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    Image of fuchikoma fuchikoma
    10/02/09

    In reply to Offending PlayStation 3 Ads Aren't PlayStation 3 Ads
    Figured... when you see something outrageous on the internet like this, always ask where the ads actually ran.
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    Image of kseezy kseezy
    10/02/09

    In reply to Offending PlayStation 3 Ads Aren't PlayStation 3 Ads
    As a copywriter in the ad industry, this isn't a surprise. Agencies love publicizing themselves and the best way to do it is to win awards for their work.

    The rules for award shows state that ads have to have been published, but they rarely do the legwork to verify if it was true or not.

    Most companies don't care if their name is used. However, If it's a controversial ad, like this one or the WWF one by DDB Brazil, the fictional clients always get into a shitstorm thanks to myopic creative directors. Pisses me off.

    But believe me, in most cases, it's the agency's fault. We are an unscrupulous bunch sometimes.
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    Trystero promoted this comment kseezy was starred kseezy was unstarred
    Image of LanciePants LanciePants
    10/02/09

    @kseezy:

    Wow, someone in the business commenting, rock on.

    I'd imagine the ad agency responsible for the PR damage turns into a pariah of sorts. It's one thing to inflict brand damage on a paying customer. It's entirely another issue when they were never under contract for the company they harmed. At least that’s the way I see it.

    Care to provide insight/comment on the string of distasteful ads coming from South America?
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    Image of Sarcasmancer Sarcasmancer
    10/02/09

    @kseezy: The real question is why an ad agency would think nazi themed ads are a good way to build up their reputation. Nothing sells like controversy, but this is a bit much.
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    Image of amg0D amg0D
    10/01/09

    In reply to Offending PlayStation 3 Ads Aren't PlayStation 3 Ads
    So when does Sony give us all free shit instead of just saying sorry.. How many times can you say sorry before we don't give a fuck anymore? I know after so many times my mom didn't trust my ass anymore....
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    Showmeyomoves! promoted this comment amg0D was starred amg0D was unstarred
    Image of Showmeyomoves! Showmeyomoves!
    10/02/09

    @amg0D: I think everyone who was unfortunate enough to read your comment deserves a free console of their choosing.
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    10/01/09

    In reply to Offending PlayStation 3 Ads Aren't PlayStation 3 Ads
    "These are not the ads you're looking for."
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    RockyRan approved this comment linklonk07 was starred linklonk07 was unstarred
    Image of RockyRan RockyRan
    10/01/09

    @linklonk07: These are not the ads we are looking for.
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    Image of Sonira - Katamari on the Wings! Sonira - Katamari on the Wings!
    10/01/09

    @RockyRan: Move along.
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    Image of Zombeezee Zombeezee
    10/01/09

    In reply to Offending PlayStation 3 Ads Aren't PlayStation 3 Ads
    so can I be unbanned yet? I sorry
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    Image of Zombeezee Zombeezee
    10/01/09

    @Zombeezee: woo hooooooooo
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    ShadowOdin of dubious snowiness promoted this comment Zombeezee was starred Zombeezee was unstarred
    Image of ShadowOdin of dubious snowiness ShadowOdin of dubious snowiness
    10/01/09

    @Zombeezee: I didn't know you could DO that
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    Image of Showmeyomoves! Showmeyomoves!
    10/02/09

    @ShadowOdin of dubious snowiness: Note to self: If I ever get banned, just ask them to unban me.
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    Image of grantanamo grantanamo
    10/01/09

    In reply to Offending PlayStation 3 Ads Aren't PlayStation 3 Ads
    This isn't related to Kotaku but current journalism in general. What ever happened to fact checking? The fact that the president of this company admitted that Sony didn't approve these ads meant that a small bit of research could have figured this out. Instead, every blog (including legit news outlets) see the ad and run it as breaking news. I'm getting really tired of the idea of reporting rumors and THEN doing the fact checking. Are we that desperate to break news first? Does it even matter? I saw this article on 5 different sites (including engadget, which is only transiently related to PS coverage). I don't even know who broke the news first. I feel like it would have been so much more impacting if a site had confirmed that everyone else jumped the gun and was wrong instead of following suit and having to print a retraction.
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    Duin promoted this comment grantanamo was starred grantanamo was unstarred
    Image of Trygle12... NOW IN HD! Trygle12... NOW IN HD!
    10/01/09

    @grantanamo: "ZOMG + Views" is greater than "Credibility + No views"

    Several news agencies are guilty of it.
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    Antiterra promoted this comment Edited by Trygle12... NOW IN HD! at 10/01/09 6:04 PM Trygle12... NOW IN HD! was starred Trygle12... NOW IN HD! was unstarred
    Image of grantanamo grantanamo
    10/01/09

    @Trygle12 is back! Still has trouble reading his posts. : (: I completely agree, that's why I'm not calling out Kotaku but journalism in general. It just amazes me that this happens time and time again.
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    Image of Antiterra Antiterra
    10/01/09

    @grantanamo: The most annoying thing, besides what you pointed out, is that many fine Internet folk who ZOMGed at the original stories won't read the follow-ups and will remain convinced that these are real Sony ads.

    Wanna bet that trolls will still be mentioning "the nazi PS3 ad" months from now?
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    Image of Fernando Jorge Fernando Jorge
    10/01/09

    @grantanamo: I don't mean to sound technophobic or anti-blog, in fact, I speak as a journalism student who desires to work with online journalism:

    Being the first one to report a fact has always been a big deal in journalism, so there's the tendency of trying to report to the public asap.

    The problem is that in online journalism people are in an extra hurry because there's no deadline. With radio, tv and newspapers, there's a deadline, that is, the journalist has to complete his piece before, say, 5'clock, which is when they have to send it to the press or when the time slot is available. Online journalism lacks that, it has less time constraints. But instead of this condition providing with more time to complete reports, which would be good, it does the opposite.

    Given the natural desire to be the first one to report something, in online journalism they can report it as soon as they get story. So one website might try to make a fact check before publishing, but then during this time another website might as well publish it, and then you aren't the first anymore. What happens is that things are published with a hurry because someone can always report before you. Then thanks to hyperlinks, you publish things in smaller parts, and link the newest piece to the oldest piece. So you can report a rumor first, and then you report the actual truth, you use hyperlinks to connect the two pieces in one larger story.

    Plus, the internet in general has amplified another bad trend of journalism: re-reporting something that was reported by another outlet. News organizations might trust each other too much and think that if someone reported something, then it must be true. So let's say Kotaku publishes something, it is a prestigious outlet. People will take that and publish themselves, sometimes not even crediting Kotaku, since it is so much easier to re-report something on the internet then it is on any other media. For an instance, with TV they need images to show something, so they can't re-report without going there to capture images, with newspapers they have to wait the deadline before publishing something, so they might as well check it before printing. On the Internet, you can publish as soon as you see it.
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    hodayathink is running for president of Naughty America promoted this comment Edited by Fernando Jorge at 10/01/09 6:36 PM Fernando Jorge was starred Fernando Jorge was unstarred
    Image of Kenny: Mmmmm, I love colons! Kenny: Mmmmm, I love colons!
    10/01/09

    In reply to Offending PlayStation 3 Ads Aren't PlayStation 3 Ads
    Erwin Rommel wasn't a Nazi officer, he was a Wehrmacht officer.

    Get it right.
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    Kenny: Mmmmm, I love colons! was starred Kenny: Mmmmm, I love colons! was unstarred
    Image of mfwahwah mfwahwah
    10/01/09

    @Kenny: Mmmmm, I love colons!: I couldn't care less.
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    Image of (Starman) Starman (Starman) Starman
    10/01/09

    @mfwahwah: So you can only care more? Excellent. \`_'/
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    Image of mfwahwah mfwahwah
    10/01/09

    @(Starman) AnalysisDialysis: Yes but what I meant is that my level of caring is at the lowest possible point. It doesn't go up from there, personally.
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    Image of VideoGameFan VideoGameFan
    10/01/09

    @mfwahwah: So you couldn't care ANY less. fixed
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    Image of Aradiel Aradiel
    10/02/09

    @VideoGameFan: Not really, the phrase is "I couldn't care less"

    At least he didn't say "I could care less" as most people seem to do.
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    dd528 promoted this comment Aradiel was starred Aradiel was unstarred
    Image of dd528 dd528
    10/02/09

    @Aradiel: [alt-usage-english.org]
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    Image of Gambit09 Gambit09
    10/01/09

    In reply to Offending PlayStation 3 Ads Aren't PlayStation 3 Ads
    "Sony, forgive us our sins for we also forgive everyone who sins against us. And lead us not into temptation, but unto the PSN."
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    Michael Dukakis promoted this comment Gambit09 was starred Gambit09 was unstarred
    Image of FP_slomo788 FP_slomo788
    10/01/09

    In reply to Offending PlayStation 3 Ads Aren't PlayStation 3 Ads
    Phew.

    Edit: lol and Gizmodo has a contest based on this thing to make fun of Sony's marketing.
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    Edited by FP_slomo788 at 10/01/09 5:50 PM FP_slomo788 was starred FP_slomo788 was unstarred
    Image of ph15h ph15h
    10/01/09

    @FP_slomo788: just when i started to doubt sony's artistic and advertising credibility... phew

    wow shift key is broken. sorry
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    Image of Antiterra Antiterra
    10/01/09

    In reply to Offending PlayStation 3 Ads Aren't PlayStation 3 Ads
    I thought we already knew that thanks to the old "PlayStation 3" logo in the corner (and come one, a swastika ?!).

    I guess now we have the official statement, too.
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    Image of Rachel Fogg Rachel Fogg
    10/01/09

    In reply to Offending PlayStation 3 Ads Aren't PlayStation 3 Ads
    ........Well, that was rather embarrassing.
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    Image of BubbleF**kingBuddy BubbleF**kingBuddy
    10/01/09

    In reply to Offending PlayStation 3 Ads Aren't PlayStation 3 Ads
    How did this get by so many journalists?
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    Image of FP_slomo788 FP_slomo788
    10/01/09

    @BubbleF**kingBuddy: Because honestly, Sony has done enough shit in the past to make this believable. And not just once, but several times.
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    Image of Rachel Fogg Rachel Fogg
    10/01/09

    @FP_slomo788:

    This, those creepy baby ads? The 'stereotype' squirrels and dustbunnys?

    This 'ad' just seemed par for the course for Sony's marketing agency.
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    Image of kyle4 kyle4
    10/01/09

    @BubbleF**kingBuddy: Because there's a difference between journalists and bloggers?
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    Showmeyomoves! promoted this comment kyle4 was starred kyle4 was unstarred
    Image of GLaDOS GLaDOS
    10/01/09

    @Rachel Fogg: That may have been the case for 2006 and early 2007 Sony (or current SCEE).
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    Rachel Fogg promoted this comment GLaDOS was starred GLaDOS was unstarred
    Image of Ehardergardens Ehardergardens
    10/01/09

    @FP_slomo788: the only one I had any problems with was the all "i want for xmas is a psp ".. that was a hired marketing company and they sucked.. seriously they had no understanding of their market, and embarrassed themselves and sony with that crap. Actually on second thought it will probably live on in satire (or deserves to)
    The illegal grafitti psp campaign wasn't the best of ideas either.
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    FP_slomo788 promoted this comment Ehardergardens was starred Ehardergardens was unstarred
    Image of FP_slomo788 FP_slomo788
    10/01/09

    @Rachel Fogg: @Ehardergardens: The penis-thumb and the "10 years of passion" were pretty tasteless as well. Joystiq had a great article on that.

    [playstation.joystiq.com]
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    Image of Rachel Fogg Rachel Fogg
    10/01/09

    @GLaDOS:

    Still, that was enough to leave a bad taste in the mouth of many gamers...

    They might have changed it up with the Take me out commercials and the 'Cthulhu' ads.

    But the trend of bizarre/contraversal ads especially with this one just really seemed likely.
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    Image of GunFlame GunFlame
    07/08/09

    In reply to Did EA Just Announce Command & Conquer 4?
    I wish they would make it a little less chessy. Its just a little embarassing. Yeah, since the original theres always been that aspect of cheese but at least when you were on the map, it was down to business.


    Maybe its just me...

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    Image of exion exion
    07/08/09

    @GunFlame: it is just you! the cheese is a staple of the C&C franchise!
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    Image of FP_slomo788 FP_slomo788
    07/08/09

    In reply to Did EA Just Announce Command & Conquer 4?
    C&C3 is on my list of games to buy this year. The demo was really fun.
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    Image of exion exion
    07/08/09

    @FP_slomo788: I picked it up for the PS3 not too long ago and I'm shocked at how well it plays with a controller.


    Fantastic game, and the videos between battles are awesome!

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    Image of Vavaylah Vavaylah
    07/08/09

    In reply to Did EA Just Announce Command & Conquer 4?
    "Good Shot."


    Kudos to anyone who knows what Tim Curry movie that quote is from.

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    Image of Tom Clancy's Samuraidino Tom Clancy's Samuraidino
    07/08/09

    @Vavaylah: Can you give us a clue?
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