Brian Ashcraft, sorry to state the obvious but... you have forgotten to list Xbox 360 sales for 2009 and and also lifetime sales. Any chance you can update the piece with the 360 figures?
I'm less interested in 360 numbers ("bloody low" is enough for me) and more interested in how consoles did in previous generations and how the Wii and PS3 are comparing to them.
@Myspcr Shadow: I wouldn't mind knowing, bad or not it's only for comparison but I think they sold over 1 million anyway so compared with PS3 they're not trailing as bad as some would expect but it's not good obviously.
@Vishus: Oh no ignore my comment sorry. I misread the original post and only saw the last statistics (leading up to the end of 2008 rather than total for 2009) so I was comparing your chart which showed end of 09 sales to the end of 08 sales.
It's not the wording that threw me, I just skimmed for numbers and seemingly passed the 09 sales.
@FP_slomo788: Didn't it pass the million mark late last year (or was it early this year?). If it released in 2005 and only hit 1 million last year, I doubt it moved another million in 1 more year.
I just finished playing 4 player co-op with my friends and we made it half way into world 6. I LOVE this game so much. Sure, it's more chaotic but the things that were said when stuff happened. Examples:
One of those leaping fire chains approached us: "DON'T SHOOT FIRE AT IT-", "-SHOOT FIRE AT IT!!"
Or when someone activated a switch that dropped SO MANY coins down a bottomless pit: "Well, that's flushing $20 down the toilet."
Mario is still the most long living gaming idol of all time.....
even after so many years i still want to get my hands on all the mario titles they are just so classic.
so... I'll ask again since no one has replied to it in the articles:
so are we counting now? or are we still just chalking Wii success up to soccer moms, grandparents, and little kids?
or,
are we still ignoring games like this and insisting the Wii can't sell games for the *shudder* "hardcore"?
or is it this one...?
hardcore gamer, 2008: "Nintendo has abandoned the hardcore, go back to your roots! how about some 2D mario or something?!"
*2D Mario is announced*
*2D Mario is a wild success*
hardcore gamer, present day: "... I uh... er uh... stop going back to your roots, Nintendo! make somethin' new! geez!!"
Yes we are counting the amount of NSMBW sold. Did you not read the article?
or are we still just chalking Wii success up to soccer moms, grandparents, and little kids?
Of course we are. Do you think 56+ million core gamers bought a Wii?
or,
are we still ignoring games like this and insisting the Wii can't sell games for the *shudder* "hardcore"?
Please say it outright. Say that Mario caters exclusively to the "hardcore" so I can laugh at you.
or is it this one...?
hardcore gamer, 2008: "Nintendo has abandoned the hardcore, go back to your roots! how about some 2D mario or something?!"
*2D Mario is announced*
*2D Mario is a wild success*
hardcore gamer, present day: "... I uh... er uh... stop going back to your roots, Nintendo! make somethin' new! geez!!"
Your imagination is vivid. That's quite the amazing tale you've spun. Or can you actually link to a person that has said both of those things?
@azr: Bad thing is, you're wrong, probably delusional.
Nintendo didn't abandon the hardcore crowd, in fact I'd go so far as to say that Nintendo has been consistantly the same from the NES to today. Obviously, if Nintendo isn't moving then something else is.
And don't give me that crap, I've seen ALOT of people complain about how Nintendo conducts their business and then once Nintendo listens to them they complain about that.
@Bradley Litzenberger: Nintendo didn't abandon the hardcore crowd, in fact I'd go so far as to say that Nintendo has been consistantly the same from the NES to today. Obviously, if Nintendo isn't moving then something else is.
Delusional am I? Please read my comment again. Where in my comment do you see me saying that Nintendo abandoned the hardcore crowd? Now which one of us is delusional?
And don't give me that crap, I've seen ALOT of people complain about how Nintendo conducts their business and then once Nintendo listens to them they complain about that.
If you've seen alot of them, then you shouldn't have any problems showing me these commenters. If anyone has actually said any of this then they are most likely trolls or just immature children. Why the hell are you not ignoring those?
@Crash__Man: And what argument was I trying to build exactly? Bradley seemed to believe I was trying to argue that Nintendo has abandoned their hardcore crowd, which I was not.
Working retail, I've noticed Modern Warfare 2's sales have slowed down rather dramatically compared to the first week of sales, and unsurprisingly enough, the closer we get to Christmas, the more copies of New Super Mario Bros. Wii we seem to be selling. We can hardly keep it in stock now. Every shipment we get is gone within a few days, and the shipments aren't very small.
That's the strategy. Sell more Nintendo games while screwing third party developers/publishers. I wonder if any of those third party ever read the comments. I wonder if they realize they're being screwed by Nintendo. lol
@Realmjumper: Yeah, that's Nintendo's master plan, screw over third parties by making fun, relaiable games that anyone can play. It's not like they are stopping said third parties from doing the same.
@Bloodoflamb: I have always said the same thing, and I agree with you 100%.I'm tired of people defending third parties and tired of hearing third parties bitch and moan about how their crap shovelware games don't sell on the Wii. Their games don't sell because either they don't advertise or market them enough, or because the games suck to begin with. No matter how much you sugarcoat a piece of shit, it's still a piece of shit at the end of the day. It's obvious third parties are jealous of Nintendo, and I mean honestly, who wouldn't be? Not only are they extremely successful, but they've chosen a route that caught every single third party off guard. Nintendo's games are of the upmost quality, their games are almost always marketed and advertised incredibly, and Nintendo's games and hardware are reliable. There are incredible games out for the Wii from third parties, but like I said, they just weren't advertised whatsoever. Little King's Story? Exactly.
@firelogic: ...says the guy with the Devil May Cry avatar. How many of those were there, four?
Anyway, Nintendo DOES release new IPs. Wii Fit, Wii Sports, Endless Ocean, Disaster: Day Of Crisis, Captain Rainbow, Excite Truck/Bots, MaBoShi, Ouendan, Clubhouse Games, Hotel Dusk, Band Bros, Rhythm Tengoku, the amazing Art Style series... so your attempt at trolling isn't even based on truth.
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The 360's install base in Japan to date is about 1.2 million consoles.
It was about .8 this lime last year.
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It's basically liquid EWW!
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As you can see the market is about the same total, but split between the two new consoles.
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(I'm sure others are as well)
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Here's the past 12 months of cumulative sales in Japan for the three consoles.
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How so? The chart shows that the Wii was at 7.5 mil this time last year and about 9 mil today. The PS3 at 2.6 mil last year and about 4 mil today.
Where did you find a discrepancy or disparity? Are you Sure you read the article correctly? It is worded a bit odd.
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It's not the wording that threw me, I just skimmed for numbers and seemingly passed the 09 sales.
Also thanks for the link.
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One of those leaping fire chains approached us: "DON'T SHOOT FIRE AT IT-", "-SHOOT FIRE AT IT!!"
Or when someone activated a switch that dropped SO MANY coins down a bottomless pit: "Well, that's flushing $20 down the toilet."
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even after so many years i still want to get my hands on all the mario titles they are just so classic.
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so are we counting now? or are we still just chalking Wii success up to soccer moms, grandparents, and little kids?
or,
are we still ignoring games like this and insisting the Wii can't sell games for the *shudder* "hardcore"?
or is it this one...?
hardcore gamer, 2008: "Nintendo has abandoned the hardcore, go back to your roots! how about some 2D mario or something?!"
*2D Mario is announced*
*2D Mario is a wild success*
hardcore gamer, present day: "... I uh... er uh... stop going back to your roots, Nintendo! make somethin' new! geez!!"
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Yes we are counting the amount of NSMBW sold. Did you not read the article?
or are we still just chalking Wii success up to soccer moms, grandparents, and little kids?
Of course we are. Do you think 56+ million core gamers bought a Wii?
or,
are we still ignoring games like this and insisting the Wii can't sell games for the *shudder* "hardcore"?
Please say it outright. Say that Mario caters exclusively to the "hardcore" so I can laugh at you.
or is it this one...?
hardcore gamer, 2008: "Nintendo has abandoned the hardcore, go back to your roots! how about some 2D mario or something?!"
*2D Mario is announced*
*2D Mario is a wild success*
hardcore gamer, present day: "... I uh... er uh... stop going back to your roots, Nintendo! make somethin' new! geez!!"
Your imagination is vivid. That's quite the amazing tale you've spun. Or can you actually link to a person that has said both of those things?
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Nintendo didn't abandon the hardcore crowd, in fact I'd go so far as to say that Nintendo has been consistantly the same from the NES to today. Obviously, if Nintendo isn't moving then something else is.
And don't give me that crap, I've seen ALOT of people complain about how Nintendo conducts their business and then once Nintendo listens to them they complain about that.
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no soup for you.
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Delusional am I? Please read my comment again. Where in my comment do you see me saying that Nintendo abandoned the hardcore crowd? Now which one of us is delusional?
And don't give me that crap, I've seen ALOT of people complain about how Nintendo conducts their business and then once Nintendo listens to them they complain about that.
If you've seen alot of them, then you shouldn't have any problems showing me these commenters. If anyone has actually said any of this then they are most likely trolls or just immature children. Why the hell are you not ignoring those?
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No soup for you until you answer that question.
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Working retail, I've noticed Modern Warfare 2's sales have slowed down rather dramatically compared to the first week of sales, and unsurprisingly enough, the closer we get to Christmas, the more copies of New Super Mario Bros. Wii we seem to be selling. We can hardly keep it in stock now. Every shipment we get is gone within a few days, and the shipments aren't very small.
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Those mushrooms sure are somethin' hey Mario?
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Anyway, Nintendo DOES release new IPs. Wii Fit, Wii Sports, Endless Ocean, Disaster: Day Of Crisis, Captain Rainbow, Excite Truck/Bots, MaBoShi, Ouendan, Clubhouse Games, Hotel Dusk, Band Bros, Rhythm Tengoku, the amazing Art Style series... so your attempt at trolling isn't even based on truth.