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    Image of NeVeRMoRe666 NeVeRMoRe666
    12/15/09

    In reply to Mod Tools Coming For Modern Warfare 2?
    Damn, that picture reminds me. Kotaku, WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER PHOTOSHOP CONTEST!!!
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    Image of Hey_Blinkon Hey_Blinkon
    12/15/09

    In reply to Colorblind Petition for Modern Warfare 2 Patch
    Omigod, Modern Warfare 2 is such a sexist game! They have it tailored to disadvantage the color blind, who are men, which means that they are favoring women. Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!
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    Image of Malloc Malloc
    12/15/09

    In reply to Colorblind Petition for Modern Warfare 2 Patch
    This strikes me as one of those things that should be...Well, not mandatory per se, but common and expected in the way that having subtitles on a DVD is common and expected.

    I dated, and then lived with, a girl who was completely deaf in one ear and about 90% deaf in the other ear without some form of hearing aide. Childhood meningitis had knocked out most of her hearing, so she grew up more or less without the ability to hear. She used to tell me about how she loved to play games on the computer as a kid. Adventure games and the like were usually told entirely in text, so the lack of hearing didn't matter. As CD ROMs became common and the games started switching over to voice, she eventually gave up on games entirely because subtitle support was so spotty.

    We bumped into this when I fired up Half-Life one day because she wanted to check it out; we were a bit stunned when we realized that, hey, Half Life 1 has no subtitles!

    I actually fired off a letter to Gabe Newell about it sort of on a random whim (I figured hey, worst he'll do is ignore it); surprisingly, I got an answer back within 24 hours. Gabe had forwarded it to Marc Laidlaw at Valve, who sent me a script of Half-Life 1 to print out for her to read while she played, which was astoundingly nice of them insofar as I wasn't expecting any kind of answer at all, let alone such a personalized one.

    He also mentioned that the company had received complaints from deaf gamers over the first game, and had made it a company policy to have full captioning for all their games from that point out to avoid alienating that community ever again. They have, too: Check out any of Valve's releases from Half-Life 2 on and they have astoundingly good sound-to-text support.

    It'd be nice to see this kind of thing offered for the colorblind as well, again as a standard thing you just come to expect. If anything, it'd be easier to implement than captioning, at least for minor stuff like changing the color of player names to something more easily distinguishable to colorblind folks. That, subtitling, basically anything that can be done reasonably easily to increase the accessibility of a game to an audience would be a great habit for companies to get into.
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    Image of Moonshadow101 Moonshadow101
    12/15/09

    In reply to Colorblind Petition for Modern Warfare 2 Patch
    C'mon, you know that 10% number is inflated. Every group under the sun claims to have 10%. Two digits just looks better. If you believe these folks, 1 in every ten people is a colorblind homosexual depressed hyperactive vegetarian midget.
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    Image of Owen Good Owen Good
    12/15/09

    @Moonshadow101: RTFA.

    "I realize that when fewer than one in 10 men deal with this kind of vision ..."
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    Image of Moonshadow101 Moonshadow101
    12/15/09

    @Owen Good: IDRTFA

    "almost 10 percent of people"

    "fewer than one in 10 men"

    You're not numerically incorrect, but the fact remains that you are using the number ten in order to draw attention.
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    Image of Hey_Blinkon Hey_Blinkon
    12/15/09

    @Moonshadow101: You mean there are others like me?!? :P
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    Image of Cookie Cookie
    12/15/09

    In reply to Colorblind Petition for Modern Warfare 2 Patch
    One in ten seems like a big number to me. Especially in COD numbers. An option to change the enemy/friendly color schemes seems like it would be easy to do, and would be a baby step to making video games more accessible to the visually impaired.
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    Image of NeVeRMoRe666 NeVeRMoRe666
    12/15/09

    In reply to Colorblind Petition for Modern Warfare 2 Patch
    Wait...what? I can't see shit either... *starts kicking the backseat of the van*
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    Image of Thejamielynch Thejamielynch
    12/15/09

    @NeVeRMoRe666: "You got get that young stuff while u still can. That young stuff is the best thing in the world" haha good movie.

    My best freind wanted to be a pilot and is color blind so that part made me crack up too
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    Image of NeVeRMoRe666 NeVeRMoRe666
    12/15/09

    @Thejamielynch: lol. You're a horrible person. :p
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    Image of Pretty Sneaky Sis Pretty Sneaky Sis
    12/15/09

    In reply to Colorblind Petition for Modern Warfare 2 Patch
    Signed. This kind of deal ought to be standardized by now ... Albeit we do have to question to what degree we should address other similar issues.
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    Image of -MasterDex- -MasterDex-
    12/15/09

    In reply to Mod Tools Coming For Modern Warfare 2?
    Too little too late, I'm afraid. IW made their bed and they can sleep in it.
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    Image of Polite Society Polite Society
    12/15/09

    @-MasterDex-: a bed of money. lots of money.
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    -MasterDex- promoted this comment Polite Society was starred Polite Society was unstarred
    Image of -MasterDex- -MasterDex-
    12/15/09

    @Polite Society: But it's dirty, dirty money and once that money is gone, all that will be left is the dirt.
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    Image of Mad-Hobo Mad-Hobo
    12/15/09

    @-MasterDex-: good thing its a mountain of cash.
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    Image of -MasterDex- -MasterDex-
    12/15/09

    @Mad-Hobo: All the more dirt to be left. :)
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    Image of Mad-Hobo Mad-Hobo
    12/15/09

    @-MasterDex-: A mountain on a mountain?
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    Mad-Hobo was starred Mad-Hobo was unstarred
    Image of Scazza Scazza
    12/15/09

    In reply to Mod Tools Coming For Modern Warfare 2?
    Fix 360 version plox!
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    Image of mintycrys is HOT for Bayonetta mintycrys is HOT for Bayonetta
    12/15/09

    In reply to Colorblind Petition for Modern Warfare 2 Patch
    BTW, Owen are you Protanopic or Deuteranopic? Color blindness pops up frequently in our family, and my last girlfriend was Tritanopic, and to hear the way she described what she saw would be the equivalent of me taking a magnet to the television as a tyke.

    Dad's Protanopic, too.
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    Edited by mintycrys is HOT for Bayonetta at 12/15/09 9:19 PM mintycrys is HOT for Bayonetta was starred mintycrys is HOT for Bayonetta was unstarred
    Image of (Starman) Starman (Starman) Starman
    12/15/09

    @mintycrys is HOT for Bayonetta: Sex-linked genes is a total bitch. Sucks for your whole family, dude.

    Is there any special medicine and equipment that your family members have to use?
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    Image of mintycrys is HOT for Bayonetta mintycrys is HOT for Bayonetta
    12/15/09

    @(Starman) Starman: No medicine or anything. It hasn't popped up this generation (i.e. me), so I'm not worried at the moment. My kids might be in trouble, though.
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    Image of deanbmmv deanbmmv
    12/15/09

    In reply to Colorblind Petition for Modern Warfare 2 Patch
    And one thing we can pull from this is that Owen mustn't really be fussed about the 7th gens massive amount of muddy brown shooters.

    So what exactly would they change? team markers n such, or the actual uniforms? I'd guess that markers wouldn't be hard, but uniforms could be tricky.
    Is there no filters? Like how schools give out yellow paper to some kids, and I think some get like a screen thing(it was a while ago okay :P)

    And surely 10% isn't a small number. I'm amazed its that high tbh. Especially as that seems a big enough number that checking your game works okay for colourblind would be some part of your QA.
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    Image of Sean Hunter Sean Hunter
    12/15/09

    @deanbmmv: ++ on the QA part. isn't this supposed to be why QA/testing exists?! surely it could not be that hard to find a single colorblind tester
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    Image of deanbmmv deanbmmv
    12/15/09

    @Sean Hunter: Well thats the weird thing, IW have been advertising for jobs for a whiel :P
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    Image of buddhathing buddhathing
    12/15/09

    In reply to Colorblind Petition for Modern Warfare 2 Patch
    It's a schooner. If you're colorblind, it's a sailboat. I can't see shit.
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    Edited by buddhathing at 12/15/09 9:14 PM buddhathing was starred buddhathing was unstarred
    Image of kelbear kelbear
    12/15/09

    In reply to Colorblind Petition for Modern Warfare 2 Patch
    Seems like an easy enough thing to patch in. I'd understand balking at making changes to fit a minority, but this is fairly cheap to implement as an option. While color-blind folks are a minority, it's a pretty darned big minority.

    Lots of people you've met may be colorblind but you never know until they make a mistake.

    On a side note: The colorblindness /really/ sucks for color-based puzzle games like puzzle fighter or bejeweled. Some of the more thoughtful developers of puzzle games differentiate by shape as well as color.
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    Edited by kelbear at 12/15/09 9:06 PM kelbear was starred kelbear was unstarred
    Image of lynxij lynxij
    12/15/09

    @kelbear: I'm colorblind as well - Games like Peggle have colorblind modes that help tremendously. I'm kind of shocked Bejeweled doesn't have a Color blind mode as well.
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    Image of crunks crunks
    12/15/09

    In reply to Mod Tools Coming For Modern Warfare 2?
    Backpeddling Begins, starring Soap McBale.
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    Image of madog madog
    12/15/09

    In reply to Colorblind Petition for Modern Warfare 2 Patch
    I can't imagine a color change for names or dots on a map to cost more than maybe one man hour if it were to piggyback on an already planned update. Unless it included an option to alternate between choices, but even then, maybe a day for a few people from the necessary departments to get together?

    But then again, for all I know about programming this could require 15 hot dudes in tight pants with a trained monkey and a bottle of Jack to get completed.
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    Edited by madog at 12/15/09 9:05 PM madog was starred madog was unstarred
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