@bijboy88: It's because by the time NHL 10 was available for sale, all of the NHL teams hadn't unveiled their "alternate" jerseys and so EA waits until they are all out and then releases a code which unlocks them in the game.
The jerseys were always in the game and are available on the disc, but as a favor to the NHL and teams, they don't show them and are blacked out in-game until all have been officially released and remain hidden. Once all are unveiled, they release the code that unhides them.
I wish the Avs jerseys weren't a different shade of blue or had more purple in them such as a bottom stripe.
they had the benefit of not needing to worry about mustard from a hot dog falling on them
the jersey was actually going to look a lot better but the league denied the logo they were going to put on front (ended up as a patch on the shoulder of all jerseys)
I'm a HARDCORE Devils fan. Sadly, our brilliant gm (not being sarcastic. lou lams is the best gm in pro sports) doesn't think we need a 3rd jersey for extra cash because it "cheapens" the franchise's reputation or something like that.
Oh well. I guess I should just be content with having one of the most successful organizations in pro sports be from my home state.
@Bubbleman!: The Devils will be wearing a special third retro jersey on March 17th against the Penguins. St. Patty's day and green uniforms. That seems like cheapening the franchise ;)
@The Magnificen7: It's only for one game, and it's only because of the holiday that it happens to be on. No way in hell would those jerseys ever be worn again, they're an eyesore.
I'm honestly glad that we don't have a 3rd, because chances are that it could be really ugly.Pittsburgh has the ugliest 3rd jersey in the league and teams like Washington seem to roll out a new jersey and logo every other season (an exaggeration, but I've seen like 6 different caps jerseys since i started watching hockey in 91).
@Flyhawk: I thought the same thing. When I saw the main pages information about this article I thought, "Let me guess, they are charging $3 to download this unlock code." I'm even more amazed that it is simply a code you put in the game, it seems like less and less games are allowing codes like that when they can charge people for every cheat and extra mode.
@Eviltim: It's not too surprising, this is how EA handled the new RBK jerseys for NHL 08. They got the designs before all the teams revealed them for the new season but were just told to wait until all were released to the public.
@Jakelshark: The preds are not doing badly (They are not on fire though) but if I ask most hockey fans "Hey did you hear what is going on with the preds?" I would more than likely get responses about their finances rather than their current streak. They are more a failing business than a hockey team right now...
The panthers just suck... (though I will never understand how they manage to always sign a top class goalie)
@Gaseous_Snake: I never mentioned any of those teams.
They started to play the 98-99 season. In the 01-02 season they became the 2nd fastest team to reach the 100 win plateau from the expansion in the 90s
They made the playoffs in 04, (no 05 season), 06, 07, 08. They were a bubble team for 09 (didnt make the cut by 3 points if my memory serves) and look like a bubble team this year again.
From the 06 to 08 seasons the finished 2nd in the Central division, a highly competitive one (the entire division almost made the playoffs last year, so dont point out that they ended 5th last year).
They had a weird history of potentially being sold out (but they are safe for now) but that has nothing to do about playing hockey.
Im a San Jose fan, but I dont like to hear shit talked about teams like Nashville. Just because they play in the south doesnt mean they cant compete. Cases in point: Dallas in 99, Tampa Bay in 04, Carolina in 06, Anaheim in 07.
@xcalibr: The Preds turned a profit last year. Not all teams could say that. And when you start off the season losing almost a lot of your games before rocketing to second in the central division...thats saying something (sure Detroit hasnt been doing too well either, but look at the Preds dramatic improvement)
@Jakelshark: I'm just a hockey fan - I follow a few teams, mainly the Bruins and Penguins, because I'm from the Boston area and grew up watching Lemieux and Jagr destroy people. Joe Thornton is my favorite player (super depressed when he left Boston) so I follow the Sharks heavily as well. It's not just random hating, it's just more a fact than anything else. I didn't mean Nashville doesn't win games, or that they aren't capable of winning games. I personally don't think they are impressive, regardless of records or anything like that. From an organizational stand point, there is nobody I can think of that will point out Nashville as a standout organization. Reputations do exist in sports, and Nashville is not established as a good one, in my opinion.
well yeah they arent a standout team, they arent an old team that can rely on tradition and fan base even when they suck (Leafs...) and people dont take most teams in the south seriously
hell, the Bolts and Canes are considered jokes and they have won the cup
But when it comes to the organization of the Preds, they are standout when you consider their incredible ability to compete on a shoestring budget. If Coach Barry Trotz (who has held the coaching position for tweleve years) had a bit of money to get some more name-brand talent, then people would recognize.
@Jakelshark: I dunno man. I've lived in the South my entire life (22 years) and I honestly can't name a single person I've met ever that's been a hockey fan. Hence my initial post. It's cool if it's growing, but if there's a market for it, it's definitely a niche one down here.
Ill admit its hard to find fans, especially if you arent in a city with a team, but they are around. I grew up and live in Memphis. I can find hockey fans without much problem.
Its just a sport that isnt commonly seen here. I dont know many people who dont like the sport after they seen a game and get the feel for the game
@Jakelshark: Hah! It's ironic you mention that because I've lived in Memphis most of my life too and said just the opposite. I don't live out in Collierville or Olive Branch with all the white folk though. =P
I live in midtown. And for fuck's sake there are the River Kings. They are actually pretty good and there aint nothing like buying a few beers, getting a ticket to a game (cheap and awesome seats), for a sweet sport.
I don't play conventional sports games, at all. Ever.
Ever.
That said, I'm honestly surprised that (and this could have been done already, I wouldn't know) some of these sports titles haven't taken the "Tony Hawk" route and incorporated some manner of Story Mode.
Start out as a regular high school football/baseball/basketball/whatever player, get your stats up to get recruited by a college team, repeat, sign with the majors, go for the superbowl/wolrd series, etc.
It seems like a good way to squeeze a little more narrative into a genre where you're basically paying full-price, year after year, for updated stats and rosters . #sports
NFL 2k is solely missed. I haven't played a NFL football game since 2k5. Madden's exclusive NFL license is one of the worse things to happen to video games since the deal was made. It proves that EA has an inferior product and didn't like the competition.
I won't be playing an NFL title again until Visual Concepts gets the license back. To hell with madden. #sports
@Striderhayasa - Can we get some damn m/kb support?!: for a while, I was one of those people that didn't believe, but I played NFL 2K5 recently, and I was amazed at how much better the gameplay is than Madden.
Do people still update and download rosters for 2K5? I might go re-buy it, as I had Madden 10 and after playing it for two weeks returned it. It's a broken game. #sports
@casmith07: there was a friend of mine that kept up with the updated rosters but that was a couple of years ago. I don't know if he does it now. Check google. There might be someone around doing it. #sports
@Striderhayasa - Can we get some damn m/kb support?!: there's some kind of editor out there, but nothing terribly concrete...would love to see that game reconstructed. I think the NFL's exclusive license is close to being up with EA Sports too. #sports
I never understood why 2K' didn't go the route of PES, and put "similar" teams with "similar" players in a football game that had everything else (gameplay, presentation, etc). Give the game a deep edit mode, and let the fans do the rest.
It's worked to keep PES an option in a category where EA's FIFA really has the money and the influence to get the licenses they want. #sports
There has long been a bias against sports games from "hardcore gamers", which has manifested itself in the relative paucity of honors the games have received. I think it's just because not many gamers are sports fans, maybe because the jocks pushed around the nerds in high school, I dunno. Also, until the Wii gave a new meaning to the phrase "casual gamers", the sports games were always viewed as the games that are played by people who aren't "real gamers."
The thing is, NHL or FIFA are actually excellent videogames on top of being excellent simulations of the sport. They are fast-paced and require tons of strategy and fast reflexes. The control is fine tuned and allows simple basic operations and very complex manuevers. There are tons of modes with near endless depth. Etc. For my money, FIFA 10 is one of this year's top games.
@Mokon: Very well said. Fifa is probably the hardest game I play every year, due to its depth and complexity. Every time I play I learn something new, it's like peeling an onion. Just watching the tutorials for what you can do is close to half an hour, then you need to learn when/how to do it. No game I've played in a while is as hardcore, and I don't know anyone who plays these games "casually." Everyone I know who doesn't play other games plays these with a passion, and they are way more obsessed with it than I am, though I'm the one with the most games. #sports
I definitely agree. NFL 2k5 is my favorite sports game possibly of all time. It's just a shame that the force that is EA Sports basically canned this franchise. Such a shame.
There needs to be some form of anti-trust action taken for this sort of stuff, lol. #sports
@P3nnst8r: The logical follow-up to that is "everyone should be allowed to make Batman movies"... I'm generally a super-liberal, anti-business pro-regulatory-body commie, but I'm not convinced that preventing IP holders from signing exclusive agreements is a solution to any pressing problem.
Still, I understand your frustration with a predatory business deal that has diminished the quality and quantity of selection. #sports
@Brett Benedict: Well, the big thing that hurt 2K5's gameplay was running with the QB was too effective, even with a spy put on him. I'm sure 2K6 would had fixed that one nagging issue. Too bad Visual Concepts never got the chance. :^( #sports
I think the most analogous situation to a sports game winning a GOTY award would be a documentary winning the Oscar for best picture. There's no reason a documentary couldn't win best picture; they're certainly not barred from the category. But the form just isn't one that critics and voters consider appropriate for an overall "best of" category.
And I think you're right, Owen, in that it has something to do with storytelling-- we consider that an essential criterion for a game that could win GOTY. Sports games simply don't tell stories; they create structures in which the gamer can tell a story. That, of course, brings us back to NFL 2k5, which used the ESPN format to come closer than any other football title to telling a story. It gets my nod as Sports Game of the Decade.
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You people have no idea how difficult it is to root for 'the BJ's'.
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the teams release them in the fall after the game is put out, so to keep them a secret, they have a code to keep them hidden
that said, the Preds 3rd jersey look great....took a bit to get used to, but Im getting a Shea Weber for Christmas
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The jerseys were always in the game and are available on the disc, but as a favor to the NHL and teams, they don't show them and are blacked out in-game until all have been officially released and remain hidden. Once all are unveiled, they release the code that unhides them.
I wish the Avs jerseys weren't a different shade of blue or had more purple in them such as a bottom stripe.
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they were mustard yellow, Flyers had the neon orange....before they made them home jerseys
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they had the benefit of not needing to worry about mustard from a hot dog falling on them
the jersey was actually going to look a lot better but the league denied the logo they were going to put on front (ended up as a patch on the shoulder of all jerseys)
12/07/09
Only NHL shirt I have is an old Mighty Ducks one, and I only got that before I was kinda big into hockey. I'm more of a Sabres man myself.
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Oh well. I guess I should just be content with having one of the most successful organizations in pro sports be from my home state.
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I'm honestly glad that we don't have a 3rd, because chances are that it could be really ugly.Pittsburgh has the ugliest 3rd jersey in the league and teams like Washington seem to roll out a new jersey and logo every other season (an exaggeration, but I've seen like 6 different caps jerseys since i started watching hockey in 91).
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I think the Pens have a great throwback jersey
go look at Atlanta, Avs or something to see a shitty 3rd jersey
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uh, Nashville Predators are on fire right now so I dont know what youre talking about
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Even the Panthers aren't a -terrible- team.
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The panthers just suck... (though I will never understand how they manage to always sign a top class goalie)
@Gaseous_Snake: I never mentioned any of those teams.
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They started to play the 98-99 season. In the 01-02 season they became the 2nd fastest team to reach the 100 win plateau from the expansion in the 90s
They made the playoffs in 04, (no 05 season), 06, 07, 08. They were a bubble team for 09 (didnt make the cut by 3 points if my memory serves) and look like a bubble team this year again.
From the 06 to 08 seasons the finished 2nd in the Central division, a highly competitive one (the entire division almost made the playoffs last year, so dont point out that they ended 5th last year).
They had a weird history of potentially being sold out (but they are safe for now) but that has nothing to do about playing hockey.
Im a San Jose fan, but I dont like to hear shit talked about teams like Nashville. Just because they play in the south doesnt mean they cant compete. Cases in point: Dallas in 99, Tampa Bay in 04, Carolina in 06, Anaheim in 07.
and hopefully Sharks in 10
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even so, it's not like hockey belongs that far south. Honestly, are there even ice rinks?
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what is it with people who are from the North that are so elitest about the sport?
you'd think hockey fans would like the fact that the sport is growing, but nooo
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well yeah they arent a standout team, they arent an old team that can rely on tradition and fan base even when they suck (Leafs...) and people dont take most teams in the south seriously
hell, the Bolts and Canes are considered jokes and they have won the cup
But when it comes to the organization of the Preds, they are standout when you consider their incredible ability to compete on a shoestring budget. If Coach Barry Trotz (who has held the coaching position for tweleve years) had a bit of money to get some more name-brand talent, then people would recognize.
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Ill admit its hard to find fans, especially if you arent in a city with a team, but they are around. I grew up and live in Memphis. I can find hockey fans without much problem.
Its just a sport that isnt commonly seen here. I dont know many people who dont like the sport after they seen a game and get the feel for the game
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I live in midtown. And for fuck's sake there are the River Kings. They are actually pretty good and there aint nothing like buying a few beers, getting a ticket to a game (cheap and awesome seats), for a sweet sport.
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Ever.
That said, I'm honestly surprised that (and this could have been done already, I wouldn't know) some of these sports titles haven't taken the "Tony Hawk" route and incorporated some manner of Story Mode.
Start out as a regular high school football/baseball/basketball/whatever player, get your stats up to get recruited by a college team, repeat, sign with the majors, go for the superbowl/wolrd series, etc.
It seems like a good way to squeeze a little more narrative into a genre where you're basically paying full-price, year after year, for updated stats and rosters . #sports
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I won't be playing an NFL title again until Visual Concepts gets the license back. To hell with madden. #sports
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Do people still update and download rosters for 2K5? I might go re-buy it, as I had Madden 10 and after playing it for two weeks returned it. It's a broken game. #sports
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It's worked to keep PES an option in a category where EA's FIFA really has the money and the influence to get the licenses they want. #sports
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The thing is, NHL or FIFA are actually excellent videogames on top of being excellent simulations of the sport. They are fast-paced and require tons of strategy and fast reflexes. The control is fine tuned and allows simple basic operations and very complex manuevers. There are tons of modes with near endless depth. Etc. For my money, FIFA 10 is one of this year's top games.
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There needs to be some form of anti-trust action taken for this sort of stuff, lol. #sports
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Still, I understand your frustration with a predatory business deal that has diminished the quality and quantity of selection. #sports
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[www.nfl2k5rosters.com] #sports
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And I think you're right, Owen, in that it has something to do with storytelling-- we consider that an essential criterion for a game that could win GOTY. Sports games simply don't tell stories; they create structures in which the gamer can tell a story. That, of course, brings us back to NFL 2k5, which used the ESPN format to come closer than any other football title to telling a story. It gets my nod as Sports Game of the Decade.