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Showmeyomoves!
03:16 AM

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Imagine charging your beam katana using Natal.

And then your mom walks in...
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N●Gage Croal
11/19/09

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It may be high definition... but something about it I don't like. I can't quite put my finger on it, but something about it looks... worse... than the original version.

Well, I don't care about graphics, anyways. If the new content proves worthwhile, I may buy it. I love No More Heroes... Now I wonder if I should get PS3 or 360...
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flanker22
11/19/09

@N●Gage Croal: ...
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N●Gage Croal
11/19/09

@flanker22:
Thank you for an insightful reply!
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Fieldy
11/19/09

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At first Kotaku reported this as a spin-off and I was a bit disappointed because I keep on hearing how great these games are, yet I know I would have difficulty getting into it if I don't start with the first one.

Hearing it's a port of the original definitely makes me excited about it :D
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mintycrys is HOT for Bayonetta
11/19/09

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Achievements would be nice. It means I could just stop my bitter mode runthough right now and wait for this one to come out so I'd have something to show for 1000 + hits on that assclown Henry. I know the game well enough at this point to not bat an eyelash at anything they can throw at me, but I do wonder...

- How they will reassign the attacking setup which previously had the Wiimote sensing high/low stance for physical attacks.

- How they will rejigger the two different kinds of darkstep and the guard cancelling mechanic, most of which required Wiimote-nunchuk movement (and which most people weren't aware even existed!)

- If minigames will just require button pressing. I mean, there's nothing quite like scooping up venomous scorpions with motion controls, right?

I assume, however, that deathblows and grapples will be pulled off with analog stick directions. That seems logical. I'm interested in seeing how this plays out. The control scheme could make or break this release.
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UltimatePancakeSensation
11/19/09

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I'll buy this just so I don't have to turn on my Wii to play it. Also, I'm not seeing any additionally scantness to the clad of the womens...which is fine by me, since I like the game for being stylish, not being full of whores.
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Sparkle Biscuit
11/19/09

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I think the Wii version to be the superior one (I think the game looked the way it did halfway on purpose, or it at least used that to its advantage) but if this means more people can experience the joy that is NMH, then I'm all for it.
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ph15h
11/19/09

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Looks a lot prettier. Guess I'll bite if it comes stateside. I mean... I already own it on the Wii, but an HD PS3 version with the extra "features" will be well worth the purchase... let's just hope the manual is redone into the style Japanese style of comic book instructions rather than the bland and boring Ubisoft textful manual released here. =/

"Boobie-soft"? Sounds appropriate for the new cleavage mode.
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GohanGVO
11/19/09

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It seems that the cel-shading has been toned down in places just like in NMH2. In other shots, though, it looks the devs went overboard with it.

Anyway, I sure hope that the issues with textures failing to load quick enough, gigantic bounding-boxes around vehicles and the framerate* are polished up in this version.

* (Am I the only one who kinda likes when the framerate slows down during an especially frantic moment? It's as if the world is slowing down to marvel at my destructive capabilities.)
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Wizard
11/19/09

@GohanGVO: It was a lot of fun when there was dramatic slowdown at 6 or 7 guys exploding due to a finisher.

Felt kind of like an action movie.

(Edited to add the dramatic. Because fuck yes it was dramatic.)
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sentroshi
11/19/09

@GohanGVO: No, you aren't. In some real difficult games I've played with my brothers, when the framerate slowed down during a frantic moment, it saved our butts and it let our reflexes do the rest.
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spiderweb1986
11/19/09

@GohanGVO: I actually kind of miss the slowdown you used to get in 8-bit and 16-bit games. Depending on the game, it either made things easier, or made things awesome.
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Suzaku
11/19/09

@GohanGVO: They didn't "overdo" anything, it's just the lighting. The shadows in NMH are just stark and black, so when there's more contrast between lights and darks, it's more noticeable.

It's not really cel-shading, exactly.
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jimmuhpage
11/19/09

@GohanGVO: Hmm, sometimes it makes the game easier if it's slow but still smooth. When it gets choppy though, you get to Goldeneye and Perfect Dark on the N64 levels :(

It's why I'm excited for PDXBLA. I really hope it gets a good online community going.
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GohanGVO
11/19/09

@Suzaku: Thanks for the information. I think I was thrown off by the 'simple' shadows of the original game compared to the 'complex' ones here. It does not necessarily look bad, just different.
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Save me
11/19/09

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For those that want to import the game from Japan, be warned that the PS3 copy is censored while the 360 isnt.

[www.siliconera.com]
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Curse lily
11/19/09

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"less clothing on the female characters"

I'm already excited for this game, there's no need for more hyping ^_^
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mr_godot
11/19/09

@Curse lily: Is it bad that I was "meh" about looking at the screenshots until I read that line, upon which I began hunting through them?
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Curse lily
11/19/09

@mr_godot: I'm guilty if it is ^_^
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spiderweb1986
11/19/09

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This game was made for the Wiimote - ignoring the lousy Star Wars games, it's the closest thing to the "lightsaber game" we all dreamed about when the Wii was first announced. I'm not sure how it will play without it - we might just end up with a stylish but empty third person brawler that won't sell well and will lead people to think poorly of what really is one of the best games on the Wii.

Please don't botch this.
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Taggart6: I don't always drink beer, but when I do...
11/19/09

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Pretty but kinda pointless if they don't fix the bigger issues like generic enemy fights, limited city design, and boring money jobs.

The game is really all about the boss fights and trying to get to the next one as quickly as possible.
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resonance462
11/19/09

@Taggart6: I don't always drink beer, but when I do...: I couldn't agree more. I was incredibly disappointed by this game and the numerous issues with it's structure, not to mention the bugs.
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Taggart6: I don't always drink beer, but when I do...
11/19/09

@resonance462: The game had promise but I think it was greatly limited by the Wii's hardware and the lack of variety.

#speakup
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YeahVeryeah
11/19/09

@Taggart6: I don't always drink beer, but when I do...: The Wii's limits were hardly tapped with this game _
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Taggart6: I don't always drink beer, but when I do...
11/19/09

@YeahVeryeah: Goichi Suda flat out said that the Wii Hardware limited how much they originally wanted to do with the city exploration portion of the game. Certain things had to be taken out to preserve the frame rate of in game driving which was still iffy at times.

#speakup
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NicolasCage
11/19/09

@Taggart6: I don't always drink beer, but when I do...: The PS2 could handle San Andreas. The Wii could handle something that looks twice as good as what was in NMH. Suda is just making excuses for what is the poorest implementation of a large-scale environment in the history of videogames.
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Taggart6: I don't always drink beer, but when I do...
11/19/09

@NicolasCage: We can guess all we want but I'm merely relying what was said and is fact.

I'm sure with more time and a bigger team they could have optimized the engine to run better, but that's just a guess.
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resonance462
11/19/09

@Taggart6: I don't always drink beer, but when I do...: I disagree. I think a paltry budget and a concern with style over gameplay made up the bulk of the issues.

#speakup
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omgwtflolbbl
11/19/09

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Is there any word on how the motion control is being handled in this game? Because it was honestly one of the best things about NMH, and I'm not sure if a graphics improvement would really be worth losing those mechanics.
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James Henderson
11/19/09

@omgwtflolbbl: Forwards compatibility with Natal/Sony'swhateveryoucallitthisweek? I'd love to see it happen.
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Đipic
11/19/09

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To be honest, I'm hesitant to get this because there is no waggle. Seriously, if there is one game where it really adds to the experience (and isn't called Super Mario Galaxy or WiiSports), it would be this game. Thrusting the Wiimote down to slash a dude clear in half was fun as hell. It was one of the things that kept the game fun and fresh; without it... I just don't know if it can stand up to and be as satisfying as the original.
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the7k
11/19/09

@Đipic: Well, perhaps they could fix some of the problems with the game when they redo it for the PS3/360.

Giving the gameplay more depth, having interesting jobs to do (or none at all), and making the open-world a lot more detailed could end up making up for the lack of motion control. Whether they'll actually go through with this, I don't know.

If they just took out all the tedious jobs you have to do, it'd be good enough for me. Much like Alien Soldier and Red Earth/Warzards, this game is all about the boss fights - but neither of those games made you play a bunch of mini-games before you could tackle the next boss.

I think the best thing this game did that can't be recreated on another console is using the Wii Remote as a mobile phone. I love to see this sort of out-of-the-box thinking, where the game world exists beyond the TV screen.
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CockroachMan
11/19/09

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Looks pretty much the same but with a better lighting and textures.

But the original game has some of the best uses for the Wii remote the console has. The mini-games, the wrestling moves and the phone calls coming from the speaker of the Wiimote will be missed. Don't think that better graphics can compensate that.
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Monty
11/19/09

@CockroachMan: That's what I'm concerned about. All the praise I'd heard about the game was based on the fact that the Wiimote actually enhanced the gameplay.

I hope it doesn't become a generic third person action game once the Wii controls get extracted...
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Đipic
11/19/09

@CockroachMan: Exactly how I feel. :S

I'm throwing this in the "not sure if want" pile for now.
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CockroachMan
11/19/09

@Monty: Generic? Definetly not.. the game's story, art style, characters and dialogues are all unique. Suda51 is a genius! The game will still be good.. but without the Wii controls it will lose a lot of it's charm.
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