I've been expecting something like to happen for a while. You poke a bear like EA at your peril, and clearly they ran out of patience fielding Langdell's threats over his "rights" to the word "edge" in regards to Mirror's Edge and the forthcoming Mirror's Edge 2.
Educated commentators have known that there was something fishy about Langdell's trademarks, and how he obtained many of them, for some time. Indeed, EA's brief makes very interesting reading from start to finish on this very point. There are substantial discrepancies that go right to the heart of how Edge won some of their trademarks, and EA's lawyers clearly intend to drive a train right through them.
Unfortunately, Tim Langdell has nobody to blame but himself. Judging from many different sources of information he is not a nice person to deal with and has issues paying his bills, explaining why he decided to skip the UK for the US after a British court ordered him to pay two former employees money they were owed by him.
By all accounts Edge Games is a one-person operation, with that one person being Tim Langdell himself. How exactly he is intending to fund a decent legal team, especially when he is facing EA's high-powered attorneys, is anyone's guess.
EA's conversion from villain to hero is almost achieved. If they can manage to take down Tim Langdell once and for all then I believe it will be complete.
Psycho delusional egotistical weasel business con artists like this need to be born with a self destruct feature. The problem gets serious when they snake their way into positions of authority as a device to further convince themselves that they aren't completely worthless. Certainly makes it easier for them to lie straight to people's faces when they can point at shiny titles to inflate their supposed intelligence.
Things don't hit critical mass until they have the slightest idea how to wave the law around to dick people over legally.
It's one thing for a faceless corporation to defend reasonable patents/trademarks due to legal obligation, but it's another for an individual to register generic trademarks so they can hunt and take down easy prey.
Yes, this can partially be blamed on the USPTO and the whole system in general for being imperfect, but this is not a story of an innocent guy defending himself against a world who keeps trying to use his word in games related media. This is a story of a total prick who does this kind of thing to satisfy his lifestyle and mistakenly thinks within his bubble that he is the good guy.
If they manage to get his trademarks revoked it would be excellent on the level of disbarring you know who.
@Swirlbeard: Originally, it *did* have his face as the image. A horribly contorted and stretched version (Thin images make the frontpage unhappy), but his face nonetheless (Cue "Oh wait, that's not horribly contorted and stretched, that's his real face!" joke)
Was swapped over to the Mirror's Edge picture a few minutes afterwards.
@Paradice: Not in the sense that if I decided to make a computer, and sell it with the "apple" logo on it.
I would object, however, if I decided to make a game called Apple Tree, and then got sued because it has the word "apple" in it even though it clearly has nothing to do with the company.
EA doing something that not only I approve of but is benificial to people? Say it isn't so! While I have no doubt EA is mostly doing this for themselves and are probably saying this statement to gain public support, they have good news coming their way. They got it; atleast from me. I support EA 1000% and hope they crush this little worm under the weight of a thousand lawyers. I've heard a variety of stories of Langdell being the so called "bully" he's claiming EA to be, so it's nice to see abit of karma come around in his direction. It's like an episode of "My Name is Earl," only with people I don't like.
Langdell is very much a bully, and has been ripping off legitimate developers for years.
There's even cases where, back in the day, people submitted C64 games to Edge / Softek for appraisal and then the next thing they know Langdell has duplicated and is selling their game on the shelves with no approval from the developer, no contract, no licensing or anything!
Langdell is a crook, a con-man, a liar, a perjuror and, let's face it, a cunt.
We have been going over interesting issues revolving around copyright and trademark laws in one of my classes at school (called Legal Issues in Technology), and the trend is that the law is usually bent in favor of promoting creativity. I hope that is the case here.
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I plan to trademark the use of the English Language in game titling.
"You there! Your game has an English title! GIVE ME MONEY!"
@ColinStein: That's the way it *was* going with Langdell active - he claimed that every use of the word Edge in a game title went against his trademark as he owns a company called Edge.
EA's trying to prevent it happening, presumably so they can market Mirror's Edge 2 without harrassment. (I can't remember if he gave them any beef over the original Mirror's Edge, but there's certainly many others he's sued for similar things)
@Notoriety: I dunno. Delayed enemies can be very effective in a FFA. Especially if you let them do most of the work... then finish them when they are the only one left.
Either that or escape the arena with them in a stolen jeep, torching it as you leave.
I hope Langdell gets what's coming. He's like the Michael Moore of the game world: A fat, loud-mouth idiot who pretends to be a champion of the little guy while lining his pockets and acting like a disingenuous, selfish douchebag.
@tiberseptim: Can we keep irrelevant comparisons to Moore off here. It demoralizes the conversation and feels more in line with silly talking points from (as you would articulate) "fat, loud-mouthed idiots" from Fox News. :)
I am still PO'd about EA's shameless ripoff of the original Edge Games (TM) production, "Mirrors by Edge (TM)". If EA had bothered to simply Google "Edge Games (TM)", enter their site, navigate to their 'games' section, and click a bunch of times to get to the end of their stack of search-engine-evading JPEGs with text in them, they would see that Mirrors (TM), apparently a video game, is coming soon!
All I can say is that if this is how langdell responds to the use of the word "edge", I don't even want to KNOW how god is going to react with what Microsoft has been doing with halo the last eight years.
IT'S A FUCKING WORD. How the hell can you put a blanket trademark on a word? Edge is a word that existed before Langdell ever came into the picture.
My brain is exploding, not only at the concept of putting a patent on Edge, but also for Langdell's determination in suing everybody who uses Edge. Why the hell is it so important to him? Would it really devalue his product?
And again--How the hell can you trademark an English word? ... *sigh* ...
09/30/09
Educated commentators have known that there was something fishy about Langdell's trademarks, and how he obtained many of them, for some time. Indeed, EA's brief makes very interesting reading from start to finish on this very point. There are substantial discrepancies that go right to the heart of how Edge won some of their trademarks, and EA's lawyers clearly intend to drive a train right through them.
Unfortunately, Tim Langdell has nobody to blame but himself. Judging from many different sources of information he is not a nice person to deal with and has issues paying his bills, explaining why he decided to skip the UK for the US after a British court ordered him to pay two former employees money they were owed by him.
By all accounts Edge Games is a one-person operation, with that one person being Tim Langdell himself. How exactly he is intending to fund a decent legal team, especially when he is facing EA's high-powered attorneys, is anyone's guess.
EA's conversion from villain to hero is almost achieved. If they can manage to take down Tim Langdell once and for all then I believe it will be complete.
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09/30/09
Things don't hit critical mass until they have the slightest idea how to wave the law around to dick people over legally.
It's one thing for a faceless corporation to defend reasonable patents/trademarks due to legal obligation, but it's another for an individual to register generic trademarks so they can hunt and take down easy prey.
Yes, this can partially be blamed on the USPTO and the whole system in general for being imperfect, but this is not a story of an innocent guy defending himself against a world who keeps trying to use his word in games related media. This is a story of a total prick who does this kind of thing to satisfy his lifestyle and mistakenly thinks within his bubble that he is the good guy.
If they manage to get his trademarks revoked it would be excellent on the level of disbarring you know who.
09/30/09
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Was swapped over to the Mirror's Edge picture a few minutes afterwards.
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I would object, however, if I decided to make a game called Apple Tree, and then got sued because it has the word "apple" in it even though it clearly has nothing to do with the company.
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Langdell is very much a bully, and has been ripping off legitimate developers for years.
There's even cases where, back in the day, people submitted C64 games to Edge / Softek for appraisal and then the next thing they know Langdell has duplicated and is selling their game on the shelves with no approval from the developer, no contract, no licensing or anything!
Langdell is a crook, a con-man, a liar, a perjuror and, let's face it, a cunt.
09/29/09
09/29/09
The
For
2
3
War
Wars
Grand
Life
By trademarking those words, you'll be king of the game industry.
In other news, Langdell should be trademarked by EA, so they can make a shooting gun with him as a target. It's trademarked!
09/30/09
I plan to trademark the use of the English Language in game titling.
"You there! Your game has an English title! GIVE ME MONEY!"
09/29/09
09/30/09
EA's trying to prevent it happening, presumably so they can market Mirror's Edge 2 without harrassment. (I can't remember if he gave them any beef over the original Mirror's Edge, but there's certainly many others he's sued for similar things)
09/29/09
I'm with ya' EA, I'm with ya'!
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Either that or escape the arena with them in a stolen jeep, torching it as you leave.
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ZING!
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[www.langdellbrown.com]
09/29/09
My brain is exploding, not only at the concept of putting a patent on Edge, but also for Langdell's determination in suing everybody who uses Edge. Why the hell is it so important to him? Would it really devalue his product?
And again--How the hell can you trademark an English word? ... *sigh* ...
09/29/09