Actually, I don't see Zynga being bought at this point. They are overvalued right now due to some shady advertising practices that are very close to going away.
With the new advertising restrictions that the founder just announced (in regards to their new game Fishville but applying to all of their other games as well), they stand to lose over a third of their $250 million revenue per year.
Plus, they haven't been working towards acquisition, the company is clearly positioning itself for an IPO. Playfish, Playdom, and others were great targets for acquisition.
Mark Pincus has a right to be nervous about this. Playfish was Zynga's primary competitor, and by using some of the resources that EA has at its disposal, they can very quickly overtake a lot of the momentum that Zynga has. Now if Zynga suffers due to this deal, THEN they may well find themselves on the buyer's block and not going the IPO route. #playfish
@Spoony Bard: But they can't go away. What would happen to my Cafe, and Fish and...oh hell, I'd finally be able to stop playing those stupid things that take forever to load! #playfish
Having been on the "about to be acquired" side of things when it comes to EA and social networks, I can definitely vouch for the seriousness they attach to making these purchases.
I'm not sure about the amount of money they seem to be spending, but what seems ridiculous at the time has a way of working out in the end. Getting access to these 150 million "installs" is a tad nebulous at the moment, but if they can turn that into 10 million people that form the equation EA = fun Facebook game makers in their minds, then they win. #playfish
@KingSnorky: Nothing too "insider-ish" unfortunately...
Just 18 months of ridiculous work in the hopes that somebody like EA (who showed some mild interest but never followed through) would buy the smallish company I was working for.
Working with them, and seeing/meeting their internal teams responsible for this type of entertainment really highlighted how many resources they were putting behind these efforts, though. They committed to this path a few years ago, and they've been plowing ahead since then trying to gobble up as much of the casual and community market as they can. #playfish
@Yossarian: I've been in the same boat but it was Yahoo that was interested in the company I was working for.
Despite what typical gamers may think, casual is something a lot people are looking at now. If you thought the Wii was disruptive to the gaming world, you haven't seen anything yet. #playfish
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I think the real reason MySpace isn't cutting it (and this is just in my opinion) is the same reason I won't let my kids be involved with MySpace, is for the simple fact everywhere you look on MySpace contains sexual matter. And the worst part about it is, that it's nothing but a bunch of young kids, taking pictures (TRYING to look older & sexy), and claiming they're 21 when thier really 12 n such. I must say, I don't think I've ever seen anything of the type on Facebook.
My girlfriend just joined facebook and she's bloody addicted to that 'farmville' game. Its a bit like a mini harvest moon except crops grow in real time so you have to log in and harvest them when they grow or else they wither. Its a nifty one
@(Hollow) svenhoek: Exactly. I've eventually gotten bored with it though. I don't want to plan when I'll be on Facebook next, just so I can play a game alone. It's pretty neat though.
@-Skyline-: its also a great way for socially inept people to hang out in their basements while talking to their old teachers while they're under the guise of being cool or popular.
@D-K, owhoo... how unfortunate..: A facebook event saves you a ton of time over calling everyone or mailing invitations. Even if you wanted to invite 200 people somewhere and only 100 had facebook, your efforts and time put in are still significantly lowered.
Facebook can be a tool that when used properly is actually helpful...
@-Skyline-: No I enjoy it. It's a bit like liking U2. Nobody admits to liking them, (I for one do) but the shows still sell out instantly. When I went home last week, I merely put up my travel dates and instantly had college and high school friends asking what bars I was going to.
Anytime something is cool, you're suppose to hate it if you want hipster cred. (However shopping at american apparel is still required!)
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@People with panties in a bunch: Losing touch with people is usually a sign of neglected social interaction be it trough phone, face or internet. The illusion of populairity or belonging one seems to get trough masses/hordes of "friends" seems bewildering to me. From my perspective people on facebook or Hyves or myspace or whatever seems to have hundreds upon hundreds of friends.. I have a full time job and 1 friend i actually do stuff with.
That said, the underlying thought of mass emailing, planning stuff and desperately trying to stay in touch via small notes or sporadic birthday related greetings seems lost on me. If i can't find the time to phone, meet or otherwise interact with friends/family/loved ones they're probably none of the three, therefore not worthy of my time. However i feel i must add i'm not much of a social butterfly, but 250 friends for the average facebooker just seems ridiculous to me.
@SeattleTed is proud to like Robert Zimmerman and is a bit of a douche: yes, the sharing of an opinion with people with similair intrest on a designated space assigned solely for this reason is exactly the same as Facebooking with any of the 250 "friends" listed. Also i did not approve of this comment, i merely replied to the thread..
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@D-K, owhoo... how unfortunate..: You even have many friends? I ask that due to the fact that majority of people who constantly criticize facebook and its users tend to be, themselves, socially inept or just pseudo intellectuals who feel deviating from popular trends somehow makes them LOOK like an individual thinker. Certainly not to say you are one of those individuals but I think you criticism of facebook is slightly unfair.
Facebook is a marvelous tool, like Youtube, its great for invigorating memories of yesteryear, arranging parties, advertising (yes, a social network should be praised if it can offer a medium for personal and corporate interests alike), and most of all: meeting up with old acquaintances/friends. I recently attended a school reunion shindig which never would have happened if not for the accessibilty of facebook. Your suggestion of the phone is a retarded one since in the nine years since our departure many of us relocated and changed contact details.
Its also a great way to kick off conversations with people who you may have conversed with little in the past and in doing so, become closer to the said individual. I will though call out Twitter, now that is an example of a celebrity-pandering nonsense if ever saw it.
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@uchennaokafor: As mentioned in my post i have 1 friend i actually do stuff with. I'm not calling into question any tools or apps Facebook is currently making use of. I myself have a Facebook account which i use to share videos with. I have a friend who lives in Switzerland (not the previously mentioned one) who updates me on his shenanigans trough videos.
My main grievance is getting messages, notes or invitations of people who know me indirectly, people who invite 1500 people to some club or social thing or people who share my fondness of a tv-show and insist i join their "elite" club.
The whole mass-interaction part of Facebook is what smells of poserism. That's what i feel is advocated with the whole false sense of belonging. Also i don't feel phoning actual friends is a retarded notion and i don't consider people i haven't seen in 9 years friends, but hey.. definition is up for grabs on this one
@uchennaokafor: Words on a computer screen isn't "socializing" it's an information exchange. I guess that's why they call it social networking, networking being the key word. Although it has turned into a way to accumulate meaningless acquaintances for some people.
@GoonerVance: Totally agree and if I somehow stated such in my post I stand corrected but I still think such exchanges are a benefit rather than a social misfortune.
@SpishackCola is The Black Squiggly!: "If you're that busy that you can't call a so-called friend to chat there's something wrong."
And that's the problem. You act like this is some either/or situation. It's not. I use Facebook to keep in touch with people from far away to communicate on a large scale where it would be, literally, too time consuming to call. I can have a conversation with 8 people at once instead of having to call each one of them and say the same damn thing.
Phones are great. Calendars are great. Meeting people face-to-face in the real world is essential. However, none of that means that using a social interaction tool, like Facebook, is somehow inferior. It's a tool, just like a phone, that can be used to make communication easier. Yes, some take it too far and use it as a social crutch or other tripe. Some people do the same with phones, video games, TV, etc.
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Good thing I left Myspace after my umpteeth time hearing that HELLOOOOOOOOOOO?!!! smiley face ad + those stupid personal/porn ads. Don't forget that feeling of being completely tracked/used/watched for commercial purposes.
@excel_excel: I don't use Myspace anymore for exactly that reason. I live in New York. Meeting women isn't exactly a problem. I was bored one day and photoshopped a bunch of those ads into really offensive jokes.
@D-K, owhoo... how unfortunate..: It shouldn't. Facebook is also tracking/using/watching you for commercial purposes. Unless your comment was sarcasm, which the internet fails to convey well. x_x
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@D-K, owhoo... how unfortunate..: To be fair, at least Facebook TRIES to limit the amount of ads. Myspace, on the other hand, makes sure that 50% of your screen is filled with clickable ad space. Much like IGN, in fact.
@D-K, owhoo... how unfortunate..: That is where you should be more aware. You are actually much less secure with Facebook. Facebook displays all of your crucial info such as email, precise birthday, address if you provide it, etc. Sure you can choose not to display, but all you need is the proper program and you can get around this. I've gotten into some people's profiles who I didn't even know because they used yahoo email and their security questions were birthday(which was right on their page) and what year they graduated(I took their age and guessed). At least with myspace it doesn't blatantly display these things.
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With the new advertising restrictions that the founder just announced (in regards to their new game Fishville but applying to all of their other games as well), they stand to lose over a third of their $250 million revenue per year.
Plus, they haven't been working towards acquisition, the company is clearly positioning itself for an IPO. Playfish, Playdom, and others were great targets for acquisition.
Mark Pincus has a right to be nervous about this. Playfish was Zynga's primary competitor, and by using some of the resources that EA has at its disposal, they can very quickly overtake a lot of the momentum that Zynga has. Now if Zynga suffers due to this deal, THEN they may well find themselves on the buyer's block and not going the IPO route. #playfish
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Whatever EA. I'm not resting until you make a Sim City for the network. #playfish
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I'm not sure about the amount of money they seem to be spending, but what seems ridiculous at the time has a way of working out in the end. Getting access to these 150 million "installs" is a tad nebulous at the moment, but if they can turn that into 10 million people that form the equation EA = fun Facebook game makers in their minds, then they win. #playfish
11/09/09
Seems like a smart purchase for EA. Sorta makes me wonder why Activision hasn't done anything in this area... #playfish
11/09/09
Just 18 months of ridiculous work in the hopes that somebody like EA (who showed some mild interest but never followed through) would buy the smallish company I was working for.
Working with them, and seeing/meeting their internal teams responsible for this type of entertainment really highlighted how many resources they were putting behind these efforts, though. They committed to this path a few years ago, and they've been plowing ahead since then trying to gobble up as much of the casual and community market as they can. #playfish
11/09/09
Despite what typical gamers may think, casual is something a lot people are looking at now. If you thought the Wii was disruptive to the gaming world, you haven't seen anything yet. #playfish
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"God, mom! Go away!"
"Open this door right now, young man!"
"Go away mom, I'm busy!"
"Right this minute, or I'm taking away your PSP and telling your gather"
*door opens*
"Billy! Have you been Beaterating in here?!?!?!?!"
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I'm not sure how you resisted, Fahey.
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Think we should set up a live streaming channel so people can watch?
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The answer is, good puns swallow.
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Man, I'm really reaching around for puns now.
07/24/09
Because EVERYONE KNOWS THAT TWITTER IS WHERE IT'S AT! (And MiXi too -- If You're In Japan!) (^_^)
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Farmville is like crack. Just like Bejewled where you play for 4 hours straight, then look around and go, "Why the fuck am I playing this again?"
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Oh yes, World of Warcraft. "MOAR DOTS!"
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That remides me i need to harest my starwberries :p
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I really don't see this ever coming to fruition in a meaningful way.
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Am i really the only person here who likes Facebook? o.O
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Facebook can be a tool that when used properly is actually helpful...
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Anytime something is cool, you're suppose to hate it if you want hipster cred. (However shopping at american apparel is still required!)
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That said, the underlying thought of mass emailing, planning stuff and desperately trying to stay in touch via small notes or sporadic birthday related greetings seems lost on me. If i can't find the time to phone, meet or otherwise interact with friends/family/loved ones they're probably none of the three, therefore not worthy of my time. However i feel i must add i'm not much of a social butterfly, but 250 friends for the average facebooker just seems ridiculous to me.
07/24/09
Actually io disaprove of this comment, though clarification of this fact might not have been necassary...douche
07/24/09
Facebook is a marvelous tool, like Youtube, its great for invigorating memories of yesteryear, arranging parties, advertising (yes, a social network should be praised if it can offer a medium for personal and corporate interests alike), and most of all: meeting up with old acquaintances/friends. I recently attended a school reunion shindig which never would have happened if not for the accessibilty of facebook. Your suggestion of the phone is a retarded one since in the nine years since our departure many of us relocated and changed contact details.
Its also a great way to kick off conversations with people who you may have conversed with little in the past and in doing so, become closer to the said individual. I will though call out Twitter, now that is an example of a celebrity-pandering nonsense if ever saw it.
07/24/09
My main grievance is getting messages, notes or invitations of people who know me indirectly, people who invite 1500 people to some club or social thing or people who share my fondness of a tv-show and insist i join their "elite" club.
The whole mass-interaction part of Facebook is what smells of poserism. That's what i feel is advocated with the whole false sense of belonging. Also i don't feel phoning actual friends is a retarded notion and i don't consider people i haven't seen in 9 years friends, but hey.. definition is up for grabs on this one
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And that's the problem. You act like this is some either/or situation. It's not. I use Facebook to keep in touch with people from far away to communicate on a large scale where it would be, literally, too time consuming to call. I can have a conversation with 8 people at once instead of having to call each one of them and say the same damn thing.
Phones are great. Calendars are great. Meeting people face-to-face in the real world is essential. However, none of that means that using a social interaction tool, like Facebook, is somehow inferior. It's a tool, just like a phone, that can be used to make communication easier. Yes, some take it too far and use it as a social crutch or other tripe. Some people do the same with phones, video games, TV, etc.
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Linkz r broken lol tits or gtfo.
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