That Aion is a recent localisation of a game released in South Korea over a year ago may suggest that Korean fans are much more tolerant of xp grind than we are.
Now I'll only have to kill ~500 critters to get my three level 22 characters to the Training Grounds instead of 1,000.
It is too little too late for me at least. Maybe if they did this at launch I would have considered putting up with the bot spam and stuck around longer than the first month.
I know the bot spam probably got better and if I were in a guild that ran things then the game isn't that bad. But the reality is most people aren't in well organized guilds in mmorgps.
Even in WOW, the king of mmorpgs pubs groups are frustrating, not fun and generally hated.
The core part of Aion is the abyss, it is a shame that in order to get to the real game you have go through an annoying grind and then find out your reward is an even more annoying grind.
Funny thing is, the game doesn't get all that grindy until level 35. Go figure. People who take advantage of this will be in for a rude awakening once you hit 35 and have to run Mist Mane a hundred times.
@Telecinision: Yo dude... the most fanatical hard core leveler I knew in WoW gave up on that game because of how grindy it is at lvl 35. Apparently you just straight up run out of quests... ? What is that! O_o
@holidays! cat: There is quests, but quests won't cover 100% of the XP of the level above that point, but there is so many more things to do to get XP anyway, like go and run an instance run good XP eg. At 37 there is many group quests who gonna take quite a while and overall to finnish them you get a few levels to.
However after 40+ specially 45+ your not going to see very many quests, but there is still quite a lot of things to do. 45 you have like 4 instances to run and have fun with.
But the average MMO player want all gear everything within the first hour they play an MMO, they want it served and reached end game at once.
@holidays! cat: I'm pretty much out of quests around 40, apparently it picks up from 40-45 because the Steel Rake instance gives good xp, but then the last five levels are just terrible.
I wonder if World of Warcraft is going to get 16 expansions? I kind of miss playing EQ because I only got to level 18 on my highest toon back in the day. I wonder how much it costs just to buy all of those xpacs wow.
Blizzard's never been too 'big' on expansion packs, I don't think. Warcraft II had one, and I don't think that that one was even a standalone edition. Warcraft III had one, Starcraft had one, Diablo II had one ... Diablo 1? Is Hellfire a Blizzard expansion?
If World of Warcraft gets sixteen expansions (considering it hasn't even gotten its third yet), that will probably take a game life of ... wow. Even longer than EverQuest has been around, that's for sure ...
@dracosummoner: Well in roughly the same amount of time, Eq2 has gotten 5 expansions (and soon a 6th expansion). WoW has barely cranked out 2, with a 3rd on the way.
And with Blizzard's merge with Activision.. I would imagine they would try to pinch every nickel and dime out of their gaming base... so they might someday get to 16 expansions :/
@dracosummoner:WC2: Beyond the Dark Portal. Also, they released a map pack... I believe it was calle "The Next 70 Levels". Just, you know, throwing that out there.
That's it. Thank you. I own the WCII Battle.Net edition, but I couldn't remember if "Beyond the Dark Portal" was always bundled with the original WCII (once the expansion came out, that is) or not.
@DigitalHero: I've never played the game, so I might be missing out on something, but surely the game can still work properly with a new engine? Turbine have updated the engine for Lord of the Rings Online numerous times, nothing too major admittedly, but they upgraded it to benefit from DX10, and they're doing the same with DX11. It makes the game look a lot nicer than it did at launch.
@Iarwain:
The engines have been updated to support the later direct x versions but it's still basically the one used from the original. I do not believe its all new.
@BallPtPenTheif: No definitely not. I often hear EQ1 uses more system resources to run than WoW. I have seen the RAM used pass 1GB in some of the newer zones.
@BallPtPenTheif: There was no port of EQ1 off the PC aside from to Macs (and that one only has up to the PoP expansion. The PS2 thing is a totally different game.
This was vaguely confusing for me at first. I read it and thought, 'AoC is dying in 2010? Already? Didn't they just announce an expansion?'
I find it really odd that they're doing a 'forever' free trial on a limited sign-up basis. Is there a particular reason they're limiting it, I wonder? Do they just want to try and persuade new folks to try the game before the expansion comes out?
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Now I'll only have to kill ~500 critters to get my three level 22 characters to the Training Grounds instead of 1,000.
Zzzzzzzz....
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...only to sell out to Sony and start producing power pop.
12/15/09
I know the bot spam probably got better and if I were in a guild that ran things then the game isn't that bad. But the reality is most people aren't in well organized guilds in mmorgps.
Even in WOW, the king of mmorpgs pubs groups are frustrating, not fun and generally hated.
The core part of Aion is the abyss, it is a shame that in order to get to the real game you have go through an annoying grind and then find out your reward is an even more annoying grind.
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However after 40+ specially 45+ your not going to see very many quests, but there is still quite a lot of things to do. 45 you have like 4 instances to run and have fun with.
But the average MMO player want all gear everything within the first hour they play an MMO, they want it served and reached end game at once.
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Blizzard's never been too 'big' on expansion packs, I don't think. Warcraft II had one, and I don't think that that one was even a standalone edition. Warcraft III had one, Starcraft had one, Diablo II had one ... Diablo 1? Is Hellfire a Blizzard expansion?
If World of Warcraft gets sixteen expansions (considering it hasn't even gotten its third yet), that will probably take a game life of ... wow. Even longer than EverQuest has been around, that's for sure ...
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And with Blizzard's merge with Activision.. I would imagine they would try to pinch every nickel and dime out of their gaming base... so they might someday get to 16 expansions :/
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That's it. Thank you. I own the WCII Battle.Net edition, but I couldn't remember if "Beyond the Dark Portal" was always bundled with the original WCII (once the expansion came out, that is) or not.
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I did forget about the Activision factor.
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Also, the devs working on this are very attentive to the players needs unlike some of the other MMO's out there, including other SOE MMO's.
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I played the game for 5 years and quit with planes of power, but sometimes I do wonder what it would be like to return to the world of Norrath.
I did enjoy my time with the game.
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They are still using the original 10 year old engine. They have to for continuity and the keep the game working properly.
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The engines have been updated to support the later direct x versions but it's still basically the one used from the original. I do not believe its all new.
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Nothing wrong with expansion content and its amazing that the game is still going at 10 years of age.
I'm sure the people who still subscribe will disagree you.
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In her face the mirror of your dreams."
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I wonder if they could port EQ1 to the iphone?
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At least give us some Ultima or Diablos styled pixel based MMO. I want loots on my i-phone.
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I find it really odd that they're doing a 'forever' free trial on a limited sign-up basis. Is there a particular reason they're limiting it, I wonder? Do they just want to try and persuade new folks to try the game before the expansion comes out?
Strange, anyhow.
12/14/09
I'm glad I read it to the end. I think I might actually take advantage of this :)