drop the price. Full backward compatibility on a new SKU also wouldn't go a-miss.
Aside from the price slash though, Sony also need to push the console exclusive games and actually promote them. They also need to pump money into promoting the multi format releases. Most multi-format games get advertised as though they're only on Xbox. I don't think I remember seeing a GTA4 advert air that had the PS3 logo or splash on it.
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Can I get a job with MS now?
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Couple months later?
"They didn't? Well that just isn't right. You know, our console is still pretty affordable, though. How many can I put you down for?"
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I apologize if that's not what you're saying, but I've read your comment four times now, and I can't get anything more sensible out of it.
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+1 I've said before that i find fanboyism to be...counterproductive, Pc speaking. I swore by my PS2, still think it has the greatest library of games. Although I have a 360 and enjoy it, and a Wii, which i gve to my bro, I know that most of the PS2 games i love will be continuing on the PS3. That is the only reason i want a PS3, a good reason, not out of any hatred I have toward any company( pity on those who think that either Sony or MS wouldnt sell u, your soul and your kitten Mr Nibblez to be making Nintendo cash). Honestly though, with my essentials, my new car im am financing, the trips i take every few motnhs, my leaisure activities, and financial uncertainties, I'm not comfortable with the PS3 pricetag.
Not that this will happen, but an entry level Ps3 at a $299 pricepoint does wonders for Sony, I believe. No flame, just logic. The fan boys have the console already. Those who grew up on Sony like myself will fal towards getting one sooner or later. However, the "Wii demographic", as mch as it pains me to say, are where the money is. No I dont think anyone will threaten Wii dominance. What a cut will do is entice theuninitaited nto giving it a try. Honestly the entry level could cut Blu-Ray player. The lower price is attractive to the casuals, and I feel there is a sector of he market that is frightened by the "technologic progressiveness of the slick black box" if that makes sense.
I know there are logistic problems with my idea. No i havent fleshed out a blueprint to get it done, or I would be working for Sony instead of Amazon.com, I'm just saying if that could get done, coupled with the continuance of some of the AAA games from the PS2, profits would increase, while not to Wii levels, definitely would put MS on notice.
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I think they should bundle Killzone 2 with a console AND a price drop. That would be something hard to resist! I'm speaking here on the assumption that KZ2 is good or great or at the very least competent. That would be a coup for Sony who wants to attract a larger user base.
I know this thread will be littered with "Haha M$ pwns $onY noobers!" or whatever nonsense Sony and MS threads gets...Sigh carry on.
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What Sony needs, I think, is something more like another LBP than a Killzone. Killzone will galvanize the faithful, but if they could come up with something simple and colorful to plug in system ads the way Microsoft Serve (again, just absurd bullshit; read nothing into it) does with Kung Fu Panda (haven't played it; probably sucks), they might have a sexier case to make to the semi-casual gamer.
They're the cadillac of consoles, but a Honda will get you everywhere you need to go, too.