I think many of you don't realize how vindictive gamers can be. I remember a few years ago when Battlefield 2142 was largely ignored by a significant portion of the audience [for varying reasons] - to this day, it's easier to find a good BF2 server than one running its sequel. I forsee history repeating. #modernwarfare2
You know... I understand using VAC and the integration with Steam.
But for the love of God/Buddha/Ozzy Osbourne, who was the one who though that removing the ability to have dedicated servers was a good move for the community?
In order to have a solid community you need dedicated servers. This is not even a debatable issue, just look at stats. Games like QuakeWorld and Quake 2 and UT99 are still being played today because the community could maintain itself without depending on "X" company. Yes, the community is small for those games, but it still exist and that's the whole point.
I will love to see how much support they will give to this game once Modern Warfare 3 hits the stores.
COD:MW2 is a FPS, and COD:MW2 for PC is a FPS for PC, not an FPS for consoles or an MMORPG, or whatever those funny looking games call themselves, these kind of games need dedicated fans that have the ability to keep the community going.
Death to PC gaming. I mean seriously consoles are cheaper, better graphics, better players, and voice chat. PC offers voice chat but it's always so crackly you can't hear a thing. PC gaming is last year. Yeah, yeah, roots whatever. Who cares about roots. Let's move on, for crying out loud. No one buys PC games anymore. The only people signing this petition are people who are going to pirate the game anyway. I'm sick of PC Gamers feeling more self worth because they can "aim" with a mouseball and move with WASD. Go cry me a river. Anyone with a right mind will tell you MW was the best on the 360. All in all I hope this is another nail in the PC Gaming coffin! #modernwarfare2
@Ikzai: hahahahah you have never played any sort of competitive pc game. The quality of your "amazing" gaming platform is shit compared to what you get on a pc, and that isn't an opinion. #modernwarfare2
@Twik63: Dude, don't even bother giving trolls/asshats like this the satisfaction of a response. Leave them in their ignorance and know that it's one less jackass to deal with online with PC. #modernwarfare2
@Twik63: Call me when Halo 3 or Gears of War 2 is on the PC. Oh wait, you'll be too busy playing that Half Life 1 game... Counterforce or something. #modernwarfare2
@Ikzai: Here is the truth, and you may find this hard to grasp... some people find CS to be superior to Halo 3 and Gears of War 2. Why is that? It is a solid FPS. It's graphics are dated, but the gameplay works well, the game has a decent community, there is a great amount of variation, and a strong competitive league. In fact, many people who still play CS or other PC shooters actively don't feel Halo 3 or GoW2 are that great or unique. I played through GoW2's campaign with a friend, and believe me, if it wasn't for the fact that I could sit there with him and play, I would have put that controller down and left. I spent more time making fun of the game for all the testosterone it was trying to leak than actually enjoying the story or gameplay. The multiplayer experience... was lackluster, at best. And I know for a fact that is a sentiment that was shared by many due to bad support and glitchy gameplay. I also don't enjoy Halo 3 that much... I really only play it, again, when I'm sitting with friends. I would honestly rather play older PC games like Tribes, CS, and Quake 3, or more recent games like TF2 or L4D (both of which are on the 360, but undeniably better on the PC... if you refuse to believe that you ARE a fool, end of story). That said, those are my preferences and the preferences of many others. Just as some others prefer GoW 2 and Halo 3. With any luck, you have the brain to understand that. Newer does not always mean better. Hell, GoW 2's online multiplayer was so badly screwed up at the beginning, it is ridiculous you would actually hold that up as a good example. #modernwarfare2
@-MasterDex-: Stupid because I don't play in with your mindset?
oh and for the record, you have a few good points man. A few good ones. But seriously LOL at calling TF2 or L4D good games. Those games are like taking a dump and bagging it, then putting an XBOX 360 sticker on it, and selling that bag for $60. #modernwarfare2
@Ikzai: Again, you're proven your own stupidity by saying TF2 and L4D are crap.
Saying you don't play in with my mindset doesn't change the fact that that your original post is full of idiotic and frankly totally false statements. #modernwarfare2
@Techno-Atom: You can say what you feel, but if you read through is post at the top, from the 8/9 or so propperly constructed sentances, 7 of them have completely false information in them. The other sentances have some fairly subjective opinions in them, tbh. His opinion is blinded by the fact that he doesn't play PC games, and it looks like he never has, because, if he did, he would definitely have a diffent outlook on it.
I'm not strictly a PC gamer, as i have a PS3, Wii, DS, PSP and a damn good PC for gaming. I'm actually quite into playing my PS3 at the moment.
And there are some games i do prefer to play on PC. But to say that no one plays PC, PC gaming is dead, and that the only people who are signing the petition are pirates etc etc, is complete and utter bullsh*t. And if you agree with the views of Ikzai, i feel that there is something wrong your arguement as your views seem to be completely one sided, uneducated, and have a strong wreak of fanboyism.
There is nothing wrong with prefering XBOX 360 over other platforms, but if you want to try and make a valid point, then at east have the knowledge/education/experience to back it up. Because what Ikzai wrote, it just plain wrong. #modernwarfare2
@-MasterDex-: It's like talking to a wall when it comes to people like him. Some would call him a troll, some would call him ignorant, and some would just call him plain wrong. I'm with all of the above.
Sad to see that some people cant see games for what they are. I can appreciate some games, despite not liking the genre/platform. Something that Ikzai doesn't seem to be able to do. #modernwarfare2
@Ladi: Nominated it as soon as i promoted it.I rather enjoyed reading through that, well, actually singing my way through it. Good stuff GarbageDonkey #modernwarfare2
It's really irritating seeing the amount of ignorance as to why PC gamers are upset. If you're only online experience is through console matchmaking and you didn't even know what a dedicated server was until yesterday, please take 10 minutes to do a quick Google search and educate yourselves. #modernwarfare2
I'm starting to feel like the Left 4 Dead 2 fiasco was one cry of wolf too many, so now when something with legitimate potential to be detrimental to PC gaming occurs, people are tired of hearing about petitions. #modernwarfare2
For those who do not understand what the fuss is about:
I'm normally an advocate of the "don't bash something until you've tried it out yourself" view, but in this case IW has made an undeniably bad move. Dedicated servers very strongly influence a PC game's longevity in a way that a matchmaking system cannot. The basic technical advantages of dedicated servers over non-dedicated servers are very obvious and well known to any serious PC gamer (who plays multiplayer, of course):
These are all important, though some non-dedicated servers -can- be capable of providing comparable experiences - and trust me, most will not be able to nicely handle 32 players running amok. More importantly though, 24/7 dedicated servers allow for choice and a way to find a place to call home. This is achieved by:
-Allowing custom mods, HUGE for increasing the longevity of your game. Do you think games such as CS would have lasted nearly so long if it wasn't for the myriad of mods users created and shared? While the core gameplay was loved by many, mods kept gamers interested when vanilla CS bored them. DM, Superhero, Warcraft, Hooks, Zombie/Night mods, etc., etc., the list goes on and on. Without dedicated servers, none of this would have been possible and I can guarantee you CS would not have lasted as long as it did. The same can be said for nearly ANY successful multiplayer PC game.
-Creating a community. Dedicated servers allow for you to create a place where others can call their gaming home. This goes hand in hand with the above, mods. PC gamers often tend to drift between servers until they hit upon one that is filled with many players they actually like, with settings they actually like, filled with admins who will actually actively patrol and better the community of the server. You CANNOT do that with matchmaking. At most, matchmaking lets you say, hey, I liked playing with this guy... let me friend him, and every so often, you'll play with him, and maybe together with a few others on your friends list if you put together the effort. I guess a decent analogy would be that matchmaking lets you make friends, and you can maybe go crash places with them, with sporadic attendance; dedicated servers give you and your friends a place to customize and call home. I play TF2 heavily - I am part of a clan, filled with people that are awesome to me 24/7, with admins who are always on that actively kick griefers and trolls, with regularly scheduled events to keep the clan competitive and fun.If TF2 was rid of dedicated servers and relied solely on matchmaking, this would not be possible. Hell, the TF2 community probably would not be half of what it is now.
There will be those who say, look at games such as L4D, GoW, and Halo, they use matchmaking systems and they do decently. Which is true. However, the experience is vastly DIFFERENT. L4D, at most, uses 8 players. It is very easy to host on a half decent machine due to this. GoW... well, scratch that one. Halo... everyone has different opinions, though it is solid for the most part. But the one thing that remains true is that you will never have 32-64 players who can for the most part all get along well and have a great time, who all know each other solely from playing with each other. Basically, if you don't understand anything else, know that by having matchmaking only, you are removing a large part of what makes PC multiplayer game so amazing to PC gamers.
That said... COD:MW2 will still have a huge MP base simply from it's name. But unless the game is significantly better, the overall experience will be worse. #modernwarfare2
@omgwtflolbbl: Well said. Wish we could sticky it. I don't think the majority of console players get this (or apparently IW), or understand why the fans of dedicated servers are so passionate. #modernwarfare2
A complete game ruiner. I rarely play Left 4 Dead anymore purely because of the rubbish server/match making thing going on where you can't even choose a decent ping server.
It's the only system L4D had, so people had to live with it. It doesn't mean it was a good system...it sucks.
And now I have to suffer this console-esque crap in what was my most anticipated online game since the last CoD...
I liked going to the same servers where I got to know players who frequent them. And don't say 'add them as friends' because it's not like that at all...adding as a friend is too personal, and is not the same as enjoying the odd game with the same people who tend to play on certain servers. #modernwarfare2
Sales on the PC version would probably suck once people find out about the lack of dedicated servers. Thing is, PC gamers should be trying to convince console gamers to support their petition.
Yesterday, I hadn't really thought about console games getting dedicated server support until RockyRan mentioned that. Then I remembered that Warhawk, Killzone 2 and (to a certain degree) Demon's Souls had dedicated servers.
I think the real way to challenge Activision/InfinityWard is to convince console players to support PC gamers. Because at this rate, even if the entire PC market were to balk at MW2, the console market would buffer the losses from the PC market.
Why can't they have both? People make Dedicated servers and then the matchmaking can look among them for a game that meets the players game type choices. Then we can also pick favorite servers to go back to if the community and rule set are to our liking. All this is doing is going to degrade the ability to make a coherent game community that has fun while playing with the same people. #modernwarfare2
@Darkest Daze: Kinda the same way L4D PC works with the whole sv_search_key 'server name' in the console that allows you to directly connect to that server when launching a game from the lobby. #modernwarfare2
@Darkest Daze: That's what I was thinking also. Why not have both? Probably because it'll be too much work and hassle for them and may cause potential delays on future patches.
@DrunkAus: I tried setting up a private server and it was pain in the ass to set up and forwarding everyone because of the console commands. But I do give credit to Valve since they allow us the option to do so but I wish that it was simpler process. #modernwarfare2
@CustomFirmware: who cares i like playing on my 360 or ps3 it gets old hearing pc gamers braggin about how much better they are bc they play on their "superior" system #modernwarfare2
@CustomFirmware: Features and specs mean jack shit when the selection of games is shit.
If I wanna play FPS, MMO's or RTS then yea PC is king, if I wanna play oh EVERY OTHER GENRE UNDER THE SUN then consoles are the way to go. #modernwarfare2
@TAIKREDE: You're completely missing the point. This issue is not at all about silly PC vs. console arguments. Basically, there's nothing wrong with a console gamer who enjoys matchmaking on consoles, but PC gamers prefer a different system that gives players more options.
Honestly, I'm trying to put this the nicest way possible, but if you are strictly a console gamer then this whole subject doesn't involve you, nor require your input. #modernwarfare2
"i love how some pc gamers think they are so much better than console users"
has jack shit to do with the issue at hand, and really makes you sound like an ignorant twat. How is that at all relevant to you being informed on the issue at hand? Seriously, grow up and take your console vs. PC bullshit somewhere else. #modernwarfare2
@TAIKREDE: I play on both PC and consoles but most of the people who I know that are console players who also have PC (not a gaming PC) are ignorant towards PC games.
Granted the PC CAN be a superior system for gaming but it's usually a preference for gamers on what platform (PC or console) they feel more comfortable with.
The PC gaming community is frustrated because we're loosing control that defined PC gaming. We (the PC gamers) had to deal with for the longest time a crappy port of a console games that isn't optimized for the PC (not talking about gfx but the controls and resolutions).
But when a PC game that is well received goes to consoles, the console gamers complain that they don't get mods or the extra that was on PC but console gamers should realized that the console isn't a PC and they'll never have the full freedom because they chose to get a simplified gaming system (blame it on MS/Sony/Nintendo because they're the ones who wrote the rules and honestly I think they should allow it).
Don't get me wrong, I've been a huge fan of console games since the NES and I've owned almost all the systems up to now and will still support them in the future but the PC gamer inside of me don't like what IW/Acti-Blizz is doing to us and are essentially taking the PC identity away to become a console on a platform that has no right to limit (or should I say, expectation not to limit). #modernwarfare2
@Neko_Tech: it dosent bother when someone points out what they like about pc gaming like u did its just the people who feel they have to boast "im so smart and cool bc i use a pc for gaming and if you own a console ur or a consoletard and waste ur money on dumbed down games" #modernwarfare2
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"I've said it before and I'll say it again: Democracy just doesn't work." #modernwarfare2
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But for the love of God/Buddha/Ozzy Osbourne, who was the one who though that removing the ability to have dedicated servers was a good move for the community?
In order to have a solid community you need dedicated servers. This is not even a debatable issue, just look at stats. Games like QuakeWorld and Quake 2 and UT99 are still being played today because the community could maintain itself without depending on "X" company. Yes, the community is small for those games, but it still exist and that's the whole point.
I will love to see how much support they will give to this game once Modern Warfare 3 hits the stores.
COD:MW2 is a FPS, and COD:MW2 for PC is a FPS for PC, not an FPS for consoles or an MMORPG, or whatever those funny looking games call themselves, these kind of games need dedicated fans that have the ability to keep the community going.
If it's not broken why fix it?
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oh and for the record, you have a few good points man. A few good ones. But seriously LOL at calling TF2 or L4D good games. Those games are like taking a dump and bagging it, then putting an XBOX 360 sticker on it, and selling that bag for $60. #modernwarfare2
10/19/09
Saying you don't play in with my mindset doesn't change the fact that that your original post is full of idiotic and frankly totally false statements. #modernwarfare2
10/20/09
Opinion. #modernwarfare2
10/20/09
I'm not strictly a PC gamer, as i have a PS3, Wii, DS, PSP and a damn good PC for gaming. I'm actually quite into playing my PS3 at the moment.
And there are some games i do prefer to play on PC. But to say that no one plays PC, PC gaming is dead, and that the only people who are signing the petition are pirates etc etc, is complete and utter bullsh*t. And if you agree with the views of Ikzai, i feel that there is something wrong your arguement as your views seem to be completely one sided, uneducated, and have a strong wreak of fanboyism.
There is nothing wrong with prefering XBOX 360 over other platforms, but if you want to try and make a valid point, then at east have the knowledge/education/experience to back it up. Because what Ikzai wrote, it just plain wrong. #modernwarfare2
10/20/09
Sad to see that some people cant see games for what they are. I can appreciate some games, despite not liking the genre/platform. Something that Ikzai doesn't seem to be able to do. #modernwarfare2
10/18/09
I can still remember
How dead silence used to make me smile.
And I knew if I had my chance
That I could frag those noobies’ ass
And maybe they’d rage quit after a while
But October made me shiver
With every word Four Ought Two delivered
I.W. changed their mindset
The blogosphere was upset
I can’t remember if I cried
Were all these game blogs telling lies?
I wasn’t ready for the ride
The day Mod Warfare died.
So bye-bye, Call of Duty franchise.
When dedicated is so hated
Tourney, gaming will die
Before that day, we thought that things would be fine
Singin’ ,"This’ll be the game that I buy."
"This’ll be the game that I buy"
Did you think PC got too much love?
And users thought they were far above –
Things like a current gen console?
Do you need so much control –
With leveled play fields for the whole?
Why’d you leak important news this slow?
Well I know that you’re in love with Steam
But X-Fire still works it seems
With servers we can’t choose
Man we’ll all be singin’ the blues
The Internet had gone amok
Pre orders falling like Nintendo ducks
We all knew we were out of luck
The day Mod Warfare died
I started singin’
"Bye-bye, Call of Duty franchise."
When dedicated is so hated
Tourney, gaming will die
Before that day, we thought that things would be fine
Singin’ ,"This’ll be the game that I buy."
"This’ll be the game that I buy"
Now for years we’ve been here on our own
And mods get released by the drove
That’s how it’s supposed to be.
When Treyarch popped onto the scene
With a coat they borrowed from L4D
And a big sign that read "Come and see!"
Oh but while the sales were looking down
The ladders threw it to the ground
The leagues court had adjourned;
Cod-2 was to return!
To some this seemed a little harsh
But most thought it’d never leave a mark
But we got the bite and not the bark
The day, Mod Warfare died.
We were singin’
"Bye-bye, Call of Duty franchise."
When dedicated is so hated
Tourney gaming will die
Before that day, we thought that things would be fine
Singin’ ,"This’ll be the game that I buy."
"This’ll be the game that I buy"
Nuclear winter world left in splinters
Bethesda calmed us with a Fallout shelter
DLC was comin’ fast
Snipers and spies hiding in the grass
The players tried to idle round’ for hats
With inventory system on the sidelines in a cast
Everyone waited for C.O.D. news
As halos filled up TF2
Flag Runner made us dance
Oh you were waiting for your chance!
Silence fell across the field
The sickening plan finally revealed
Emoticons couldn’t be concealed
The day Mod Warfare died
We started singin’
"Bye-bye, Call of Duty franchise."
When dedicated is so hated
Tourney gaming will die
Before that day, we thought that things would be fine
Singin’ ,"This’ll be the game that I buy."
"This’ll be the game that I buy"
Bash and Slash gathered in one place
For a platform lost in cyberspace
With millions of worried fans
We all tuned in with a few left clicks
Let the hosts get through their introductory kicks
R. Bowling Tellin’ us about his plans
As the webcast played there on the page
My hands were clenched in fists of rage
No company born in hell
Could make this bullshit sell!
And as the flame wars climbed throughout the night
Increasing attacks with increasing spite
The console fanboys laughed with delight
The day Mod Warfare died.
They were singin’,
"Bye-bye Call of Duty franchise."
When dedicated is so hated
Tourney gaming will die
Before that day, we thought that things would be fine
Singin’ ,"This’ll be the game that I buy."
"This’ll be the game that I buy"
When no one heard from Four o’ two
We looked to Blizzard for some news
But they just smiled and turned away
I went on to some CEVO boards
Where I competed years before
But the mods there said they just couldn’t play
And in the servers, the players screamed
Map makers cried, and modders steamed
No words typed out, or spoken
Could make the game unbroken
The genre I admired the most
Was quickly fading into a ghost
To own the game - but not the host
The day Mod Warfare died.
And we were singing,
"Bye-bye, Call of Duty franchise."
When dedicated is so hated
Tourney, gaming will die
Before that day, we thought that things would be fine
Singin’,"This’ll be the game that I buy."
"This’ll be the game that I buy"
They were singing,
"Bye-bye, Call of Duty franchise."
If dedicated so hated
Tourney gaming will die
Before that day, we thought that things would be fine
Singin’ ,"This’ll be the game that I buy" #modernwarfare2
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@GarbageDonkey: EPIC! #modernwarfare2
10/18/09
Comment of the week right here! #modernwarfare2
10/18/09
Reminds me of my '12 days since update' song that got me my star, hopefully, you're as lucky. #modernwarfare2
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Thank you all bunches! One day a video may be made that shows the true sadness that this tale tries to tell.
@-MasterDex-: Perhaps we should go into the video game related parody song business. There seem to be a lot of tragedies these days. #modernwarfare2
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It's really irritating seeing the amount of ignorance as to why PC gamers are upset. If you're only online experience is through console matchmaking and you didn't even know what a dedicated server was until yesterday, please take 10 minutes to do a quick Google search and educate yourselves. #modernwarfare2
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I had forgotten about that. Hopefully I will again. #modernwarfare2
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@Heliophage: #modernwarfare2
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It's going to be hard to forget that. Hahaha #modernwarfare2
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I'm normally an advocate of the "don't bash something until you've tried it out yourself" view, but in this case IW has made an undeniably bad move. Dedicated servers very strongly influence a PC game's longevity in a way that a matchmaking system cannot. The basic technical advantages of dedicated servers over non-dedicated servers are very obvious and well known to any serious PC gamer (who plays multiplayer, of course):
-Lower Latency
-Run smoother
-More stable
-Up 24/7
These are all important, though some non-dedicated servers -can- be capable of providing comparable experiences - and trust me, most will not be able to nicely handle 32 players running amok. More importantly though, 24/7 dedicated servers allow for choice and a way to find a place to call home. This is achieved by:
-Allowing custom mods, HUGE for increasing the longevity of your game. Do you think games such as CS would have lasted nearly so long if it wasn't for the myriad of mods users created and shared? While the core gameplay was loved by many, mods kept gamers interested when vanilla CS bored them. DM, Superhero, Warcraft, Hooks, Zombie/Night mods, etc., etc., the list goes on and on. Without dedicated servers, none of this would have been possible and I can guarantee you CS would not have lasted as long as it did. The same can be said for nearly ANY successful multiplayer PC game.
-Creating a community. Dedicated servers allow for you to create a place where others can call their gaming home. This goes hand in hand with the above, mods. PC gamers often tend to drift between servers until they hit upon one that is filled with many players they actually like, with settings they actually like, filled with admins who will actually actively patrol and better the community of the server. You CANNOT do that with matchmaking. At most, matchmaking lets you say, hey, I liked playing with this guy... let me friend him, and every so often, you'll play with him, and maybe together with a few others on your friends list if you put together the effort. I guess a decent analogy would be that matchmaking lets you make friends, and you can maybe go crash places with them, with sporadic attendance; dedicated servers give you and your friends a place to customize and call home. I play TF2 heavily - I am part of a clan, filled with people that are awesome to me 24/7, with admins who are always on that actively kick griefers and trolls, with regularly scheduled events to keep the clan competitive and fun.If TF2 was rid of dedicated servers and relied solely on matchmaking, this would not be possible. Hell, the TF2 community probably would not be half of what it is now.
There will be those who say, look at games such as L4D, GoW, and Halo, they use matchmaking systems and they do decently. Which is true. However, the experience is vastly DIFFERENT. L4D, at most, uses 8 players. It is very easy to host on a half decent machine due to this. GoW... well, scratch that one. Halo... everyone has different opinions, though it is solid for the most part. But the one thing that remains true is that you will never have 32-64 players who can for the most part all get along well and have a great time, who all know each other solely from playing with each other. Basically, if you don't understand anything else, know that by having matchmaking only, you are removing a large part of what makes PC multiplayer game so amazing to PC gamers.
That said... COD:MW2 will still have a huge MP base simply from it's name. But unless the game is significantly better, the overall experience will be worse. #modernwarfare2
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It's the only system L4D had, so people had to live with it. It doesn't mean it was a good system...it sucks.
And now I have to suffer this console-esque crap in what was my most anticipated online game since the last CoD...
I liked going to the same servers where I got to know players who frequent them. And don't say 'add them as friends' because it's not like that at all...adding as a friend is too personal, and is not the same as enjoying the odd game with the same people who tend to play on certain servers. #modernwarfare2
10/18/09
Well, if you want to piss IW and Activision off, wait a few days and scout the 2nd hand market. #modernwarfare2
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I suggest you get an English translator to double check your grammar next time.
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Yesterday, I hadn't really thought about console games getting dedicated server support until RockyRan mentioned that. Then I remembered that Warhawk, Killzone 2 and (to a certain degree) Demon's Souls had dedicated servers.
I think the real way to challenge Activision/InfinityWard is to convince console players to support PC gamers. Because at this rate, even if the entire PC market were to balk at MW2, the console market would buffer the losses from the PC market.
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@DrunkAus: I tried setting up a private server and it was pain in the ass to set up and forwarding everyone because of the console commands. But I do give credit to Valve since they allow us the option to do so but I wish that it was simpler process. #modernwarfare2
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Assumptions are fun! Plus PC *greater than* Console forever.
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Plus, I would take Mother on the Famicom over specs and features any day. :/ #modernwarfare2
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If I wanna play FPS, MMO's or RTS then yea PC is king, if I wanna play oh EVERY OTHER GENRE UNDER THE SUN then consoles are the way to go. #modernwarfare2
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We have a winner! Thank you voice of logic! #modernwarfare2
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Honestly, I'm trying to put this the nicest way possible, but if you are strictly a console gamer then this whole subject doesn't involve you, nor require your input. #modernwarfare2
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"i love how some pc gamers think they are so much better than console users"
has jack shit to do with the issue at hand, and really makes you sound like an ignorant twat. How is that at all relevant to you being informed on the issue at hand? Seriously, grow up and take your console vs. PC bullshit somewhere else. #modernwarfare2
10/18/09
Granted the PC CAN be a superior system for gaming but it's usually a preference for gamers on what platform (PC or console) they feel more comfortable with.
The PC gaming community is frustrated because we're loosing control that defined PC gaming. We (the PC gamers) had to deal with for the longest time a crappy port of a console games that isn't optimized for the PC (not talking about gfx but the controls and resolutions).
But when a PC game that is well received goes to consoles, the console gamers complain that they don't get mods or the extra that was on PC but console gamers should realized that the console isn't a PC and they'll never have the full freedom because they chose to get a simplified gaming system (blame it on MS/Sony/Nintendo because they're the ones who wrote the rules and honestly I think they should allow it).
Don't get me wrong, I've been a huge fan of console games since the NES and I've owned almost all the systems up to now and will still support them in the future but the PC gamer inside of me don't like what IW/Acti-Blizz is doing to us and are essentially taking the PC identity away to become a console on a platform that has no right to limit (or should I say, expectation not to limit). #modernwarfare2
10/18/09
10/18/09
10/18/09