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shimage
11/07/09

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If it isn't compatible with the original GH controllers (and I do not mean in some crippled fashion), they can kiss my money good-bye. #rockband
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gordiehowe5
11/07/09

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I have no idea what the hell they could do to accomplish this, but I'll give Harmonix the benefit of the doubt that they know what they're doing. #rockband
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ludwigk
11/07/09

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If I can import my music, I will buy. That is all. #rockband
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mrmonkey72
11/07/09

@ludwigk: The problem with music importation is that someone out there still has to make the note charts.

Being able to play custom mp3's, as long as someone has made a note chart, would be a fantastic feature though, I agree. The problem lies mostly with copyright. I think if they do choose to allow imported music, they'll have to just put out a tool for people to put in "non-copyrighted music" and then, when people are playing whatever illegal song, Harmonix will just have to shrug their shoulders and say, "well, we told them not to." #rockband
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ludwigk
11/07/09

@mrmonkey72: I mean my previously purchased RockBand music. I have RB1, RB2, Trackpack2, AC/DC trackpack, and some other individual tracks.

I am quite aware that you can't just take an arbitrary track and procedurally generate a playable song from it, and of the copyright issues that arise from derivative works.

They are indeed already developing a tool for creating tracks with music that you own the rights to. #rockband
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bobtheduck in Korea
11/07/09

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See, GH was the more difficult game... I liked RB because it was easy access. Something anyone could play.

I don't know if this concept is really going to work... I mean, Nintendo tried this back in the '80s with that NES keyboard, and that was as awesome as you can get for a piano tutor, but still didn't really catch on, did it?
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Avinant
11/07/09

@bobtheduck in Korea: Then again, it's been more than 20 years since the 80's. Maybe it's time. I kinda don't want this to happen because then EVERYONE is gonna know how to play guitar if this is successful. But maybe that's a good thing? #rockband
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gordiehowe5
11/07/09

@bobtheduck in Korea: Just because they want to go more realistic doesn't mean that they'll abandon the way the game is played now, so I'd imagine it'll be fully compatible with whatever guitars you have now if that's what you're comfortable with. #rockband
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Karlott
11/07/09

@Avinant: Back then, peripherals didn't sell like they do now, so it's a good point. Tons of people with current gen systems have joysticks, or custom controllers, or plastic instruments or something. Back then most people just had their consoles and perhaps the lightgun since it came with most of the SKUs. #rockband
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koldkalamity
11/07/09

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I'm excited for it. Do it Harmonix. #rockband
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ShaggE wants to join the Egg Council.
11/07/09

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I'm trying to learn guitar the old fashioned way (and failing miserably), but I'm certainly willing to give this a shot.

I don't see how it'd work, though. At least, not without being incredibly expensive. But I'll reserve my pessimism until it's more than a floating idea. #rockband
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Piata
11/07/09

@ShaggE wants to join the Egg Council.: Do a youtube search for "easy songs to play on guitar" and practice daily. That's the only way you're going to get better. #rockband
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ShaggE wants to join the Egg Council.
11/07/09

@Piata: Certainly. I've found some great sources on the internet to teach me everything from finger position to chord memorization tricks to cock push-ups and powerslides. (I've become an expert at grabbing the remote from KG's hand already.)

But I'd still give something like this a shot. Something that could theoretically tell me "You're doing it wrong... try it like this", and not charge a hundred bucks a week for the service would be wonderful. #rockband
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CockroachMan
11/07/09

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I think it's great that Harmonix is trying to do something new. The current GH/RB formula was overused already.

Would be cool if I could plug my real guitar to play the game. #rockband
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Numanoid: Derpatron
11/07/09

@CockroachMan: There's a PC game where you can actually do that. I've no idea if it's any good, but it's a neat idea. #rockband
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CosbyTheKinky
11/07/09

@Numanoid: Derpatron: It's great when it does work, but it has a hard time recognizing notes still.

Worth a try if you're enterprising. It's called LittleBigStar. #rockband
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CockroachMan
11/07/09

@CosbyTheKinky: @Numanoid: Derpatron: Sounds interesting.. I'll give it a try. #rockband
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Testamonium
11/07/09

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I'm glad to see some positive opinions making an appearance in what I honestly expected to be a host of jeers and complaints. I've been a musician for fifteen years, and have enjoyed everything Harmonix has done thus far. I have a lot of faith in their ability to present games to the public, and really, if they can make a game that actually helps people learn guitar that also remains fun... what's there to complain about?

Oh, right. If it actually works, all those people that bitch about learning a real instrument are going to need something else to bemoan. #rockband
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(Human) Gyaruson
11/07/09

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Let me get this straight.

- Playing drums in real life helped while transferring to Rock Band: pass

- Playing Rock Band/Guitar Hero on Expert helped while transferring to real guitar: fail

- Playing Rock Band might allow me to be better at guitar: ???

My mind is literally about to implode. After all those years of screaming at idiots who think that Guitar Hero can help them learn guitar, it might actually come true?! #rockband
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KaneRobot
11/07/09

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I enjoy Rock Band. I enjoy playing music "for real."

I also enjoy them being separate. #rockband
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Mister Jack started the Save The Lombax Foundation
11/06/09

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They already have "learn to play guitar" tv games that plug in with their own hardware, so I can see something like this being feasible for Harmonix down the line. I'd be interested in it for sure. #rockband
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-MasterDex-
11/06/09

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I think it's a good idea. Sure, there should still be the ability to still play it "old-school" but games have the potential to be excellent educational devices and if we can make a game that's fun for everyone but also allows for learning, I say go for it. #rockband
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Dennen
11/07/09

@-MasterDex-:

That's what i'm thinking they'll do. I don't particularly believe that Harmonix will ignore the very foundation that the game is founded upon. I can definitely see them releasing dual compatibility to allow both the traditional and new gaming controllers to work in a Rock Band 3.

I'm actually one of the people who would love to be able to hook up an electric guitar to a console and learn to play songs in this manner. Just because it's a real guitar and just because it happens to be hooked up to a game does not mean it can't be fun.

Can't there be learning how to play a real guitar, a game, and fun at the same damn time folks? Can't we all just get along? #rockband
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(Starman) Cookie_Monster
11/06/09

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George Harrison's always gonna live on forever, right up there on Cloud Nine in our hearts...

And if they say they can do it, then I'm all for it. This may help ease new players into "playing better all the time" and help connect better with other players. #rockband
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masterage
11/06/09

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Done right, it'd be a nail in the coffin that is Guitar Hero. Not the final nail, but it's still a nail.

Would be interesting, especially if the older guitars still worked. Best of both worlds? #rockband
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icedrake523
11/06/09

@masterage: That's a coffin that would be tough to nail down. Because of all the crap in it. GH3, GH:Aerosmith, GHWT, GH:Metallica, GH:On Tour/Decades/Modern Hits, GH:Smash Hits, GH5, GH:Van Halen, Band Hero. #rockband
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Oldboy26
11/06/09

@icedrake523: that list right there is nail in inself... #rockband
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masterage
11/06/09

@icedrake523: Of which most is the exact same experience. This new controller will force Activision to set up or be left behind... which is already happening due to the different DLC formats that GH has and RB doesn't.

Well, that and my tastes go more to RB, not GH. Character Design and difficulty, mainly. RB has a lot less fake difficulty songs.

However, there is still a flip side to this: RB3 might fail epically. Like, no RB1, RB2, L:RB, and older DLC compatibility, and the controller would change for the worse. I doubt the former would happen (it'd cause the death of Harmonix singlehandedly), but the latter is certainly possible. #rockband
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Dennen
11/07/09

@masterage:

I may be misunderstanding sir! But I think what's going on here is he's making fun of so many different versions exceeding the physical capacity that the coffin would otherwise be able to hold. Thus, can't shut the lid to nail it. Not... Not sure if everyone got that. #rockband
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masterage
11/07/09

@Dennen: I've never been known to understand subtlety. I see it now _< #rockband
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Sharkey1337
11/06/09

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If they can truly pull this off, I'm all for it. I picked up a guitar last year to try it out with a guitar-playing roommate, but we were both so busy I never got into practicing. This would help me ease into it if they can make this happen as I always find time for games. #rockband
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