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HowardC
11/04/08

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That would be terrible and sega would be right to pull the ads.....IF it were true. This is 2008 and animal rights laws have been in place in hollowood to prevent such abuse for over 25 years. Now do the math on that one and realize that unless they are using some REALLY old apes in the spots that they have NOT been abused.

Unless the spot was filmed in some back alley with black market apes I don't see how there coudl be any truth to the rampant speculation on peta's part.

Also its such a tragedy that the apes are sent to zoos after their career is over. Yeah considering most apes are on the endangered list and putting them in zoos and getting them to mate is the perfect way to SAVE the species.

(Btw they make them retire after puberty because great apes are extremely strong and extermely aggressive. Once they reach maturity they can easily kill a grown man without breaking a sweat. Bet peta never mentions that part.)

Stupid PETA morons!
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Bialia
11/04/08

@HowardC: read up on what it takes to train a chimp and keep it in line. it isn't pretty.
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PositivelyGreg
11/04/08

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Ah, Sega, you can undo the cruelty to the monkey, but can you ever undo the cruelty Samba de Amigo Wii unleashed upon my ever-too-hopeful heart?
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EmeraldDragon
11/04/08

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As usual, PETA is over generalizing. While it is true that some chimpanzee's are trained this way, it is a pratise on the decline. Furthermore, anytime there is an animal on set for filming, the ASPCA is there as well.
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Bialia
11/04/08

@EmeraldDragon: it is on the decline, and i'm no fan of peta, however there is no way to train a chimpanzee and keep it in line without resorting to methods that are, basically, appalling. do a little research. it is pretty devastating to watch. the cbc has a great documentary on animals in show business- if you find it, it's a great place to start.

animal testing for medical gain is a far cry from using these animals for entertainment, and ultimately profit.
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EmeraldDragon
11/04/08

@bialia: Don't watch those documentories. They make me cry. I also refuse to ever attend a circus because of how they treat the elephants.
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Bialia
11/04/08

@EmeraldDragon: fair enough. life is so short and so harsh. we should treat animals, and each other, better.
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KaemonKei
11/04/08

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And Peta once again is proven idiots.

Animals are animals.
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FBH (seems to be banned for that).
11/04/08

@KaemonKei: See? This kind of crap gets mixed in with the sane, educated remarks against PeTA and then everyone loses.
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Jayl3w
11/04/08

@futurebiblehero: Amen.
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LucasReis
11/04/08

@Jayl3w: Amen twice.
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Modus_Operandi
11/04/08

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PETA seriously STFU. Considering the atrocities that rountinely occur around the world involving humans the fact that some chimps get slapped and shocked a bit is far down the list of shit to get your panties twisted for. Go throw some paint on some minks somewhere and keep your righteous attitude reserved for slack jawed Hollywood trogolydtes that need something to pose nude for.
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Jayl3w
11/04/08

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I like animals. I do, I love animals, they're usually for more entertaining and nice to be around then your average person and yet, I fucking despise PeTA.

I hate them with a blood-curdling passion.

They have some totally skewed views on what constitutes animal abuse (read into the PeTA doctrine. They consider anyone who have pets to be terrible, immoral people) as well as being some of the biggest hypocrites I've ever had the misfortune to come across.

If you like animals, join some other group (like, say, the ASPCA). If you like the attention of saying you're an animal rights activist but don't actually give a shit about animals, are totally okay with violent terrorism, and love you some hardcore hypocrisy then join PeTA.

Keep in mind folks, these are the people who have said that the holocaust was "no big deal" compared to how many chickens are eaten a year.
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FBH (seems to be banned for that).
11/04/08

@Jayl3w: You said what I trying to, but did a much better job at it. Exactly.
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Modus_Operandi
11/04/08

@Jayl3w:

Good grief. A sensible sane take on PETA. You have now been targeted for termination. lol
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LucasReis
11/04/08

@Jayl3w: I agree with you 110%! I love animals but Peta is ridiculous. You said everything I wanted to say anyway! :)
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topaz420
11/04/08

@Jayl3w:

First, they wholeheartedly support animal adoption, and even encourage adopting more than one if you can so that your companion animal will itself have companionship when you're not around.

Second, you have taken their remarks out of context with respect to chickens. The point was that, TO A CHICKEN, every single year is a holocaust. If you don't believe that, take a trip to your local slaughterhouse and see how employees wear earplugs to drown out the perpetual screaming of the innocent birds.
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Bialia
11/04/08

@Jayl3w: kudos!
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LucasReis
11/04/08

@topaz420: I read it. They don´t really "support" animal adoption. They said that in an "ideal" world people wouldn´t have animals in their houses, so they "prefer" people adopting animals than buying them from breeders or petshops. In other words, BS. They even bitch about cats peeing on little boxes, c´mon...
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FBH (seems to be banned for that).
11/04/08

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PETA's antics have given them such a bad name that they're currently taken about as seriously on animal rights as KFC is. It's completely counter-productive, and leads to people saying stupid bullshit like "I support animal testing!" in a knee-jerk reaction to them. All PETA does is preach to their choir while ostracizing the people they aim to educate.

It's important to know that there are people out there that are passionate about animal rights that want absolutely nothing to do with PETA. It's a shame that any other animal rights organization doesn't get half the attention as these hypocrites and psychopaths do.
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FBH (seems to be banned for that).
11/04/08

@futurebiblehero: (And I'd like to clarify that I too support animal testing in the realm of medicinal research. I just don't support it for, say, Paris Hilton's new perfume).
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hahnchen
11/04/08

@futurebiblehero:No, supporting animal testing is not a fucking knee-jerk reaction to them. In the same way that supporting nuclear power isn't a knee jerk reaction to global warming, no matter what the anti-science, anti-development pseudogreens try to spin.

I support animal testing, plain and simple. The lives of animals, are worth the the scientific advances afforded to us through animal experimentation. I don't have to justify or qualify that statement, I'm not even going to get on that slope.

I support animal testing.
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FBH (seems to be banned for that).
11/04/08

@hahnchen: People like you aren't inclined to make knee-jerk reactions on the subject, yet you failed to read what I said a few lines later? That's rich.
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Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.
11/04/08

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Uh ok....?

PETA really remind me of a messed up Nazi group.
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Llost
11/04/08

@Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.: Because they give cookies and thanks to people bringing awareness to abuse? Isn't that the opposite of a Nazi group?

I think it's just become popular to dislike green peace and PETA but that's kind of sad to say they only really try and make sure abuse of animals and eco friendliness is apart of life.
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P-Flute
11/04/08

@Llost: Read some of the other posts around here about why PETA sucks.

Summary 1) Their ideals are way too far by most standards (They consider owning pets cruel.)

Summary 2) They actually make things worse for animals by being so batshit crazy.
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Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.
11/04/08

@P-Flute: Exactly, they speak of things that should be common sense and dignity but they're actually quite messed in the head beyond that.
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ThisCharmingMan
11/04/08

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Aaaand, cue the PETA hate. Not that I agree with all of PETA's tactics, but I have an insane amount of admiration for people dedicating their lives to protection living beings that are unable to speak for themselves. This monkey thing is a lot like the treatment of greyhounds at race tracks. They race for a year or two, are kept in tiny cages, and when THEIR career is over, say, at the ripe old age of 3 or 4, owners starve them to death. Why? Because it's cheaper to get rid of them that way without having to pay to have them put to sleep, and hey, it saves them money on food. Sickening. Kudos to PETA and SEGA.
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kingofrain
11/04/08

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Wow, there are some ignorant people on here. Animal testing is not right because the animals have no choice and are subjected to cruelty and abuse. At least humans can make the decision to be tested on if they so please. And yes, there are people in the world who care a lot about animals. It doesn't mean that they don't care about humans. They just have to stand up to a lot of humans in the animals' defense because the animals can't defend themselves. What happens to animals who defend themselves? They are hunted down and killed. Do you really feel that is fair?
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Ted
11/04/08

@kingofrain: Without Animal testing, medical science would come to a complete stop. Your best friend with diabetes would most likely be dead if it weren't for animal testing.
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Wii-Tard
11/04/08

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Real chocolate is real...
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Wii-Tard
11/04/08

@Wii-Tard: Vegan chocolate is also real, I might add.
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Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.
11/04/08

@Wii-Tard: You need to try some Unreal Chocolate from Epic.
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hahnchen
11/04/08

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PETA, fucking imbeciles.

I support animal testing.
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Jezuz
11/04/08

@hahnchen: Better than human testing, that's for sure.
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tzaketh
11/04/08

@Jezuz:

Well, I'd say that depends on the human and the animal. I can think of a lot of people I'd kill to keep my dog alive.
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Jezuz
11/04/08

@tzaketh: That's true, but no one tests on dogs, just evolutionary challenged monkeys.
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Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.
11/04/08

@Jezuz: Oh god that statement and your nickname just go together so well.
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greeneggsnsam
11/04/08

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We explained how "actors" are taken away from their mothers when they are just a year or so old and forced to perform confusing and repetitious tricks. We also explained some of the horrible methods that "acting schools" use, such as electric shocks with shock collars and prods, isolation, beatings with sawed-off pool cues and slapjacks, and food deprivation. Then, at the ripe old age of just 8, the "actors" reach puberty and their showbiz careers begin-they end up being dumped at dismal soap operas or sold to laboratories for experimentation.
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Hamsfork
11/04/08

@greeneggsnsam: Wait does this mean I can get a trained 8 year old chimpanzee actor for really cheap? I need to get in on this. Having a chimpanzee would kick ass.
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Antiterra
11/04/08

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But Super Monkey Ball promotes cruel and unusual treatment of monkeys. How's about that, PETA?
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balls187
11/04/08

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why is vegan chocolate not real chocolate?
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Calhoun
11/04/08

@AlanR: The same reason soy milk isn't real milk.
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FBH (seems to be banned for that).
11/04/08

@Calhoun: Chocolate doesn't come from chocolate cows.
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SPni
11/04/08

@futurebiblehero: Yeah. But real chocolate contains milk derivatives therefore not vegan.
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FBH (seems to be banned for that).
11/04/08

@SPni: But it's not a pre-requisite for it to be considered "chocolate". There's a lot of great, dairy-free chocolate out there (I'm not a vegan, but happen to love dark chocolate).

Just because Hershey's uses dairy, it doesn't mean that it's an essential ingredient.

Why am I talking about this?
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Wii-Tard
11/04/08

@SPni:

"Chocolate comprises a number of raw and processed foods that are produced from the seed of the tropical cacao tree."

Milk chocolate has milk derivatives, real chocolate however doesn't have to, and rarely has anything non-vegan.
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torara
11/04/08

@Wii-Tard:

Usually when people talk about chocolate, they're either talking about a milk chocolate or a dark chocolate. Milk is non-vegan for obvious purposes, and while dark chocolate lacks milk, it has some fat content, vegan or otherwise--most cocoa products do. So saying a chocolate is vegan eliminates quite a few possibilities.
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balls187
11/04/08

@Calhoun: You've obviously never had really good chocolate then.
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balls187
11/04/08

@AlanR: Chocolates that contain milk are a subset of all the chocolates.

I know that Fahey was trying his best to be "snarky."

Still, vegan chocalate is quite good.

Then again, so is raw milk cheese!
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