Ugh, Sony, no...just fucking no. One of the things I really like(d) about the PS3 was the sleek UI. It was simple to navigate, aesthetically pleasing, and had a more 'mature' (for lack of a better word) look to it.
You can already access Facebook easily from the web browser (and, ya know, a fucking computer), and it would be nice to not have the UI even more cluttered than the last update.
If anything, I'd like to see a reduction in the amount of crap on the XMB. #playstation3
@ThisCharmingMan: what's funny about ur comment is that Xbox live has been down for twice as many days this year (I'm sure we all remember the week when connecting to live would take over an hour if at all) so the point u make seems quite invalid.
Didn't this happen with halo 3? Yea....and gears2....yea....
Please do a bit of research before u go and whip up such a bold statement. I bet u love paying More that a dollar per gigabite on ur hard drive too... #modernwarfare2
@jomama22: Why is everyone so quick to label that post as aggressive? All I meant was that I was unaware Sony had outsourced it's servers, and making the assumption that we pay $50 a year so Microsoft can maintain it all ITSELF. Seriously, you all are very, very defensive. #modernwarfare2
Everyone trolling this article going "LOLZ 360 IS SO MUCH BETTER WHO'S LAUGHING NOW PAYING FOR LIVE LOL" needs to take a sip of STFU juice.
I need only remind people of the Christmas when CoD4 came out when Live was down for several days in a row to make my point. I don't need to say anything else. #modernwarfare2
@RockyRan: it wasnt specifically cod4, it was live entirely, soo many people, almost double capacity, tried loggging on and flogged the servers to hell. xbox is not without faults, but its still remains the better service. simply because of MS's effort (buying dlc as a timed exclusive and so on)
and it depresses me sony doesnt do anything about it, i love my ps3, but for multiplatgames, i always go to xbox because its almost guaranteed to have the dlc first, or just have better support.
sony cant fix things as fast because its third parties do all the work, were ms does all their own work, they can easily backtrack problems. #modernwarfare2
@ToastyUterus: That's beside the point. DLC and timed exclusives are also available to people who have Silver accounts. Gold only deals with online multiplayer, which WAS down several days at once despite it being pay-to-play. Sony has absolutely no responsibility for online play. They allow it and provide basic netcode, but are not responsible in any way for it. Microsoft takes nearly all the load and does it by themselves, but their service is just as prone to these server overloads in times of strain.
My point is that Xbox Live is down and it also suffers from hiccups. Xbox fans trying to rub this in PS3 gamers is hypocritical at best. #modernwarfare2
@RockyRan: As a PC gamer, I laugh at both of you. Since *dedicated* servers are run by any number of providers, if one provider goes down, it's a drop in the ocean.
And I don't have to pay for any service except the internet.
@McWarrior: I play online on my PC quite a bit, and I do agree that dedicated servers utterly destroy P2P. I also have a 360 and game on that as well as my PS3, but I'm just particularly bothered that 360 fanboys find this an appropriate time to yell and scream how their precious Live is so much better, as if actively searching for opportunities to proclaim the so-called superiority of their service (despite the fact that both services are competitively comparable).
@Deez: When did I even mention the web browser? Way to put words in my mouth. #modernwarfare2
@MaximumDeer: Why? Activsions servers have gone down on the PS3 side. Whats to assume that thier IWnet won't do the same on the PC side.
At least with dedicated servers the servers are isolated. One goes down you can hop on another. IWnet or Demonware go down and you have no MP till they fix it. #modernwarfare2
@deanbmmv: I sort of hope IWnet does go down, but that would require PC players to actually play that dreck, and I have to much respect for the taste of PC gamers to believe enough of them would. #modernwarfare2
@deanbmmv: That's my point. Demonware is owned by Activision and they are handling PS3 servers, Microsoft is handling Xbox 360 servers and IW is handling PC servers.
Just because Demonware is owned by Activision and IW has videogames published by them, doesn't mean anything will be wrong with the PC servers.
ReconToaster's comment was ignorant and snotty.
ITS ALL THERE BLACK AND WHITE, CLEAR AS CRYSTAL! YOU GET NOTHING! YOU LOSE, GOOD DAY SIR! #modernwarfare2
@McWarrior: 55,000 players peak today.
Compare to 90K on CS:S and 65K on CS1.6. Most anticipated game this decade beaten out by a game that's nearly 10 years old.
Oh yeah, Operation Flashpoint, a game that also uses P2P matchmaking and came a month ago? 135 online currently. #modernwarfare2
Oh, this this fucking golden.
That "3rd party companies hired to do so" isn't 3rd party at all.
Demonware were bought by ATVI in 07. [www.gamesindustry.biz]
IW is actually running these servers themselves, and for some reason attempting to shift the blame as if it was an external company.
Keep the magic coming Bowling, keep it coming. #modernwarfare2
@deanbmmv: I'm not surprised. At all. Like I said to you earlier, it's clear they wanted to skimp out as much as possible on the servers and overskimped. It's completely unethical of Bowling to pretend it's some external company beyond their control, but IW as of late has been one of the most obnoxious and unethical developers this generation. #modernwarfare2
this is like two siblings. one gives the xmas gift to the other to give to the parent, but the other kid only gives half the presnt to their parents.
iw gives the server duties to demonware, demonware only supplies half the required space, now iw has to make activision allow more server space for demonware to use.(as it costs money, it has to be rebudgeted in)
if anyone remembers lack of servers for bf1943, they had to do the same thing with ea, dice had to "request" more servers, and EA had to rebudget them into costs.
demonware is still a third party, and does not report to IW, they report to activision, #modernwarfare2
@ToastyUterus: Unlike BF:1943 though MW2 is a physical good, they knew exactly how many PS3 copies they had to sell, so they knew exactly how much server capacity they needed.
Not a great sign of a company well ran if they can't communicate their multiplayer needs well to an internal company.If they were hiring space from Gamespy, then fine, but as noted these are practically brothers in the ATVI family, they should learn to get on a bit better. #modernwarfare2
-where the hell are the new avatars? its 2009. either put in new ones. or create a system which we can submit avatars, and they go through some tech approval process. i need some old snake on my psn NAO!!! :P
-please fix the friends list. mad gray space for no goddamn reason. link below is a great idea.
-where are dynamic themes for:
-Uncharted
-RAtchet and clank
-MGS4
please plan for GoW3,FF13,GT5 dynamic themes... ya know games we actually want themes for.
- please also consider a approval process to change your psn id. i'm one of those fools who chose a damn psn id that does not mach the handle i use on gaming blogs,irc, etc.
-mkv support would be a nice bonus.
my 300 gb of anime would thank you
@-MasterDex-: Their not really blamming them, Bowling just stated on his twitter that it was Demonware who were the ones who would be taking care of the issue; since this problem directly falls under what they are being payed to do, they (the subsidiary/team) are the ones who are going to fix it. #modernwarfare2
@BMCJ: "PSN servers are ran and maintained by 3rd party companies hired to do so." He says that Modern Warfare 2 multiplayer "will be available as soon as Demonware gets the servers back online ASAP."
That sounds like shifting the blame to me. They don't even ackowledge that Demonware is a subsidiary of Activision. #modernwarfare2
@-MasterDex-: Its not 'they' its one mans twitter... He didn't say "Demonware misunderstood how many players were going to be playing, this problem is related to that", he simply said Demonware is going to be the company to fix this... To me that sounds like praise. Some people are just reading too far between the lines. #modernwarfare2
@-MasterDex-: Additionally that first quote is out of context, hes not talking about MW2 servers being down, hes explaining to someone just who (think generally, for ANY game) the people are that hosts the servers for games. Activision is a third party in this case, hes not talking third party FROM HIS OWN company, but from the eyes of Sony; you cut off the first part of the quote where he mentioned how MS hosts their own servers. #modernwarfare2
@-MasterDex-: demonware is hired to run servers by acitivision, who owns them,
if your boss tells you to do a job, in co-operation with another group of employees, and you fuck up, its your fault, noones shifting blame on you, their just pointing ouit that you fucked up
this is a similar case.
iw, hey acti we need servers for ps3
ok, umm, hey we own demonware, hey you guys, get servers running, ok done iw have fun
thanks acti, oh hey, um, can we have more, alot of people cant even connect online,
what!? demonware WTF is going on!@#
theres a difference between shifting blame, and addressing blame #modernwarfare2
@BMCJ: That's fair enough and I maybe reading too much between the lines, I just found it a bit odd.
@ToastyUterus: Demonware did not fuck up, Activision did. Demonware would have been given an estimate on the workload that would be expected for the release and Activision gave them (or didn't give them) that information which caused the situation. The fact is that it's Activision that underestimated the load and Demonware got the blame and as I can see from your comment, shifting the blame has worked. #modernwarfare2
Can anyone tell me why I'd want facebook integration on my consoles? It's not all that difficult to access it - computers, cell phones, laptops - even if you don't own these things yourself chances are you know someone who does. And even then, the chances of you owning a video game console with an internet connection while simultaneously not owning a computer are next to nil. #playstation3
And IW didn't anticipate server capacity at all?
Come on man, they shipped millions of copies, they knew how much they were intending to sell. They have no excuse in this at all. #modernwarfare2
@deanbmmv: It should be no surprise to anyone that Activision tried to skimp out on the servers as much as possible and see what they could get away with. Better to underspend than to overspend, apparently. #modernwarfare2
@Koztah: Too bad the version in question isn't running on IWnet. Or was reading the article too hard for you before you slammed your meathooks onto your keyboard as fast as you could with a smug look on your face? #modernwarfare2
@FyreWulff: More like, too bad the company who owns and runs IW also owns IWnet, and happens to be the company who owns and runs Demonware. :) #modernwarfare2
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You can already access Facebook easily from the web browser (and, ya know, a fucking computer), and it would be nice to not have the UI even more cluttered than the last update.
If anything, I'd like to see a reduction in the amount of crap on the XMB. #playstation3
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I wanna meet them so I can deck them in the face. #modernwarfare2
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Didn't this happen with halo 3? Yea....and gears2....yea....
Please do a bit of research before u go and whip up such a bold statement. I bet u love paying More that a dollar per gigabite on ur hard drive too... #modernwarfare2
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U are trying to say that paying the 50 dollars a year somehow protects u from this when it clearly hasn't and most likely never will...
I use to pay for live so im not attacking you, its just that comment made no sense.
edit: seriously, i have no problem with you, lol. You should just see some one the trolls arround here...
its like you went to a Catholic church and said that Jesus isn't real...lol
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You don't like Y's and O's with your U's? #modernwarfare2
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I thought you were just pointing out the obvious revelation most of us had, and wishing those afflicted well. #modernwarfare2
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I need only remind people of the Christmas when CoD4 came out when Live was down for several days in a row to make my point. I don't need to say anything else. #modernwarfare2
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and it depresses me sony doesnt do anything about it, i love my ps3, but for multiplatgames, i always go to xbox because its almost guaranteed to have the dlc first, or just have better support.
sony cant fix things as fast because its third parties do all the work, were ms does all their own work, they can easily backtrack problems. #modernwarfare2
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My point is that Xbox Live is down and it also suffers from hiccups. Xbox fans trying to rub this in PS3 gamers is hypocritical at best. #modernwarfare2
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And I don't have to pay for any service except the internet.
It's a pity they took 'em out of MW2, eh. #modernwarfare2
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@Deez: When did I even mention the web browser? Way to put words in my mouth. #modernwarfare2
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Way to convince us of your quality of service guys! #modernwarfare2
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At least with dedicated servers the servers are isolated. One goes down you can hop on another. IWnet or Demonware go down and you have no MP till they fix it. #modernwarfare2
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Just because Demonware is owned by Activision and IW has videogames published by them, doesn't mean anything will be wrong with the PC servers.
ReconToaster's comment was ignorant and snotty.
ITS ALL THERE BLACK AND WHITE, CLEAR AS CRYSTAL! YOU GET NOTHING! YOU LOSE, GOOD DAY SIR! #modernwarfare2
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Compare to 90K on CS:S and 65K on CS1.6. Most anticipated game this decade beaten out by a game that's nearly 10 years old.
Oh yeah, Operation Flashpoint, a game that also uses P2P matchmaking and came a month ago? 135 online currently. #modernwarfare2
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Never before have I seen RTFA mean so much. #modernwarfare2
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@FyreWulff: Nah we got till Tron 2 till that happens. #modernwarfare2
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That "3rd party companies hired to do so" isn't 3rd party at all.
Demonware were bought by ATVI in 07.
[www.gamesindustry.biz]
IW is actually running these servers themselves, and for some reason attempting to shift the blame as if it was an external company.
Keep the magic coming Bowling, keep it coming. #modernwarfare2
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IW does NOT =demonware in any way whatso ever
this is like two siblings. one gives the xmas gift to the other to give to the parent, but the other kid only gives half the presnt to their parents.
iw gives the server duties to demonware, demonware only supplies half the required space, now iw has to make activision allow more server space for demonware to use.(as it costs money, it has to be rebudgeted in)
if anyone remembers lack of servers for bf1943, they had to do the same thing with ea, dice had to "request" more servers, and EA had to rebudget them into costs.
demonware is still a third party, and does not report to IW, they report to activision, #modernwarfare2
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Not a great sign of a company well ran if they can't communicate their multiplayer needs well to an internal company.If they were hiring space from Gamespy, then fine, but as noted these are practically brothers in the ATVI family, they should learn to get on a bit better. #modernwarfare2
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Dear Sony,
-where the hell are the new avatars? its 2009. either put in new ones. or create a system which we can submit avatars, and they go through some tech approval process. i need some old snake on my psn NAO!!! :P
-please fix the friends list. mad gray space for no goddamn reason. link below is a great idea.
-where are dynamic themes for:
-Uncharted
-RAtchet and clank
-MGS4
please plan for GoW3,FF13,GT5 dynamic themes... ya know games we actually want themes for.
- please also consider a approval process to change your psn id. i'm one of those fools who chose a damn psn id that does not mach the handle i use on gaming blogs,irc, etc.
-mkv support would be a nice bonus.
my 300 gb of anime would thank you
-and the usual "AHEM" put in cross game chat.
/end rant.
Edit: i messed up link.
[www.ps3news.com]
go here to see what i mean.
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Also! Background file transfers please. #playstation3
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@Mune: i agree. #playstation3
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they got one thing going, and its pretty half assed if u ask me.
ive yet to find any info on new avatars, pls link me. #playstation3
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That sounds like shifting the blame to me. They don't even ackowledge that Demonware is a subsidiary of Activision. #modernwarfare2
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if your boss tells you to do a job, in co-operation with another group of employees, and you fuck up, its your fault, noones shifting blame on you, their just pointing ouit that you fucked up
this is a similar case.
iw, hey acti we need servers for ps3
ok, umm, hey we own demonware, hey you guys, get servers running, ok done iw have fun
thanks acti, oh hey, um, can we have more, alot of people cant even connect online,
what!? demonware WTF is going on!@#
theres a difference between shifting blame, and addressing blame #modernwarfare2
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@ToastyUterus: Demonware did not fuck up, Activision did. Demonware would have been given an estimate on the workload that would be expected for the release and Activision gave them (or didn't give them) that information which caused the situation. The fact is that it's Activision that underestimated the load and Demonware got the blame and as I can see from your comment, shifting the blame has worked. #modernwarfare2
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Come on man, they shipped millions of copies, they knew how much they were intending to sell. They have no excuse in this at all. #modernwarfare2
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