hmmm, ok Sony, if you want to go there...make it an android phone that has at least 256MBs of RAM,(preferably 512 but I know that's pushing it) a microSD card slot instead of a memstick slot, and battery life that's at least twice that of the g1.
No brainers are a touch screen, access to PSN accounts and the PSN store, gaming over 3g, a dpad and face buttons, a 800mhz CPU, make it a Cell CpU even.
Oh wait...did we just describe the PSP2? OH SHIT! PSP2 is going to be a celly... you heard it here first!
As much as I've been trying to avoid the sony fanboy label lately, I have to admit... i'd get a PSP Phone... If it was on verizon. If it was AT&T, Sony could screw themselves.
@ReconToaster.: He's right. This will take them nowhere but deeper down the hole. Sony is not a contender in the mobile phone scene in general, they probably won't be in the smart phone scene either. They will never be able to generate the buzz Apple, Google or Microsoft can for their product.
Sony needs to remember who their fanbase is. It's not hipsters like Apple, it's not geeks like Microsoft. It's average Joe's for their middle end gear and real connaisseurs for their high end gear. None will run out of their house to buy a new phone that plays games because it's Sony, because both are either tight with their money or too knowledgeable to fall for hype.
This really is madness, and I think nobody should try to run after Apple's market except Microsoft, to be a comfortable second. Everyone else will just fail.
@FP_slomo788: ....wait, what? Sony has PLENTY of mobile phones out there through their Sony Ericsson lines, why on earth would you say they aren't a contender?
Hell, prior to the iPhone, Sony & Motorola were the ones competing for the Mobile Phone / MP3 player combo niche, and Sony was destroying everyone.
"Sony needs to remember who their fanbase is."
...you mean the guys who spent $600 on a gaming console? Or the ones that spent $1,500 on their HDTVs? Hell, press releases just recent from Sony (foolishly) show they want to cater to the "bleeding edge tech freaks" when it comes to the PSPGo, why wouldn't it be any different for their PSPhone?
One could even argue that Microsoft caters MORE to the 'average Joe' market with their introduction of NetFlix, Last.fm, Twitter, and Sky.fm on the 360. Sony is kinda trying to be a sophisticated Apple, if that makes any sense...making everything streamlined and shiny. Not that they're doing a good job at it, but they're trying.
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Won't disagree with you on the whole idea of avoiding it though. What makes this all weird is the fact that Sony & Apple seem to team up a hell of a lot more than Apple/Microsoft on the PS3 (or at least their publishers), it makes you wonder if they're going to pull a stunner and team up with Apple to create the "Gamer Edition" of the iPhone / iPod Touch....hmmmm....
If they teamed up with Apple... no. Lets hope that doesn't happen. Then I'll have to hate Sony, and it all gets really complicated, and I really don't want that to happen.
I think Sony has a great image. They make very reliable, high-end products, and seem to attract a less mainstream, hipster crowd than Apple.
People bought the $600 PS3 at launch because it was a deal. The closest Blu-ray player around was still at $1,000. The PS3 was a blu-ray player bundled in with a gaming platform with GREAT brand recognition.
I think sony could get into the smart phone market, but not with a PSP branded system.
The PSP needs to continue to be a multimedia/gaming device, and that alone. They need to stop being such pussies, and just release a NEW PSP. The need to take the PSPgo, and slap on a second analogue stick, a touch screen, and slightly improved processing/video capabilities, as well as improved multimedia functionality.
That thing would sell like CRAZY... but they're too afraid to make the jump.
So is this the logical progression of the Milo phone?... or is it the remote-play feature (OnLive) fully realized.
On that note... Sony had remote play working long before OnLive ever got announced and they don't get to much credit for that. It shows how badly executed the cool idea was. Maybe they can introduce some devices to the market that will make it completely seamless with something that can work over 3G (not likely I suppose D: )?
@okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under): OnLive has an entirely different philosophy behind it. I don't think Sony ever intended the remote-play to be taken seriously as PS3 on the go, otherwise a larger contingent of games would have supported it.
Though, a device that utilizes the PS3 for server-side rendering would be interesting, but I can't see it working on a mobile level. Maybe an attachment for your computer or something.
If it doesnt force you to buy a data plan it would blow the iphone away. Smart phones all suck because you have to get their outrageously priced data plans even ifthey have wifi built in. ATT is sorry I flat out told their reps how ridiculous it was since I already have ATT internet service at home why should I pay for more internet service from them.Blackbery s the same.Bunch f greedy bastards.
@T3rm1n4L: "Quite refreshing?" You called a blatant trolling post against the iPhone 'refreshing'? Yyyeeeaaaa...while I don't disagree that a PSP Phone would be quite welcome, the iPhone hate from the comments section here have been far from unoriginal.
But then again, I prefer not to be a brand fanboy and would rather have our technology advance forward regardless of who does it. Call me crazy, but I think the consumer wins when fads catch on and force other companies to expand their minds a bit. Who knows, maybe one day the West will be only 5 years away from Japanese phone technology...
@Dope boy hero - on a sabbatical.: If it was compatible with PSP games? I wouldn't be so sure. There is a MASSIVE gulf in quality between the apps on the iPhone and the games on the PSP, and one that isn't likely to be bridged any time soon.
@OMG! Skyman!: PSP is getting a download store, which is one of the main focuses of the PSP Go. It's mostly just the PSN store with wireless downloads.
Now while gamers don't care so much for going through hundreds of cheap games to find the diamonds in the rough, even are prone to impulse buying that the iPhone App store and all mobile games have made millions off of.
Unfortuantly the more expensive an item is, the less likely people are to buy it impulsively
@Kenofthedead: Firstly, the PSN is already a store with wireless downloads. I don't get what you mean by this. I believe that BillyMays+MichaelJackson=Government_Conspiracy is concerned about opening the floodgates of PSP development to everyone the way the App Store is. Personally, I agree, I prefer to have a quality control step along the way from designer to consumer and I'm happy to pay a premium for that.
"Now while gamers don't care so much for going through hundreds of cheap games to find the diamonds in the rough, even are prone to impulse buying that the iPhone App store and all mobile games have made millions off of."
I agree that the amount of application on the iPhone store means that finding a good one is like looking for a needle in a hay-stack, however, I do not agree that "all mobile games" have made millions, either each or combined. Certainly not if you think that the recipients of these "millions" are developers.
"Unfortuantly the more expensive an item is, the less likely people are to buy it impulsively"
While this is true to a point, you can make stuff too cheap. Paying £3.99 for a game, I think "that's inexpensive, I could spend that and not miss it." At the same time, that price carries with it the assumption of value. Drop the price to 99p and I think, "do I really want to spend a pound on something that is probably going to be rubbish, or can I live without it?" Normally, I'll come down on the side of living without it.
I think that the impulse buy sweet spot is hovering around, perhaps just under, the £5 mark. It's enough money to give the product a sense of "value" while still giving you change from the lowest paper denomination in UK circulation.
@MadMinstrel: Uhhh...actually, if you just put it in something the shape of the Pro Duo memory cards and have it somehow communicate over that, I dont' see how that couldn't work. Not that it'd be useful by any means, but it's possible to have accessories that don't fall off.
First people try to copy the Wii, now they're all trying to copy the iPhone.
Why can't these companies just ignore all that riff raff for the fads they are. Sony and Microsoft, please continue giving us real games on real consoles, and let Nintendo and iApple do their own shit.
@Kenny: I'm curious as to how you think this is copying the iPhone.
Sony has been making mobiles that played games for years, as have many others. In Japan you can play Metal Gear Solid with more or less Playstation graphics, some upcoming PSP games started off as Mobile Phone games.
For them to start working on a mobile that does what previously made phones have done, but more suited for games isn't copying, it's competition.
Yeah, because if you dare tell an iPhone fanboy/girl that there are better, more capable phones out there, they will claw and hiss at you... probably spit venom, too.
While there are phones with better hardware and features, the iPhone, IMO, has managed to stay popular due to its fantastic OS and App Store. And you can't really find a better mobile OS or a better App downloading service than those found on Apple's device.
why don't they put the phone as a part of the psp3 as an extra feature instead of just having two different portable gaming platforms. 1 part phone and 1 with no phone. kinda dumb.
@MellowJade: No, but on those days when Internet porn just isn't enough and they need some semblance of an illusion of a human connection, they do call phone sex services. Ideally, with a PlayStation phone on which they could then go back to playing loli dress-up with Idolmaster.
06/27/09
No brainers are a touch screen, access to PSN accounts and the PSN store, gaming over 3g, a dpad and face buttons, a 800mhz CPU, make it a Cell CpU even.
Oh wait...did we just describe the PSP2? OH SHIT! PSP2 is going to be a celly... you heard it here first!
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Witzbold I find your comments quite extreme.
06/27/09
Sony needs to remember who their fanbase is. It's not hipsters like Apple, it's not geeks like Microsoft. It's average Joe's for their middle end gear and real connaisseurs for their high end gear. None will run out of their house to buy a new phone that plays games because it's Sony, because both are either tight with their money or too knowledgeable to fall for hype.
This really is madness, and I think nobody should try to run after Apple's market except Microsoft, to be a comfortable second. Everyone else will just fail.
06/27/09
Hell, prior to the iPhone, Sony & Motorola were the ones competing for the Mobile Phone / MP3 player combo niche, and Sony was destroying everyone.
"Sony needs to remember who their fanbase is."
...you mean the guys who spent $600 on a gaming console? Or the ones that spent $1,500 on their HDTVs? Hell, press releases just recent from Sony (foolishly) show they want to cater to the "bleeding edge tech freaks" when it comes to the PSPGo, why wouldn't it be any different for their PSPhone?
One could even argue that Microsoft caters MORE to the 'average Joe' market with their introduction of NetFlix, Last.fm, Twitter, and Sky.fm on the 360. Sony is kinda trying to be a sophisticated Apple, if that makes any sense...making everything streamlined and shiny. Not that they're doing a good job at it, but they're trying.
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Won't disagree with you on the whole idea of avoiding it though. What makes this all weird is the fact that Sony & Apple seem to team up a hell of a lot more than Apple/Microsoft on the PS3 (or at least their publishers), it makes you wonder if they're going to pull a stunner and team up with Apple to create the "Gamer Edition" of the iPhone / iPod Touch....hmmmm....
06/27/09
If they teamed up with Apple... no. Lets hope that doesn't happen. Then I'll have to hate Sony, and it all gets really complicated, and I really don't want that to happen.
I think Sony has a great image. They make very reliable, high-end products, and seem to attract a less mainstream, hipster crowd than Apple.
People bought the $600 PS3 at launch because it was a deal. The closest Blu-ray player around was still at $1,000. The PS3 was a blu-ray player bundled in with a gaming platform with GREAT brand recognition.
I think sony could get into the smart phone market, but not with a PSP branded system.
The PSP needs to continue to be a multimedia/gaming device, and that alone. They need to stop being such pussies, and just release a NEW PSP. The need to take the PSPgo, and slap on a second analogue stick, a touch screen, and slightly improved processing/video capabilities, as well as improved multimedia functionality.
That thing would sell like CRAZY... but they're too afraid to make the jump.
06/27/09
On that note... Sony had remote play working long before OnLive ever got announced and they don't get to much credit for that. It shows how badly executed the cool idea was. Maybe they can introduce some devices to the market that will make it completely seamless with something that can work over 3G (not likely I suppose D: )?
06/27/09
Though, a device that utilizes the PS3 for server-side rendering would be interesting, but I can't see it working on a mobile level. Maybe an attachment for your computer or something.
06/27/09
Remote play was also very focused on video playback, wasn't it?
06/27/09
Or... I do, anyhow. Yay external Harddrives!
06/27/09
He said something about a PSP phone with a touchscreen? Which I read here on Kotaku...
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06/27/09
Funny, I have a BlackBerry Curve from AT&T, and I wasn't required to get the data plan.
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06/27/09
Oh shut up you stupid fanboy. geez...
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But then again, I prefer not to be a brand fanboy and would rather have our technology advance forward regardless of who does it. Call me crazy, but I think the consumer wins when fads catch on and force other companies to expand their minds a bit. Who knows, maybe one day the West will be only 5 years away from Japanese phone technology...
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06/27/09
I would love to see a PSP Phone that keeps the PSP developers. If the PSP gets an app store, then sony sucks.
06/27/09
Now while gamers don't care so much for going through hundreds of cheap games to find the diamonds in the rough, even are prone to impulse buying that the iPhone App store and all mobile games have made millions off of.
Unfortuantly the more expensive an item is, the less likely people are to buy it impulsively
06/29/09
"Now while gamers don't care so much for going through hundreds of cheap games to find the diamonds in the rough, even are prone to impulse buying that the iPhone App store and all mobile games have made millions off of."
I agree that the amount of application on the iPhone store means that finding a good one is like looking for a needle in a hay-stack, however, I do not agree that "all mobile games" have made millions, either each or combined. Certainly not if you think that the recipients of these "millions" are developers.
"Unfortuantly the more expensive an item is, the less likely people are to buy it impulsively"
While this is true to a point, you can make stuff too cheap. Paying £3.99 for a game, I think "that's inexpensive, I could spend that and not miss it." At the same time, that price carries with it the assumption of value. Drop the price to 99p and I think, "do I really want to spend a pound on something that is probably going to be rubbish, or can I live without it?" Normally, I'll come down on the side of living without it.
I think that the impulse buy sweet spot is hovering around, perhaps just under, the £5 mark. It's enough money to give the product a sense of "value" while still giving you change from the lowest paper denomination in UK circulation.
06/27/09
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06/27/09
Why can't these companies just ignore all that riff raff for the fads they are. Sony and Microsoft, please continue giving us real games on real consoles, and let Nintendo and iApple do their own shit.
06/27/09
Sony has been making mobiles that played games for years, as have many others. In Japan you can play Metal Gear Solid with more or less Playstation graphics, some upcoming PSP games started off as Mobile Phone games.
For them to start working on a mobile that does what previously made phones have done, but more suited for games isn't copying, it's competition.
06/27/09
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06/27/09
Yeah, because if you dare tell an iPhone fanboy/girl that there are better, more capable phones out there, they will claw and hiss at you... probably spit venom, too.
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06/27/09
While there are phones with better hardware and features, the iPhone, IMO, has managed to stay popular due to its fantastic OS and App Store. And you can't really find a better mobile OS or a better App downloading service than those found on Apple's device.
06/28/09
Palm's OS for their phone is far superior to Apple's. And it has apps too.
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05/08/09
We all know gamers don't have a social life.
:'D
05/08/09
Then, their world would truly be complete.