if carnage isnt another spidey-clone somehow, thatd be cool. its just...theyve already done panther, cable (ive yet to play as him, though!) and psylocke prior, so this still feels lazy.
i actually bout the DLC for MUA1 and man, Doom was about the only original one, everyone else just felt like a reskinning, basically. meh. 2 didnt feel like more than a rental for me, so id have to see someone new like Ares, Sentry, Punisher etc to revisit it, personally. shame. #marvelultimatealliance2
@TheIrishNinja: Sadly though if they brought in Punisher it would just be a sort of reskin of DP. I want X-23 but she would simply be a Wolverine clone. Part of the problem is for a game all about these fusion moves they are basically all the same with slight differences. MUA2 just seemed really rushed. #marvelultimatealliance2
I don't know how true this is but someone sent me a link of this video showing magneto in the character list. The author of the article assumed that magneto was going to be in the dlc pack. This was posted on 10/15/09 though. Meh just thought I would post it if no one saw it yet. It is not concrete evidence or anything, it just shows that Magneto will eventually be in the game.
See below, and likely above for comments from more gamers who feel entitle to free DLC and neglect to even remember that having DLC as an OPTION is nice. You don't have to buy something you don't want people. You paid for the full game knowing what was in it - it doesn't say on the box "free DLC for more characters for the rest of eternity." Be glad you have the option. #marvelultimatealliance2
@Izod517: Have you played the game? New characters aren't gonna add anything new. The game feels the same no matter who you use #marvelultimatealliance2
@Doozerhunter: Of course I have. I'm a comic book fan so I'll gladly pay for it, but I won't have any notions that it's anything more than a few character reskins. I never said anything about it ADDING to the game. I said don't whine about it or the price - buy it or don't. You're not entitled to free content. You only paid for whats on the disc. Although I do think they should fix the bugs first and foremost. You obviously missed my point entirely. #marvelultimatealliance2
I still think they should've given us more of the characters they assholishly made exclusive to the Wii and PS2 versions, like Sentry and She Hulk. Carnage sucks, and he has no reason to be in this game.
@Archaotic: I kind of hate how a lot of the stuff (characters mainly) from the comics was thrown out the window for the game. Hulk being there is an obvious one (Planet Hulk & World War Hulk) and any mutant (X-Men remained neutral after having the mutant population being reduced to ~200).
@SlashZaku: MUA2's playable roster is PURELY a popularity contest. Simple as that. They didn't care about anything but a roster of easily marketed characters, regardless of whether or not they had anything to do with Civil War. #marvelultimatealliance2
@Archaotic: That I could see from the get-go. The general public will buy it because all the characters they know (Wolvie, Hulk, Cap, Iron Man, etc.) are there.
I was on their site before release and I saw no mention of Thor being a clone either in the game. In the GS commercial, Hulk was on Iron Man's side which irked me too. But then again, stuff like this (disregarding the source material) is expected with adaptations of anything outside the original studio/company (see movie adaptations for starters). #marvelultimatealliance2
I left the entertainment business for the video game industry almost tens years ago. Seeing this gives me a small amount of validation, but quite seriously, hollywood has sucked for years and deserves to be be taken down a notch by interactive media.
I've always thought Stan Lee was a really cool guy, but just about 10 seconds ago it was like a light bulb went off in my head and I realized he is one of my personal heroes. If anyone deserves a geeks respect, it is this man.
hrm. This is something that bothers me actually. Like would Stephen Spielberg go into games? Dante? Poe? If alive now how many of those artists would actually choose Video Games as their medium of expression.
Are games officially considered art yet? I sat down with a coder once and he argued that video games are not art. I swear I wanted to punch his stupid face.
@anglon: Spielberg has already gone into games... sorta. There's a "Director's Chair" game out there with his name. And I think he had a stake in Dreamworks Interactive, too.
Stan Lee gave his creations memorable titles, colors, meaning and depth, marketing them and making them, concepts bound by time, into something timeless. To take something from a state of just existing and turning it into something deeply loved - that does not come by accident or greed, but with devotion and a respect for the art and mankind.
Simply put, video games are today's comic books. Visually-centric, relatively simple media - in terms of presentation and required user skill - allowing for broad accessibility and enjoyment. As I type this, my roommate and a friend of ours are playing Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 on the XBOX 360 in our living room and it's getting across the same story as the Civil War series did.
As for the shortcomings of printed media, time restraints and storage space.. Well, that is all that is. Shortcomings that are manipulated into manipulating the human need for instant gratification - toying with feelings you wouldn't experience if everything in the universe flowed with no pause.
... Okay, okay. I actually have no idea what I'm talking about. I don't follow comic books like my roommate does (fanatic), nor do I care what you nerds think about some old guy's opinion about the national pass time of an entire generation of virgins. You're all gay. STFU.
@Astronus: I'm sorry. That was uncalled for. I just wanted a funny way to end it. The first two comments were *way* too serious for my taste. Thought I'd thrown in a quick plot twist of my own, you know? This hedgehog is kind of like that, but seriously, it is unlike me to "curse" or name-call, even on the internets.
You'll have to forgive a bored internet junkie. I was serious about most of the stuff I said until the ending, though, if it makes any difference.
One thing bugs me more than anything else about Stan Lee: His full name is also his first name had his first name not been shortened. That annoys me beyond reason, no matter how much I like the guy.
(And yes, I know that his real name is Stan Lieber. That doesn't change anything.)
He only adopted the pseudonym Stan Lee when he started writing comic books, because he actually aspired to be a novelist. Since comics were seen as pulp at the time (as they still are), he didn't want his real name to be associated with them.
I got this info from the Marvel Chronicle, by the way. Great read if you're interested in the history of Marvel and Timely Comics.
hopefully this will inspire good comic book writers to get involved in game making. for many games, the mechanics are good and graphics are great but characters and story are a little goofy, cheezy etc...
@TT:
Lol, and there aren't goofy and cheezy comic books characters and stories? I'm reading one right now (apart of reading almost every single one that there is, since I research them and games for development and fun.) and 90% of comic books and games have dumb teen children as target consumers.
A good game can surely come from any kind of person, but I think that "good comic book writers" would make me excited about a game made by them the same way that a game made by.. heck, anyone else, from you to someone at a grocery store.
It's like getting excited about a Sean Connery's awesome recipes of fried chicken (heck I don't know if he's into chicken cooking, maybe he does, maybe he doesn't).
By experience most comic fans are wary of any cross media adaptations of their beloved characters and series. Especially with video games.
Having a respected writer overseeing at least the story of a game goes a long way towards gaining support and interest from the fanbase from the beginning of the game.
I for one was extremely optimistic about Batman: Arkham Asylum when I found out that Paul Dini would be the writer/consulatant for the project.
And it payed off at the end with the final product imo.
He would then come up with rudimentary ideas that were based on simplistic arch-types that have been used by a plethora of writers throughout history. Any innovative ideas or game mechanics created by his supporting team would be jumped on by Stan "The Man" and he would then use his greatest story telling techniques to make it seem he was responsible for them.
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i actually bout the DLC for MUA1 and man, Doom was about the only original one, everyone else just felt like a reskinning, basically. meh. 2 didnt feel like more than a rental for me, so id have to see someone new like Ares, Sentry, Punisher etc to revisit it, personally. shame. #marvelultimatealliance2
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[www.co-optimus.com] #marvelultimatealliance2
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Got nothin' against Cable, Black Panther or Psylocke though. #marvelultimatealliance2
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I was on their site before release and I saw no mention of Thor being a clone either in the game. In the GS commercial, Hulk was on Iron Man's side which irked me too. But then again, stuff like this (disregarding the source material) is expected with adaptations of anything outside the original studio/company (see movie adaptations for starters). #marvelultimatealliance2
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Hypothetical.
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Are games officially considered art yet? I sat down with a coder once and he argued that video games are not art. I swear I wanted to punch his stupid face.
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@Kitsune Sniper: Boom Blox.
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Oh, and The Dig.
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Could be grey hair, could be a trick of the camera, could be some Columbian flake.
It was the 70's...Nuff said.
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Simply put, video games are today's comic books. Visually-centric, relatively simple media - in terms of presentation and required user skill - allowing for broad accessibility and enjoyment. As I type this, my roommate and a friend of ours are playing Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 on the XBOX 360 in our living room and it's getting across the same story as the Civil War series did.
As for the shortcomings of printed media, time restraints and storage space.. Well, that is all that is. Shortcomings that are manipulated into manipulating the human need for instant gratification - toying with feelings you wouldn't experience if everything in the universe flowed with no pause.
... Okay, okay. I actually have no idea what I'm talking about. I don't follow comic books like my roommate does (fanatic), nor do I care what you nerds think about some old guy's opinion about the national pass time of an entire generation of virgins. You're all gay. STFU.
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You'll have to forgive a bored internet junkie. I was serious about most of the stuff I said until the ending, though, if it makes any difference.
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(And yes, I know that his real name is Stan Lieber. That doesn't change anything.)
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And Alpa Chino has NOTHING on Huge Ackman. How huge IS his Ackman, you ask? Fucking huge.
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@ShaggE wants to join the Egg Council.:
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@ShaggE wants to join the Egg Council.: Actually, his real name is Stanley Lieber (in MUA2 he actually has a cameo as "Senator Lieber").
He only adopted the pseudonym Stan Lee when he started writing comic books, because he actually aspired to be a novelist. Since comics were seen as pulp at the time (as they still are), he didn't want his real name to be associated with them.
I got this info from the Marvel Chronicle, by the way. Great read if you're interested in the history of Marvel and Timely Comics.
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Never mind... :/
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there are many many exceptions to this of course.
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Lol, and there aren't goofy and cheezy comic books characters and stories? I'm reading one right now (apart of reading almost every single one that there is, since I research them and games for development and fun.) and 90% of comic books and games have dumb teen children as target consumers.
A good game can surely come from any kind of person, but I think that "good comic book writers" would make me excited about a game made by them the same way that a game made by.. heck, anyone else, from you to someone at a grocery store.
It's like getting excited about a Sean Connery's awesome recipes of fried chicken (heck I don't know if he's into chicken cooking, maybe he does, maybe he doesn't).
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By experience most comic fans are wary of any cross media adaptations of their beloved characters and series. Especially with video games.
Having a respected writer overseeing at least the story of a game goes a long way towards gaining support and interest from the fanbase from the beginning of the game.
I for one was extremely optimistic about Batman: Arkham Asylum when I found out that Paul Dini would be the writer/consulatant for the project.
And it payed off at the end with the final product imo.
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Lol, I bet he was born with wrinkles.
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