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LanciePants
12/31/08

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I've been saying it on message boards for awhile now. The REAL winner in the console war is IBM. Their processor power the Wii, Playstation3 and Xbox 360. Any of the three consoles sold makes IBM money.
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ca$h is Mr. Happy
12/31/08

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I hate to say it, but that's what Sony gets for shutting down its internal chip design division in favor of outsourcing.

The PS2 had a great CPU and GPU (for when they were designed in the late '90s) and Sony threw all those talented people out on their asses and went to IBM and Toshiba instead. No sympathy.
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Foxstar is in love with Kotaku's two Brians.
12/31/08

@ca$h:If Sony hadn't done that, they would likely be even more in the red. Running those plants was costing them millions on millions of dollars and the EE was a bitch to program for to boot up till the 2nd/3rd gen games finally hit the market.

As big as Sony is, running your own chip plants even for something as big as the Playstation brand, it's typically not a good idea. Of course, seeing how the cost of Cell is strangling price drops AND a bitch to program for, I'm starting to think they should have just made the damn thing themselves.
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Thai Tea
12/31/08

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I swear the WSJ and Kotaku conspire to put sony out of business. Why do you keep spreading these propagandas. If the 360 borrowed anything from the ps3...why does it RROD like hell and the ps3 not as much? Let's face it...the 360 is a cut and paste machine where the ps3 was designed properly.
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Foxstar is in love with Kotaku's two Brians.
12/31/08

@Thai Tea:You Facebook people are setting the bar for stupid, rabid posting even lower then your bastard spawn over at GameFAQ's. Good job. Now never post again.
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Chalkdust
12/31/08

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In 2003, IBM's Adam Bennett showed Microsoft specs for the still-in-development Cell core.

Wow, maybe I don't know enough about how the business relationship between Sony and IBM worked, but that seems extremely shady. I wonder when Sony found out about this mess.

Wouldn't you want a business partner to let you know if they decide to work with one of your close competitors? Hopefully Sony learns from this and doesn't agree to allow IBM, or whoever, to sell off the plans to other companies, especially competitors... I guess it just didn't occur to them that Microsoft would go about it this way, or that IBM would see nothing wrong with showing the Cell plans to them.

Have to play your cards more closely to the vest Sony, especially when you have the target on your back.
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AncientUnknown1
12/31/08

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I didn't know IBM worked on the cell processor. I always thought the cell processor was a wholly Japanese invention.
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Gyaruson
12/31/08

@AncientUnknown1:

Sony, Toshiba and IBM co-labored and built the Cell.
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FedericoCypselus
12/31/08

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The book is actually already for sale at bookstores. The publishing date isn't hard so stores that get it in can sell it immediately, like the one i work at :)
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Jim Reilly
12/31/08

@FedericoCypselus: Amazon IS my bookstore
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okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
12/31/08

@Jim Reilly: ...when things you ordered actually make it to you >_>
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Gyaruson
12/31/08

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"Mr. Shippy says that he felt "contaminated" as he sat down with the Microsoft engineers, helping them to sketch out their architectural requirements with lessons learned from his earlier work on Playstation."

That is sneaky-and-a-half. How can one company take two separate contracts from competing companies without giving one (or both!) the advanced warning? That seems pretty sketchy if you ask me. Playing both sides of the field is bad business. I shall definitely be picking this one up.
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muu
12/31/08

@Gyaruson: Not a problem as long as they weren't going beyond what their contracts allowed them to do. Sounds like just another company dealing with multiple clients at the same time (and utilizing some knowledge attained from the previous jobs), just that the circumstances ended up being a little more interesting.
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Gyaruson
12/31/08

@muu:

I know it's just business to contract out competing companies, but to have the same people working on both projects seems like a conflict of interest.
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somnambulance
12/31/08

@Gyaruson: When people ask "who won the console war?"...

The answer is IBM!!!

IBM hasn't been forced to sell at a loss, and they're earning from every console sold.
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xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx
12/31/08

@AtomikB: They're not in the console war so much as contributors to it though. Like allies who give loans. The real winner will be Nintendozilla. Not only did they turn around there last place position but they also managed to get a whole new audience while bringing another unique gaming experience which will have them acknowledged as the innovators of gaming. IBM is a back door profiteer of the war but Nintendo is the glory taking, victor as it would seem so far.
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Gyaruson
12/31/08

@xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx:

I think he just meant that IBM makes chips for all three systems
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jwoods3
12/31/08

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Why, on the cover, does the "i" have emphasis? Is it for IBM?
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LllusionX Mailed the Fission
12/31/08

@jwoods3: maybe apple is making an I-Xbox and an I-playstation.

....^beat me to it....:(
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