What does this mean for "The Saboteur"? I'm assuming their previous statement of the franchises "living on" means it's not been killed yet but have they mentioned anything about it in this kerfuffle? #ea
@Erode: All this means is that they're defending their trademarks and copyrights. If they say it's dead, it makes it easier for poachers a few years down the road. If they claim it's alive, it's harder to prove abandonment. Never ever take a companies claims about its IP at face value - they're just as likely to be playing legal games. #ea
@badasscat: It could mean a number of business models but the basic tie-in between all of them is the internet.
So, it could mean ...
1. Free-to-play and supported by microtransactions.
2. An MMO or similar "always-online" game.
3. Heavily tied into DLC expansions packs and general content.
And so on.
I think C&C is going to head in the direction of that second option. A persistent online 'world' that has players choosing factions that influence how and where you can fight.
However, I am not sure how to monetize that beyond a subscription fee. Would consumers want that? Perhaps a combination of one and two could work?
(Did C&C3 do something like this? Perhaps I am thinking of another game, but I could have sworn it did ...) #ea
@GohanGVO: I was making a point, and you illustrated it, which is that nobody knows what the hell this jargon-esque term "digital model" means. "It has something to do with the internet!" is not a business model. #ea
There are many "digital models," including the ones I outlined. C&C will, apparently, make use of one, many, all or a new form in order to extend the life of the new product.
Or perhaps I am completely wrong.
Do my examples not illustrate what consists of a digital model? #ea
They have to move MoH out of WW2. I don't care how good the graphics are, how well written the story is, or how innovative some new feature is. I never want to see another Garand or MP40 again. #ea
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I'm very interested in seeing some concrete stuff on the new Medal of Honour. With any luck, they'll go the way of Dice and keep dedicated server support for PC and hopefully provide enough guns and gear to make any FPS fan salivate profusely. #ea
@-MasterDex-: If Infinity Ward were making it, I'm sure that they would put in the IR tracking, but would remove any need for it as they would have already taken the 'lean' function out of it. #ea
@kearneybobs: Or a couple of months before release, they would say it's supported then 3 weeks before the release say that they removed it in favour of making the head movement automatic since people were complaining about how hard it was to aim for themselves. #ea
@-MasterDex-: For sure, for me, my first 3 games i played on my AMD 700Mhz athlon were Unreal1, RtCW, and MoH Allied Assualt. Airborne had some cool features, but it lacked heavily in others, and my buddy was even talking down the games graphics constantly, because the effects weren;t what they could of been. Here's to hoping that they get thier act together and put together one good release that will bring back the respect that the franchise once held #ea
Airborne wasn't the greatest FPS I've ever played but it had some good ideas.
I loved the way the sniper riffle worked for instance. Pull the trigger quickly to shoot. Pull the trigger in slowly to hold your breath, the more you pulled the shallower your breathing. At any point during breath control you could quickly pull the trigger to shoot. I thought that was pretty clever. #medalofhonor
This new Medal of Honour is coming at a prime time (at least on PC), if they support dedicated servers and create a game that can truly rival MW head-2-head, EA will be very successful. EA knows what they're doing and their quote "It's a new take on the modern warfare idea — and will really help give the series the kick up the arse it needs." will hopefully come true because it does need a kick up the arse.
Damn! Why do I feel so dirty! I seem to be loving EA these days, not just 'not hating' but loving! WTF is wrong with this world?!
@Cake Tank!: You know what I find hilarious, all the things that the community called are already becoming an issue. There's hacks already and no admins to kick them and VAC uses a delayed ban system and the lag is terrible. #medalofhonor
@-MasterDex-: People were seriously ignorant or lying to themselves if they thought iwnet was going to stop hackers. People make the best judgments. A good clan with good admins create an awesome community where hackers, don't even exist.
Even L4D gave power to the players. We were losing in a versus match. I noticed a guy was running like he was no clipping. I said lets kick him because I'd rather lose fair than cheat to win. Everyone agreed and we kicked him.
Anyway I'm going to stop myself here, nothing is going to change what they've decided. Nothing I say, no suggestions, nothing will change it. I'm just not going to buy it. I guess MW was my last IW game. #medalofhonor
@Cake Tank!: I imagine it's one of the extreme examples of how bad lag can get but at the same time, I would never have that problem if our clan had a dedicated server to play on.
@-MasterDex-: It's pretty sad if the PC version constantly has lag that bad. I played it for about 3 hours on the Xbox yesterday and had some minor lag in one or two games. #medalofhonor
what about those history channel american civil war games? never played them because the thought bores me to tears, but if im not mistaken.. its "medal of honor/call of duty" set in the civil war era. #medalofhonor
I can't verify that it was the first FPS, but I do want to point out that the team that worked on Medal of Honor: Allied Assault (the best MoH of the series) is now Infinity Ward. Infinty Ward then went on to make Call of Duty for the PC, capitalizing on the wide popularity of MoHAA. It's pretty sad that MoHAA and the original award winning CoD is what made IW what it is today, yet they've given PC the shaft now.
It's somewhat fitting that EA is now trying to capitalize on the popularity of the Modern Warfare genre with their own take on it. I for one hope that they are able to oust the CoD series like the CoD series did to them in the WWII genre.
@Fumette: Didn't know about that.. and that's good to know cause MoHAA is by far my favorite WWII game, and one of my favorite FPSs out there. #medalofhonor
....Great, now we're going to be overrun by Modern Warfare Shooters till we're fed up. What will be next? Brothers in Arms: Modern Warfare anyone? At least with Sci-Fi ones, they will most likely be entirely different weapons and enemies at least, since, well, no one knows what the future of war holds.... Or Do They?
Then the drones rise and revolt after someone introduces the concept of mortality and self preservation into their programs and we go to war against the drones.....on the moons of Jupiter. #medalofhonor
Screw the Civil War, we need some Rough Riders up in here.
Adding on, if Medal of Honor does take on a modern combat scenario I hope it slides more towards realism rather than completely crazy over the top wtfery. Leave that to Bad Company for camp and craze in a blaze of glory kind of thing.
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@all: Thanks for the replies. I'm just glad it hasn't been canceled; It looks really promising. #ea
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So, it could mean ...
1. Free-to-play and supported by microtransactions.
2. An MMO or similar "always-online" game.
3. Heavily tied into DLC expansions packs and general content.
And so on.
I think C&C is going to head in the direction of that second option. A persistent online 'world' that has players choosing factions that influence how and where you can fight.
However, I am not sure how to monetize that beyond a subscription fee. Would consumers want that? Perhaps a combination of one and two could work?
(Did C&C3 do something like this? Perhaps I am thinking of another game, but I could have sworn it did ...) #ea
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A WoW subscription is a digital model.
Maple Story is a digital model.
There are many "digital models," including the ones I outlined. C&C will, apparently, make use of one, many, all or a new form in order to extend the life of the new product.
Or perhaps I am completely wrong.
Do my examples not illustrate what consists of a digital model? #ea
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And more then likely it comes down to one simple thing: He's an alien.
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Maybe "werewolf". #ea
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@CowPieSoup: Only Peter Molyneux can pull a Peter Molyneux. #ea
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I loved the way the sniper riffle worked for instance. Pull the trigger quickly to shoot. Pull the trigger in slowly to hold your breath, the more you pulled the shallower your breathing. At any point during breath control you could quickly pull the trigger to shoot. I thought that was pretty clever. #medalofhonor
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Damn! Why do I feel so dirty! I seem to be loving EA these days, not just 'not hating' but loving! WTF is wrong with this world?!
...oh yeah, Activision. #medalofhonor
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@Cake Tank!: You know what I find hilarious, all the things that the community called are already becoming an issue. There's hacks already and no admins to kick them and VAC uses a delayed ban system and the lag is terrible. #medalofhonor
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Even L4D gave power to the players. We were losing in a versus match. I noticed a guy was running like he was no clipping. I said lets kick him because I'd rather lose fair than cheat to win. Everyone agreed and we kicked him.
Anyway I'm going to stop myself here, nothing is going to change what they've decided. Nothing I say, no suggestions, nothing will change it. I'm just not going to buy it. I guess MW was my last IW game. #medalofhonor
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Like, the closest I've had was with Halo 3, but even then, it was at least playable. #medalofhonor
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Wasn't MoH the first WWII FPS? At least it was the first that I played.. Come on EA, you can do better than that! #medalofhonor
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I can't verify that it was the first FPS, but I do want to point out that the team that worked on Medal of Honor: Allied Assault (the best MoH of the series) is now Infinity Ward. Infinty Ward then went on to make Call of Duty for the PC, capitalizing on the wide popularity of MoHAA. It's pretty sad that MoHAA and the original award winning CoD is what made IW what it is today, yet they've given PC the shaft now.
It's somewhat fitting that EA is now trying to capitalize on the popularity of the Modern Warfare genre with their own take on it. I for one hope that they are able to oust the CoD series like the CoD series did to them in the WWII genre.
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year later
Medal of Honour:Future Warfare
couple years later
Call of Duty: Space Warfare
year later
Halo:Gettysburg
(fuck you guys, your encroaching on my territory) #medalofhonor
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I DID NOT SEE THAT ONE COMING!!!!1111
....Great, now we're going to be overrun by Modern Warfare Shooters till we're fed up. What will be next? Brothers in Arms: Modern Warfare anyone? At least with Sci-Fi ones, they will most likely be entirely different weapons and enemies at least, since, well, no one knows what the future of war holds.... Or Do They?
.... What do you think, Mikuru?
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Then the drones rise and revolt after someone introduces the concept of mortality and self preservation into their programs and we go to war against the drones.....on the moons of Jupiter. #medalofhonor
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I'm Going to Start A BunnyGirl Army! Who Will Start Their Own BunnyGirl Army For Mine To Fight? #medalofhonor
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Adding on, if Medal of Honor does take on a modern combat scenario I hope it slides more towards realism rather than completely crazy over the top wtfery. Leave that to Bad Company for camp and craze in a blaze of glory kind of thing.