There always seems to be people on Home whenever I hop in to get my free loot or play the latest mini-game so it's not an utter failure. Although I always wonder what the majority of the people are doing there as they all just seem to be standing around. EA has some nice little mini-games like the poker room though, they really should expand it so more people can play.
Also I find it annoying the Home space for different regions is separated, they should just shove everyone together so there's more people around. I had to install the JPN PSN version of Home just to gawk at the Gundam statue this past summer, a waste of HD space :|
The only games I have ever been able to play in Home is Echochrome and "Hey, this looks like fun. Let's wait in line and NEVER PLAY THE FREAKING THING" game.
Sony, until you get over the idea of making your bowling alley as realistic as waiting in line for your shoes, it's always going to be a passing curiosity.
They should really try to integrate casual games more seamlessly with home.
If my PSN High Stakes Poker game became a room in Home accessible for those that purchased the game, I'd be playing that sucker a lot. Instead I'm stuck with hastily made ad ware that's time consuming to initiate.
All I'll say, is someone get on the blower to both EA and Sid Meier.
If they can get Civilisation, and Command & Conquer on Facebook, then I see no reason why they can't bring them to Home either. It's by and large an untapped advertising space and allows for a different way to experience things. I'm not a fan of Home myself but if I had cool things to do like play a tabletop GDI vs NOD with a buddy without having to download a huge game, then I'd gladly reinstall Home.
@James Henderson: I´m not sure what deal Sony is offering developers for in Home content like that but i imagine they´d have a tough time to beat something like facebook where developers can instantly roll out updates and also roll their own micro transaction systems which is the main income ressource for this type of game.
@James Henderson: Home certainly is open to a lot of potential and hopefully as Sony take a look back at the year it had, they'll pick out what worked and what people liked and expand from there.
The idea of playing an RTS game on a virtual tabletop in home is certainly a nice one.
@James Henderson: hell yes... if I could jump into a stripped down version of C&C in home (perhaps in a Red Alert 3 space) with random players then I would be on that stuff constantly.
Heck, they could even micro-transaction the shit out it with unit reskins, or even access to special units!
@tomsamson: Other companies can still do the micro-transactions, as add-ons and stuff are all handled via a PlayStation Store pop-up once you access an in-Home store. The only thing is that it's going through Sony and they're obviously going to be wanting their cut out of any trading that happens in Home.
@James Henderson: how else would you be able to get HOME content? Both MS & Sony take their cut of the Avatar stuff they sell on their respective console. i dont know about on MS part but i saw a month or so ago that devs actually make their intial invest in Home content back rather quickly.
It's a Christmas tree, NEVER refer to it as anything else because it's not anything else.
This may be a crap comparison because I unfortunately am not very up on other peoples rituals but the Hanukkah Menorah is not just a candle stick holder and I would think many out there would feel upset at the re-branding of it that way. (maybe they wouldn't but I couldn't find a Christmas tree equivalent)
Just because we live in a multicultural society, doesn't mean that we have to give up/change OUR culture just like how we wouldn't (or shouldn't) expect anyone else to give up theirs.
More over all kids who are allowed to celebrate Christmas love it. Why try to change it?
@FrankieViturello: Don't they understand the spirit of Festivus? It's not about commercialism, or the selling of intangible virtual goods. It's about the airing of grievances!
If it does, I'll make sure I get this. If it doesn't, I'll try and work it in to my busy end-of-semester schedule. With no trophies, I don't know if I'll ever have any incentive to try out a casual game, no matter how fun it is, as opposed to tackling one of the other hundreds of games I've got sitting unplayed in my backlog.
@Mit: Every game that has been released since early this year has to have trophies (minus the demos).
I can't believe that YOU and other people's mentality is that you don't think a game is worth it unless you get a virtual reward that does absolutely nothing. What happened to the days when you play a game because it's fun, not OMG it may have a easy trophies/gamer points.
@Neko_Tech: Whoah whoah, one look at my game collection and you can tell I don't play games just for achievements, especially with how many older games I still have to play, and how many subpar games most people wouldn't bother with that I play, just for the experience because I love games so much. (note: subpar games without achievements... I suppose that could be interpreted that I play subpar games for achievements.)
Diner Dash just isn't a game I would bother with due to its casual nature. Casual games to me come off as glorified time killers, and I don't often have time to kill. If I've got time to game, I'll spend it on a more full-fledged game that has a more traditional single player experience with some sort of ending, rather than a more competitive, high-scoring type of game such as Diner Dash.
Although I do play some glorified time killers still, such as Battlefield 2 and Team Fortress 2 :P (yes, I consider multiplayer-only games timekillers. Fun, but in the end I'm not accomplishing anything except boosting my self-confidence/pride).
Anyhow, achievements/trophies give me a goal in timekiller games to achieve. I can experience the game, accomplish some goals, and feel comfortable with putting it away.
If I've got nothing to accomplish, I play it for a while, and I either feel like I haven't played it enough to justify my money's worth if I play it too little, or I feel like I've wasted too much time on it if I play it too long.
I don't know, maybe I'm crazy, but these are the things you consider when you've got games piling up faster than you can complete them.
@Neko_Tech: Technically speaking, "scores" have been around since the beginning of video games . . . and that's basically the same thing as a trophy.
Just now we get a virtual metal opposed to a virtual number. In the late '80s you couldn't have convinced many people to play Tetris if it didn't give you a score . . . that's really not much different than now. The mentality makes sense: if this game isn't going to give me something rewarding in a story (which Diner Dash isn't), it better at least give me SOMETHING for my effort.
@Mit: Sorry, I guess I took your previous statement as one of those people who don't play games unless it has some kind of pointless rewards, not in game reward.
I've seen plenty of people who snub off a great game just because it doesn't have trophies like Valkyria Chronicles for example even though they claim they like that kind of genera.
I never knew there was a site like that ([backloggery.com]). I may have to use it now and I have a lot of back logged games to go through :p. Most of my games were impulsive buy because it was cheap ^_^.
@bangbangblah: That may be true but come on. Now our game saves are limited like if I was let say lazy or I just didn't have the skill/time to unlock something special but the game required you to beat the game on the most punishing difficulties or beat it multiples times.
I can't just use someones game save that have it unlocked because their game save isn't linked to my profile all because of people thinking that gamer score/trophies actually mean something.
Back in the good old days, there were some sort of codes or password for those to unlock if they wished or game saves were not locked. Now if you want that privilege you have to end up buying the unlock keys for that game *cough EA* *cough Bandai/Nacmo*.
@Neko_Tech: If you are too lazy to play the game through, then you don't deserve to unlock that something special . . . it's a reward. You have to earn it! That's the whole point.
the linked article is the one about a near identical announcement for the 360 (with the exception that you can't do anything with an avatar) written by the same author in which he shows enthusiasm for the avatar costumes.
I'm not usually one to bitch on reporting but this seems to show incredible bias. Home is popular and liked among the people who use it. Its free. Why must the service be mocked at every turn?
It's nice to see that the standard insults against Home have shifted slightly from "nothing to do" (because these days nothing could be further from the truth) to quips about how "lifeless" the avatars look.
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Also I find it annoying the Home space for different regions is separated, they should just shove everyone together so there's more people around. I had to install the JPN PSN version of Home just to gawk at the Gundam statue this past summer, a waste of HD space :|
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Sony, until you get over the idea of making your bowling alley as realistic as waiting in line for your shoes, it's always going to be a passing curiosity.
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If my PSN High Stakes Poker game became a room in Home accessible for those that purchased the game, I'd be playing that sucker a lot. Instead I'm stuck with hastily made ad ware that's time consuming to initiate.
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That sucks.
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MMO's might help Home, but save it? I don't know. We need a reason to have to log into Home and right now there just isn't any reason at all.
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If they can get Civilisation, and Command & Conquer on Facebook, then I see no reason why they can't bring them to Home either. It's by and large an untapped advertising space and allows for a different way to experience things. I'm not a fan of Home myself but if I had cool things to do like play a tabletop GDI vs NOD with a buddy without having to download a huge game, then I'd gladly reinstall Home.
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The idea of playing an RTS game on a virtual tabletop in home is certainly a nice one.
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Heck, they could even micro-transaction the shit out it with unit reskins, or even access to special units!
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This may be a crap comparison because I unfortunately am not very up on other peoples rituals but the Hanukkah Menorah is not just a candle stick holder and I would think many out there would feel upset at the re-branding of it that way. (maybe they wouldn't but I couldn't find a Christmas tree equivalent)
Just because we live in a multicultural society, doesn't mean that we have to give up/change OUR culture just like how we wouldn't (or shouldn't) expect anyone else to give up theirs.
More over all kids who are allowed to celebrate Christmas love it. Why try to change it?
On the flip side, nice to see more stuff in Home
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It's funny cos it could be true
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If it does, I'll make sure I get this. If it doesn't, I'll try and work it in to my busy end-of-semester schedule. With no trophies, I don't know if I'll ever have any incentive to try out a casual game, no matter how fun it is, as opposed to tackling one of the other hundreds of games I've got sitting unplayed in my backlog.
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[www.ps3trophies.org]
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I can't believe that YOU and other people's mentality is that you don't think a game is worth it unless you get a virtual reward that does absolutely nothing. What happened to the days when you play a game because it's fun, not OMG it may have a easy trophies/gamer points.
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Diner Dash just isn't a game I would bother with due to its casual nature. Casual games to me come off as glorified time killers, and I don't often have time to kill. If I've got time to game, I'll spend it on a more full-fledged game that has a more traditional single player experience with some sort of ending, rather than a more competitive, high-scoring type of game such as Diner Dash.
Although I do play some glorified time killers still, such as Battlefield 2 and Team Fortress 2 :P (yes, I consider multiplayer-only games timekillers. Fun, but in the end I'm not accomplishing anything except boosting my self-confidence/pride).
Anyhow, achievements/trophies give me a goal in timekiller games to achieve. I can experience the game, accomplish some goals, and feel comfortable with putting it away.
If I've got nothing to accomplish, I play it for a while, and I either feel like I haven't played it enough to justify my money's worth if I play it too little, or I feel like I've wasted too much time on it if I play it too long.
I don't know, maybe I'm crazy, but these are the things you consider when you've got games piling up faster than you can complete them.
12/09/09
Just now we get a virtual metal opposed to a virtual number. In the late '80s you couldn't have convinced many people to play Tetris if it didn't give you a score . . . that's really not much different than now. The mentality makes sense: if this game isn't going to give me something rewarding in a story (which Diner Dash isn't), it better at least give me SOMETHING for my effort.
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I've seen plenty of people who snub off a great game just because it doesn't have trophies like Valkyria Chronicles for example even though they claim they like that kind of genera.
I never knew there was a site like that ([backloggery.com]). I may have to use it now and I have a lot of back logged games to go through :p. Most of my games were impulsive buy because it was cheap ^_^.
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I can't just use someones game save that have it unlocked because their game save isn't linked to my profile all because of people thinking that gamer score/trophies actually mean something.
Back in the good old days, there were some sort of codes or password for those to unlock if they wished or game saves were not locked. Now if you want that privilege you have to end up buying the unlock keys for that game *cough EA* *cough Bandai/Nacmo*.
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[kotaku.com]
the linked article is the one about a near identical announcement for the 360 (with the exception that you can't do anything with an avatar) written by the same author in which he shows enthusiasm for the avatar costumes.
I'm not usually one to bitch on reporting but this seems to show incredible bias. Home is popular and liked among the people who use it. Its free. Why must the service be mocked at every turn?
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