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mintycrys is HOT for Bayonetta
10:00 PM

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Dear Activision,

Recall your game. Have Infinity Ward develop one that plays like this. Release it. That is all.

Love, me
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FCurimao
09:37 PM

In reply to Modern Warfare 2 Gets Dedicated PC Servers (Well, Sort Of)
How is this a dedicated server? It's still run under IWNet.

I quote from the video, "The best bit is, this is all ranked and on IWNet!" #modernwarfare2
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Sir-Lucius does anything for Dethklok
09:39 PM

@FCurimao: The dedi's can still connect to IW.net. That's the best/worst part. #modernwarfare2
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NDN_Shadow
09:41 PM

@FCurimao: He's talking about the fact that's it's ranked. That is, he's leveling up and gaining experience.

The fact that they turned gravity low and made grenades have infinite ammo proves the server scenario. #modernwarfare2
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codagent
09:45 PM

@FCurimao: These are all commands you can turn on and off as a host from a dedicated server. You could do all these in MW as well as vCoD and CoD 2 example would be like cg_player speed 333 in the console. This is really cool they even have the lagometer. If they can some how enable lean (I have a theory its in the code ) I will get this game. #modernwarfare2
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bboyser8
09:56 PM

@codagent: Apparently there's a simple config to enable lean. Meaning they turned it off just for the sake of turning it off. #modernwarfare2
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RockyRan
09:29 PM

In reply to Modern Warfare 2 Gets Dedicated PC Servers (Well, Sort Of)
Before any more people ignorantly proclaim that dedicated servers will house nothing but these kinds of matches, allow me to remind you that this was the most obvious and easiest way of showcasing the fact that the game is running on a dedicated server.

For those of you who aren't familiar with the process (and if you aren't, I'll kindly ask you to refrain from posting "omg dedicated servers = HAX" posts), dedicated servers with modded and altered gameplay 1) are almost always clearly labeled and 2) constitute a very small percentage of the total number of dedicated servers running.

So again, these guys are just showing they're running off a dedicated server. This does NOT mean all servers will be hosting this kind of god-mode messed-up game doodles. In fact, someone's bound to make a "Pro" mod just like they did with CoD4 and make tournament-level rules and tweaks to completely balance the game. #modernwarfare2
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Doogla
09:31 PM

@RockyRan: But if the modded servers can rank people up, then they shouldn't be allowed. #modernwarfare2
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HioMrSan
09:32 PM

@RockyRan: Your logic has no place here. We're obviously being flame baited with a video of a crazy hacked match that is implying that it is equal to all dedicated servers. #modernwarfare2
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omgwtflolbbl
09:34 PM

@RockyRan: I can't believe the number of people who equate modders with cheaters. Not here necessarily, but... #modernwarfare2
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HioMrSan
09:35 PM

@Doogla: You really think anyone on there is connected to steam and risking being VAC banned? You even think they paid for the game? #modernwarfare2
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RockyRan
09:36 PM

@Doogla: That's true. If anything, this will give IW an excuse to crack down on this hack, which is definitely a bad thing. I hope the more scrupulous users of this hack will disable ranking or at least restore it to its intended levels.

@HioMrSan: I don't know about "flame bait", but it certainly sends a wrong message about dedicated servers. #modernwarfare2
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Sir-Lucius does anything for Dethklok
09:38 PM

@HioMrSan: Actually there are reports that you can play over IW.net and rank up on these crazy servers.

That'll probably get fixed soon, but right now you can just create a fake steam account and play on that. As far as I know this only works on cracked versions of the game now. #modernwarfare2
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deanbmmv
09:39 PM

@omgwtflolbbl: It's because
Console land: Mod = change console to play pirated game or cheats
PC land: Mod = Make new levels, games and gametypes

Yeah, mods can be used to cheat, but in most times, it can be server wide to make for, well some interesting new gameplay modes. #modernwarfare2
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HioMrSan
09:46 PM

@Sir-Lucius does anything for Dethklok: Meh, I was mainly asking who would actually connect with their legit account. #modernwarfare2
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Sir-Lucius does anything for Dethklok
09:52 PM

@HioMrSan: Oh yeah most people I know who have tried this have made a fake account. I was just saying it is possible to play over IW.net. #modernwarfare2
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deanbmmv
09:28 PM

In reply to Modern Warfare 2 Gets Dedicated PC Servers (Well, Sort Of)

MW2 really is a mess on PC.
It's became rather clear its a port of the 360 version, and on top of that they also sabotaged the IWengine. Who the fuck does that. Who goes in and turns features off. They have the code for Lean in the exe. they have the code for Dedicated servers in the exe, they have the code for xbox live in the exe, and they have the console commands in the exe too(and in the manual too, WTF, sloppy job IW)
[www.casualkilling.com]
Theres the tweak to the ping bar (bars, really, in a PC game?) to show your ping, and its clearly showing host advantage and 100ms to 200ms ping.
[i34.tinypic.com]
Oh yeah, you know how they said IWnet would be hack proof?[www.callofdutyhacks.com]
And the great thing, there's no Admins on IWnet to kick cheats n hackers. Hooray!!

Even Crecente has been hit by some of the bugs
"Hmm, MW2 on PC has garbled text for me when I try to play. Is anyone else seeing that on Windows 7?"
[twitter.com]
[img404.imageshack.us]

Really, Infinity Ward have really let themselves down with the release of MW2 on PC. It has been one huge cock up of a PR disaster. And I don't think anyone can sanely blame PC gamers for their rage at Infinity Ward.
Really if they want to stop developing for PC then fine, its clear they stopped developing for PC with COD4 anyway.

Edit: for those who wish to try out the stuff in above video:
[www.modernwarfail2.com]
(p.s not tried it myself)
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TrjnRabbit
09:25 PM

In reply to Modern Warfare 2 Gets Dedicated PC Servers (Well, Sort Of)
Before the game was launched I was arguing that we should wait until we see what the matchmaking service is like on PC before denouncing.

Now that we've seen how bad it is, I really hope IW allows for dedicated servers.

It was a failed experiment, they should try to fix it as soon as possible.

Luckily, this video shows it's possible, so the only thing left is if IW will listen to common sense. #modernwarfare2
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Sir-Lucius does anything for Dethklok
09:23 PM

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Honestly, the game presented in that video looks about a million billion times better than vanilla CoD.

Tribes, anyone?

Additionally, more fun info on the hacked version of MW2. The code for the dev console is still in the game, in addition to code for the 360 version (hence why there were images of IW.net giving XBL errors popping up). Apparently it's pretty clear that IW just went through and clicked "off" for many features (such as lean) that were present in CoD4.

All this within what, a week of the games release?

EDIT: And the best part? You can do this shit on ranked servers, and apparently there are hanks to rank up to level 70 instantly. A patched was released today that lets you play with a cracked version of the game on IW.net. From what we've seen so far, IW.net is a joke.

EDIT 2: Also, this is why I love PC gaming.
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omgwtflolbbl
09:25 PM

@Sir-Lucius does anything for Dethklok: Tribes was the first thing I thought while watching that video. I'd take CoD4 with jetpacks and slightly slowed grenade launchers. Not quite the same, but ehhh. #modernwarfare2
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Sir-Lucius does anything for Dethklok
09:28 PM

@omgwtflolbbl: Haha yeah, probably one of the closest things we'll get to a modern day Tribes. #modernwarfare2
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Strangelove
09:20 PM

In reply to Modern Warfare 2 Gets Dedicated PC Servers (Well, Sort Of)
To be frank, as an avid PC gamer for the last 25+ years, that video kind of explains why I'm no longer really chagrined about the loss of dedicated servers in MW2. I'd rather play the game is intended, with some sort of rules and a somewhat level playing field than join game after game of people cheating, flying miles through the air, on fucked up maps, and generally having fun at everyone else's expense. No, not every dedicated server is like this video. But if you're playing a game with rankings and unlocks, I personally prefer a sort of invisible referee. I know there are always ways around everything on PC, but I'm actually thoroughly enjoying the MW2 experience without the dedicated servers. #modernwarfare2
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InsidiousTuna
09:23 PM

@Strangelove: Hear, hear. #modernwarfare2
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RockyRan
09:25 PM

@Strangelove: You should know better than equate dedicated servers with "eople cheating, flying miles through the air, on fucked up maps, and generally having fun at everyone else's expense" if you really have been a PC gamer for the last 25+ years.

This is merely the most obvious way of showcasing the fact that the game is running on dedicated servers. It does NOT mean dedicated servers automatically equals this sort of experience. #modernwarfare2
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mightyg
09:32 PM

@Strangelove: As much as i agree with you in that there should be a place where you can go and play and the rules are enforced so you can enjoy some semblance of fairness, I don't see why we can't have both. And obviously that's sort of what we're getting here in that it's been hacked. Hopefully this trend won't marginalize the people who want the freedom to experiment and mod, or divide the pc gaming population into two. #modernwarfare2
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Strangelove
09:37 PM

@RockyRan: "No, not every dedicated server is like this video."

I play the majority of my games on PC, and in recent years things like cheating and generally ruining the game for everyone else has become an epidemic. It's gotten to the point that I pretty much stopped playing online deathmatch. Yes, you can still find straight games, but in my personaly experience over the past decade, they've become rarer and rarer. #modernwarfare2
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Nulls
09:40 PM

@Strangelove: This video is more of a proof of concept and sticking it to IW than an actual serious mod meant to be played.

None of the other major FPS on PC have a problem. TF2 has some major mods to it, yet there are tons of populated servers that play just the standard maps.

As for cheaters, have you seen the videos on youtube with people cheating in matchmaking games and nothing can be done about it.

I would rather play on a server that has competent admins that ban the cheaters.

Way better than an inconsistent matchmaking multiplayer experience. #modernwarfare2
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ArmoredCavalry
09:49 PM

@Strangelove: I don't think I ever had a game 'ruined' by cheaters/exploits in COD4... and I logged about 400 or so hours in it....

That is the great thing about dedicated servers... there are these things called admins....

You could easily find a server you liked, and keep playing there and returning for a good time.... Unlike now where you get thrown in with who knows what kind of players..... with no option to remove anyone.... #modernwarfare2
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Strangelove
09:54 PM

@ArmoredCavalry: Or instead of looking for a server I like (that happens to be populated and not full and has a good ping) I can just click "Join Game" in MW2. I work for a living, and I don't want to dick around and spend time fishing for a good server that might be full when I want to play. I just want to play the game. #modernwarfare2
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RockyRan
09:55 PM

@Strangelove: What games are you playing? None of what I'm playing is affected by this "epidemic". #modernwarfare2
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Strangelove
09:55 PM

@ArmoredCavalry: I don't have the time or the inclination to hunt around for good servers anymore, looking for a good ping, a server that isn't full, that isn't using mods, that isn't on some crap home-made level, that has people on my relative playing level, etc. I just want to play the game. #modernwarfare2
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Strangelove
10:02 PM

@RockyRan: I've played games of Halo with flying warthogs and people who instantly get headshots from across the map. I've played games of Half Life 2 and Team Fortress 2 on the crappiest home-made levels I've ever seen. I've seen server after server of empty Far Cry 2 games. I've been in server after server of GTAIV games with people who take no damage and kill you instantly over and over again. Counterstrike games with aimbots and people who headshot you instantly.

I built my last rig from scratch, I'll die a rabid PC gamer, but I just have to patience to mine the gold at the bottom of a cess-pool. No, not every dedicated server is full of cheaters. But the challenge of finding a good one is not a battle I'm willing to waste time on anymore.

I'm not arguing for the end of dedicated servers. But in a game with levelling, rankings, and unlocks, I like knowing it's a somewhat level playing field and just worrying about playing the game instead of finding a good server to play on. #modernwarfare2
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Eltigro
09:15 PM

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The Master System version was technically superior... #left4dead
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Mister Jack started the Save The Lombax Foundation
09:15 PM

In reply to Modern Warfare 2 Gets Dedicated PC Servers (Well, Sort Of)
I really wish that IW at least let you adjust game parameters. I don't enjoy them ALL the time, but sometimes in a shooter I get in the mood for the absolute craziness of an RPG only match or "everyone gets flamethrowers" or just something like that. I don't always feel like competing seriously. #modernwarfare2
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Arelan
09:20 PM

@Mister Jack started the Save The Lombax Foundation: Which is why I used to love Unreal Tournament. The Mutators, and custom maps, low gravity, instagib, all that stuff gave so much variety. I didn't like UT3 though...I played the hell out of UT1 and UT2003. #modernwarfare2
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DukeOfPwn
09:20 PM

@Mister Jack started the Save The Lombax Foundation: That was what made TimeSplitters 2 so fun for me and my buddies. We would find crazy weapon configurations, throw a bunch of settings to a wall and see what worked. Amazingly fun. #modernwarfare2
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singing pigs in elevators
09:23 PM

@DukeOfPwn: TIMESPLITTERS 2 PROX MINES ONLY GAME FTW #modernwarfare2
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normandygahn
09:26 PM

@DukeOfPwn: Yeah that game had a crazy amount of replay value. Custom maps, tons of modes, varied weapons, a horde of characters including zombies = awesome. Oh yeah and bricks.

Where's the next-gen Timesplitters anyway? #modernwarfare2
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Grandleon
09:55 PM

@Mister Jack started the Save The Lombax Foundation: The slow death of modding is disappointing. Used to be games such as Quake and Half-Life relied on the mod community to give the games long-term viability. Now it's all about tightly-controlled environments and DLC.

I really miss some of the extremely wacky mods such as Superheroes for Quake 2, or Rocket Crowbar for Half-Life. Full of unconventional ways to kill each other, with limited god modes of sort, they took a special sort of creativity. #modernwarfare2
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N●Gage Croal
08:46 PM

In reply to 8-Bit Left 4 Dead De-Make Arrives in January
I can't wait to play Left 2 Die. #left4dead
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muscletower
09:22 PM

@N●Gage Croal: I'm more excited for 3 Left 3 Dead: Tokyo Drift
GOD DANGIT WHERES THAT FROM I REMEMBER SEEING THAT AND LAUGHING SO HARD #left4dead
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N●Gage Croal
09:28 PM

@muscletower:
2 Fast 2 Furious?

Also.. Up 4 More? #left4dead
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nipsen
08:22 PM

In reply to Europe Didn't Like America's Mass Effect 2 Box Art Either
Flash... uh huh, king of the immpossible

Heees for everyone of us
Stand for everyone of usss
He saved with a mighty hand..
dum...dum.
..he's a mighty flash!

FLASH! #masseffect2
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Obama takes time to read kotaku's comments...
07:27 PM

In reply to Europe Didn't Like America's Mass Effect 2 Box Art Either
they seem way to retro... like a game from nintendo blow in cartridge days... #masseffect2
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Ursus-Veritas
07:19 PM

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Come on, it's not *that* bad! A marked improvement over the chilling 'Shepard Stare' on the NA box, I think. People are reacting to this like it's some sort of boxart based coming of the apocalypse.

Don't judge a book by it's cover. Especially if it's actually a game, because then you'll just get confused.
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Knoxximus ver. 5.66
06:50 PM

In reply to Mr. T Returns To World Of Warcraft - With Grenades
EPIC #worldofwarcraft
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Bouchart
06:44 PM

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Scrap the whole cover and just put a banjo playing hillbilly on it. Worked for Phalanx. #masseffect2
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