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09/16/09
I Googled it though and the website looks awful, and there is no retailer in my hometown. So 'biggest retailer' or whatever is complete bullshit.
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09/16/09
And ten to one, games will be unit locked, so how do you intend to ever get your money back when your tired of a game?
The Go is also being put out to replace all older units and phase out UMD completely. Mark my words, within a year, many games will be DLC only. Just like I saw when BC for the PS3 was being removed that it was going to be removed completely, not downscaled, as people claimed.
09/16/09
I dunno...I much prefer having 30 games on one memory card than carrying around 30 UMDs...and the costs aren't really anymore than the price of the UMD's around here...unless maybe you go sniffing in all the bargin bins. But I can TOTALLY see the retailers outrage over the GO!.
09/16/09
09/16/09
Have you even bothered looking at the PSN store? Most Digital-Download titles are comparible, even cheaper in some cases, than their UMD brethren.
Do a little research next time.
09/16/09
09/16/09
And you can get almost every one of the titles on PSN, preowned for half, with box, book and disc. Let's see, what are people going to go for?
09/16/09
But seriously, I will laugh all of the laughs if any American company also boycotts the PSPGo. Sony is either doing this too early or are actually planning on being the dead guinea pig.
09/16/09
Let it die.
09/16/09
I'm getting one, no doubt
09/16/09
Yikes. Some people have WAY too much money. Give me some of it, as I can put it to much better use.
09/16/09
I don't believe for a second that they will. Regardless, they'll have to acknowledge that PSPgo's digital downloads cut into their profits. Why would they want to stock a handheld system that directly leeches their profits?
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09/16/09
Keep up the irrational chains of logic that lead to bizarre attacks like this one. It really helps move debates forward. No, really. No sarcasm. Totally honest. Stuff like this is really helpful.
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/sarcasm
09/16/09
HAHAHA, yes, that's what I'm for.
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09/16/09
I would love to hear about how you have been losing your money "to the very simple, yet very overpriced transaction of used games". Please do tell your tales of the horror-inducing used game system.
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09/16/09
Time and time again when games have moved online they haven't been any cheaper. In fact, a fair percentage of the time, they actually have cost MORE -- see XBox Classics for instance can cost more in some cases. Steam certainly isn't cheaper than retail (sales excluded) for PC games. And, semi-related, DLC actually runs significantly CHEAPER if you wait for it to come to retail in a pack.
It's not a phenomenon limited to games either. The vast majority of things that have moved to a downloadable media haven't gotten any cheaper than the physical media was.
Sony will just say that you're getting added benefit through the "convenience" of being able to download whenever you want, so they're justified in charging what they always did. It's not like you'll have any other option to source your games. At least with physical media if you have any gripe with the publisher/developer but still want the game you can just go buy it Used.
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09/16/09
"They do force you to buy a used game, if YOU WANT to buy the game from then anyway"
lolz
09/17/09
Ultimately, it doesn't matter whether YOU yourself sell a used game to GameStop. You're still going to pay development costs with a modest profit margin any time you buy a game. And if less people are buying it new, then you're paying more for it. Period. So don't pretend GameStop needs to force me to buy and sell used games to them. I'm already subsidizing the cheapskates whether I want to or not, and I'm happy to know that when I download a game for the PSPGo, I'm downloading a license just for ME, not for 10 other people down the line.
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09/16/09
It's like selling iPods. Retailers make very little off of the initial but when you sell a lot it becomes worth it.
09/16/09
09/16/09
That's not really a proper comparison..... Record labels still get money when you buy their music, anywhere and anyway you buy it. When you remove a physical product from the shelf of a store, the publishers still get money from the sales, but the brick and mortar sellers get no profit because there's nothing to sell.
09/16/09
If Sony want to shift these units, they're better off selling them themselves and cutting out the middle-man.
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Also, if I'm not mistaken, you can rip CDs onto ipods, correct? Having an MP3 player doesn't necessarily mean you stop buying CDs all together.
09/16/09
A niche retailer simply has less of an chance to promote opportunity buys to their customers. What we end up with is a world of Wal-Marts and Best Buys and no smaller chains specializing in one type of item.
Additional, and I've seen this absurd iPod analogy pop up several times through this thread, so I'd like to put the kibosh on it now.
If I buy an iPod and 10 CDs from Best Buy, will I be able to use those CDs with my iPod? Yes.
If I buy a Go and 10 UMD games, will I be able to use those games? No.
(Ah, I see Kris beat me to it. Well played.)
So please, drop this awful and inappropriate analogy. It is not applicable to this situation.
09/23/09
Now if these specialty retailers sell video games and video games only, it still does not make sense to not carry the GO under the logic of 'selling it to get people in the store'. Sure, they won't make money off of future game sales, but they could sell accessories and PSN cards (which if anything like an iTunes card, they get a small profit from it).
I am also willing to bet that the majority of people interested in the PSP GO are interested in other gaming products as well. Perhaps you have a PS3 at home. Or you are considering getting one along with your Go. Another fine reason to 'get people in the store'.
Lastly, if they make any profit from the system at all (I have heard many rumors that the high price factors in the larger cut the retailer will get from the system compared to other consoles-if not, my point still stands), why not just stock it? It will have the same physical footprint of a controller or a couple of games and they will be making some sort of profit, so why not?
09/16/09
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09/16/09
There are these magical things I've heard of called "memory sticks". Apparently they allow a person to carry more than one game at a time. Who knew?
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09/16/09
Custom firmware is ALWAYS a bad idea. Especially if you own a PSP 3000.
09/16/09
Can you explain to me how it's "ALWAYS a bad idea"?
And if he's too lazy to spend 5 minutes installing firmware on his PSP then he should also be too lazy to spend the time selling his old PSP and buying a new GO. So please, if you could explain your point in detail.
09/16/09
09/16/09
Installing custom firmware on your PSP does not void your warranty and it can't break the device. So considering that clearly you and him have no idea what you're talking about, his point is perfectly invalid.
Thanks, try again next time.
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09/16/09
Actually, it doesn't. [www.us.playstation.com]
Only HARDWARE modifications void your warranty.
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09/17/09
I'm sorry, if you're stupid enough to TELL SONY that you modified your PSP then you don't deserve to get a warranty replacement.
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09/16/09
That said, it wont sell enough. But let Nintendo do the same thing with their next handheld and Gamestop will be feeling some heat. They wont do it with the DS since its so established, but they might at least have some kind of game download service on the next one, since everyone seems to be getting down on some download-able games action lately.
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09/16/09
And I think Nintendo will have some sort of digital distribution with the next iteration of the Gameboy. Their slow to pick up on trends, but in 5-6 years (Thats how long I am giving the DS's lifetime from this date) I think DD will be way more established and mainstream.