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ThisCharmingMan
10/27/09

In reply to Braid Dev Seeks "Full Body Motion Tracking" Programmer
I'm actually more interested to see what the indie devs decide to do with Natal than the large teams. Little hints and clues like this, make me giddy :) #numbernone
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Orionsaint
10/26/09

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They should seek a way to fix that Braid glitch. I paid full price for the game and yet it keeps telling me I have the trial version. Ever since I changed my HDD. I tried everything to fix it. You name it and nothing works. I got jipped off! #numbernone
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Sean Roslon
10/26/09

@Orionsaint: You have to be connected to XBL for it to register as the full game. If you change which console you originally downloaded it on (the console itself, not the HDD), it won't register (this is M$'s piracy prevention), unless you are connected to live, verifying your ownership. I have this problem with one of the Halo 3 Map Packs, as I DL'd it at my mate's house, but using my hard drive. Basically, it'll only work offline on the console you originally purchased it from. #numbernone
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PenitentPenguin
10/26/09

@Orionsaint: Have you tried re-downloading the game to the new Hard drive and doing a license transfer on xbox.com?
That should fix it.

[www.xbox.com] #numbernone
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Orionsaint
10/26/09

@Sean Roslon: Everything was verified my MS. I've tried everything possible. This is the only game I own that has this problem. #numbernone
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Orionsaint
10/26/09

@PenitentPenguin: Yep #numbernone
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RabidZombie
10/27/09

@Orionsaint: [braid-game.com]

Google it before complaining and you look less like an idiot. #numbernone
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Orionsaint
10/27/09

@RabidZombie: I did google it. How the hell do you think I found out how to supposedly fix it. Everyone googles these days. You act like you discovered google. Google it durr. I just gave some unique advice durr. Now who's the idiot? #numbernone
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RabidZombie
10/27/09

@Orionsaint: SHIT! I've been called an idiot on the internet. D:

But seriously, whoops. I misread your original comment. My bad. I guess I am an idiot. :( #numbernone
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Orionsaint
10/27/09

@RabidZombie: Aw don't be so hard on yourself. These things happen all the time. The important thing is, that you admitted your mistake and we can move on from this tiny squabble. #numbernone
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spiderweb1986
10/26/09

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So...when do we know how much Natal costs, and find out how well it works in "real" environments instead of well-lit, almost completely white rooms?

This has potential to be cool, but it's still going to take more than another Braid-esque game and Fable 3 to convince me that Natal is more than a potentially gimmicky add-on meant to steal some thunder from the Wii. There have been plenty of accessories that have died early from lack of developer support, excessive pricing, or other factors, and Natal could very well be another one. #numbernone
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NightMystic
10/26/09

@spiderweb1986: they also used it on Jimmy Fallon a few days after they announced it at E3 #numbernone
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Antiprodukt
10/26/09

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As an amputee I can't help but hope that "full body" tracking won't be required to play any game. #numbernone
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spiderweb1986
10/26/09

@Antiprodukt: Good point. Natal isn't exactly accessible for anyone who's physically disabled. #numbernone
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Kobun
10/26/09

@spiderweb1986: Same could be said for most video games. Natch. #numbernone
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spiderweb1986
10/26/09

@Kobun: I don't think being in a wheelchair or having one leg would prevent you from playing any other games (with Dance Dance Revolution as one exception)...but both would be a problem here.
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Antiprodukt
10/26/09

@Kobun: There is difference a between playing well and not playing at all. A natal game that requires "full body tracking" will not be accessible for myself. It's easy to handle a small controller with one hand, esp. if it lays flat on the floor. You adapt to playing video games just the same way as you adapt to zipping up jackets, driving, and changing bad light bulbs. Some things can't be adapted to, hence the difference between playing well and not playing at all.

There's nothing wrong with the Natal because of this, mind you. It just won't be being purchased by me for the same reason I didn't buy guitar hero or a wii. #numbernone
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Kobun
10/26/09

@spiderweb1986: Still, any disability will impact what video games are accessible with some allowing for a greater variety of options than others. People have run races on prosthetic legs, so I don't see how Natal would prohibit such play unless the unit itself struggles to identify "missing" elements the camera is trying to read. #numbernone
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DRM.HollyWood
10/26/09

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I remember after a long session of playing Braid I was walking out of work (yes work) and as I passed a co-worker I had the sudden urge to go back thinking that this would reverse time, it was a very surreal and interesting feeling. With Natal my light grip on reality can be further lost, thank you Microsoft and Number None. #numbernone
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NeVeRMoRe666
10/27/09

@DRM.HollyWood: The EXACT same thing happened to me too! After a lengthy couple of days with Braid, I remember waking up in the morning for class and thinking that I could sleep in because I could rewind time and go out later.

Boy was I wrong. #numbernone
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ClaudioIphigenia
10/26/09

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I still see Natal being a bigger gimmick than the Wii-Mote or the Sony Motion Controller. I highly doubt will be able to reliably do half the things they say it can. If I'm wrong, great, it will be awesome. I just can't shake my skepticism. #numbernone
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xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx
10/26/09

@ClaudioIphigenia: Does different have to be gimmicky? It's only really a gimmick if it's a poorly tacked on feature that doesn't help improve the games or anything so till we see some games it's probably best to not make to many pre-judgements. #numbernone
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sarcastic.angel
10/26/09

@xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx:
And for a game in the vein of Braid, which is more based around thought than agility, it might very well add to the experience. After all, Braid, though a great puzzle game, was just as much prized as an experience. #numbernone
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ExistentialEgg
10/26/09

@ClaudioIphigenia: "Shake Your Skepticism" will be a natal mini game. #numbernone
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DRM.HollyWood
10/26/09

@xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx: I recall that in the days of PS3 hype they were saying that you could have two outputs, meaning you could have two displays. I dreamed of all the things you could do with that, like an FPS where your HUD is on one TV and nothing but you and the gun on the other. Gimmicky? Not at all, but they failed to really do anything with it. That's my fear with Natal, they could do amazing things or make it a gimmick, we will find out. #numbernone
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xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx
10/26/09

@DRM.HollyWood: Well there's nothing to fear for you if you only invest when you believe it's worth it. Natal could be crap but so could any of the motion control systems. I'm more worried about Sony's at the moment since MS has shown they have support, Nintendo already does and I haven't seen the support Sony is getting other than RE5 motion controls. #numbernone
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ClaudioIphigenia
10/27/09

@xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx: I never said it being different was what made it a gimmick. I just feel that the lack of any kind of controller will make it imprecise. Like I said, if Natal can pick up the kinds of motions that they say it can, awesome. I just can't imagine that the technology is there that it can pick up on every movement in my body, then relate that to something in game. #numbernone
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xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx
10/27/09

@ClaudioIphigenia: I can sort of agree with that stance but I also see it as (so long as they implement it well) that this may be the least gimmicky. Whereas Sony and Nintendo would have added a little waggle and motion control this adds full body control so this is taking the idea even further and making it more profound and less tacked on (which I believe more of Sony's offering than Nintendo's since where they are of the same idea Sony has shown some lack of care toward motion control with the failure of the sixaxis). I agree with you though as it only seems better if they can implement it well, Sony and Nintendo's offering clearly has an easier method of controlling the in game character and a more proven method too. #numbernone
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sarcastic.angel
10/26/09

In reply to Braid Dev Seeks "Full Body Motion Tracking" Programmer
Hmm, this IS exciting. I'm a massive fan of Braid and so long as it's done smartly I think motion controls could be very interesting.

"The team is run by the designer/programmer of the critically-acclaimed game Braid; the team is full of itself and pretentiousness high. "
-Kobun

If a designer needs to be what Johnothan Blow is to make a game like he made, I'm ALL FOR IT. Braids basis in intellectualism and it's sucess in gaming toweres over any other game I've played in my life, it tied it's theme into the gameplay at every turn and produced an amazing puzzle game at the same time.

Or we can all keep playing Gears and Killzone. #numbernone
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xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx
10/26/09

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With this and all the japanese companies that were interested in Natal I think there may be some good stuff coming. Still I'm not sure I want Natal but I want games so if good games go to Natal then I'll buy it anyway. #numbernone
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excel_excel
10/26/09

In reply to Braid Dev Seeks "Full Body Motion Tracking" Programmer
Now that is interesting. Nice to see indie devs like him getting on board. Braid is awesome from the small amount I've played still waiting for the PSN release
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Kobun
10/26/09

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Work with a small team on a puzzle-exploration game that is philosophical, and quiet, and is being made for reasons other than crass profit motive. Because the team is small, your work will be a large influence on the Natal control of the final game. The team is run by the designer/programmer of the critically-acclaimed game Braid; the team is full of itself and pretentiousness high. #numbernone
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OpinionMan
08/05/09

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"Philosophical and quiet", just the perfect under-worker for a person as egotistical as Jonathan Blow.
If you sit down, be pretentious and nod your head, you'll be best friends with him in no time.
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Protector one
08/05/09

@OpinionMan: I don't think he 'does' friends. He's more 'mortal enemy of everyone' type of guy, I think. Indulging his pretentiousness will only temper his wrath a little.
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excel_excel
08/04/09

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2011 ouch. Still it'll be worth the long wait. Ah fuck it, I'm not waiting that long
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Fernando Jorge
08/04/09

@excel_excel: you plan on killing yourself or something like that in the next two years?
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UltimatePancakeSensation
08/04/09

@excel_excel: Unless you off yourself, it's not like you "won't wait that long."
If someone said there'd be a $100 bill next to your shoe on Friday, you'd pick it up. But if they changed it and said it would be by your shoe in late 2011, you'd still pick it up.
The amount of time you have to wait for a product does not have any direct correlation to whether you will buy it or not.
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excel_excel
08/05/09

@Fernando Jorge: Yeah. Well technically I'm going to freeze myself. See you losers in 2011 :P
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excel_excel
08/05/09

@UltimatePancakeSensation: Bah thats too long to wait for $100. Fuck that, freezing myself as we speak
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Dethgar
08/04/09

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-Like Braid, The Witness is planned for release on multiple platforms, "whatever makes sense in late 2011," according to the official description.-

I guess the PS3 and the PC "didn't make sense" in 2008.
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Grinning Colossus
08/04/09

@Dethgar: Jon Blow was in large amount of debt, and got a really good deal on the Xbox Live Marketplace. It did make sense for him. Braid is a game better fitting a console than a PC, and PS3 development is much more difficult than on the 360 and console, especially for an indie game. Notice how the port is being worked on by Hothead games and not the original developer.
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diagorus
08/04/09

@Grinning Colossus:
"braid is a game better fitting a console than a PC"
o_O
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Kyolux (Corsair)
08/04/09

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Not hating or anything, since the guy is more or less alone on this and has all my respect.

But if it's anything like Braid, he'll be putting almost 3 years on a game we'll finish in 3 or 4 hours? (But I realize this might be much longer than Braid too)

Seriously, someone backup his game and help him get some more staff behind it, without hindering his vision and everything of course.
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xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx
08/04/09

@Kyolux ate the cake.: I agree. It's sad that such great ideas are limited to how much attention they can get from their audience due to the longevity. It'd be nice if he got a big team but the bigger the team the higher the costs which puts the game back to being more risky so you could see less innovative games like in bigger industries.
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Zyrsyth88
08/04/09

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If it's anything like the quality that Braid was, then I await excitedly for this game.
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