Be it hate or trolling, I'm not sure which to call it here, I really believe people need to relax a little. Like Twik63 said, Ensemble needs to be given the benefit of a doubt. People like the visuals and early impressions of the game's control has been extremely positive. I'm not sure what's causing the negative windfall in this thread (perhaps a few rabid monkeys swinging around) but wait for the demo and play the demo before you say things like an RTS can't work on a console or this game can't be good.
@okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under): but that doesnt exactly work for every game. as we all know, halo is VERY popular, and usually, even if mostly kidding when said, people would buy anything with the word halo on it, so why all of a sudden is this halo game not seeming as popular? maybe the fans of halo miss the first person action? maybe they're saving up for the ODST expansion? Maybe gamers dont like any console RTS's? no, people loved Red Alert 3 and EndWar on consoles, so it cant be that. IMO, even though i never had a thought cross my mind over buying it, that people are actually looking at the halo wars videos each time to see if there's anything that would make them want to buy it as a console RTS, but as of now, all theyve seen is either something that's has been left out that has been in EVERY RTS before, or something that it does have that has been done before, and better. I see it as another game with a halo skin over it, so they can make more money off of halo with minimal effort.
@Lllusionx: The Headcrab was delicious!: First of all, I honestly doubt that's how "people" feel. Regardless, saying something as minimalist as "another RTS with Halo skin" is reductive and not descriptive; your whole reply reads that way. Granted, this is you're opinion but I can't help but to think you're just grasping at straws with the little information that's seeped into your psyche despite your best efforts. This demo will ultimately be on LIVE so try it if you can... if nothing else, you'll have better understanding of what makes this game such a generic game.
@okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under): Exactly. Ensemble is making the game, so I think it deserves a wait and see. It's funny seeing the negativity in this thread, but then again, you do have known fanboys like LllusionX posting. Those kind of trolls make a living going to any 360 or Halo thread and posting negative things.
@King w00t: Really? i go on EVERY 360 and Halo thread and troll? it was to my understanding that a troll would go to any thread that offends him. i speak my mind on whatever subject amuses me, whether or not you like it, doesnt pose a threat to me. i do what you call "trolling" on PS3, 360, wii, FF, halo, mario, metal gear solid, etc. but apparently your definition of trolling means stating an opinion.
@Lllusionx: The Headcrab was delicious!: You literally do go on every single Halo and 360 article and post negative things. Because you literally are a troll. A really good example of a troll, actually.
But at the end of the day, reasonable people will actually give Halo Wars a chance and very likely end up loving a great new game. And you'll still be just trolling for 360 threads to hate on. And all the while, nobody cares what you think. Ever.
I´m gonna love when all the Halo SHOOTAN lovers realize that they don´t have the brain capacity to play and appreciate an RTS, no matter the Halo theme.
Oh MLG, thinking you're a sport. At least competitive eaters have enough self-awareness to use the word "competition" and not "sport" when referring to what they do.
Anyways, I'm quite tempted to hop on over to the site to try to pick up an invite, but I'm still on the fence about the whole "rts on a console" idea. Universe at War has probably the best console-RTS control scheme I've used, but that still left much to be desired.
Get the demo one week early? I'm not really excited enough over this particular game to go to the effort of signing up, but I'd be interested to see how many new accounts get opened off the back of this.
I think I can wait a week to be disappointed beyond belief, thank you. Actually, I really don't think I can get disappointed with this game, considering I have no expectations for it what so ever.
Ouch. That's pretty mean. At least they're putting out a demo, right? That way you can try it and make sure. They could be assholes and expect you to just buy the game on blind faith.
@Taylor Browning: As do Pro-Am "point tag" Martial Arts tournaments, but I won't even go into the abomination that the North American scene has become.
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sorry but some people are so ill informed. MLG has become extremely successful over the past few years and its more than just a shitty convention. With the prize money and all the sponsors the events have become a lot of fun. Those people that comment that you have no life if you participate events are beyond retarded. This can be considered a sport if poker can be, and it takes determination and time to become good but it doesnt have to consume a persons life. Practice is necessary for anyone trying to become the best and some people find themselves being more competitive than others this does not mean they dont enjoy the game. So for those of you knocking MLG and thier players are the ones with no lives.
... So the people who sit and play games for a living have more of life than I do? I feel dead inside when I play any game for longer than a couple hours. I go outside for few minutes and realize that there is so much more to life than screaming at teammates and being a complete asshole to random people over XBLon a regular basis. I come to hate the amount of stress that comes with feeling an obligation to win a match for a rank, a petty NUMBER. Because that's what it is at the end of the day, a number.
Sorry, I'll take real life relationships, college, and family over games any day.
@TheRealOneEye: I probably would have had the same attitude a couple of years ago when I was in college. But now that I work in an office 8 hours a day, the though of exchanging those 8 hours for eight hours of playing games sounds pretty good, especially if I got to spend the time with good friends.
There's only a handful of games that really require insane skill to be good; professional. Starcraft is one of them. Having played MLG players in Gears of War and Gears of War 2, I must say I'm not impressed...beat many of them. Sadly, I've also seen many of them exploit game glitches to win and inflate their numbers. Ex. shield glitch. In addition, I've had little desire to watch people play a game I could play myself. To reiterate what I said in a post a long time ago, the only people doing this should be 12-22 year olds. The reason being: to earn money for college. I think any older and you should be asking yourself what you're doing with your life.
@Auriel: I don't know how many people I've heard say "I've beaten MLG pros before" and think that those pros are terrible for it. Plenty of people have beaten pros in casual online play, but when those pros are playing with their teammates and focused in a competition, it's almost impossible not to be impressed. It's not like every pro is out there pouring every bit of their soul into every match they play online.
@H0PLITE: I'm not so certain. Given the conditions and the practice, anyone can formulate a group strategy.
If a group of players play often along with each other, chances are that there will be a coordinated style of gameplay. Maybe that is why I find more skill apt within singular play?
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The fact that Smash Bros is one of the games is the reason why this shit needs to die. I don't give a fuck how good you think you are at that game, its not a fighting game and is beyond fucking broken. It only becomes competitive when everyone uses the same 3 or 4 characters and plays on the same fucking stage all the damn time.
This argument will likely never die considering Smash fans are some of the most delusional fanboys there are.
Its a godamn joke. Especially when the economy is this bad.
Usually when I enter the foray, I end up making long thesis' on the subject at hand. Instead, I'll be blunt and say it this way:
That's your opinion. Just like I can argue that ANY fighting game is too simple. However, that statement would make me appear delusional.
Just as your statements appears to be. You're using logical fallacies to support your arguement, and frankly, they don't hold up in any debate. At least have the decency to figure out what your talking points are before the "peanut gallery" finds you to be flamebaiting.
Just saying... You're not making much sense if you have to resort to apagogical arguments, laced in "horse's laugh" jargon that doesn't offer alot to your issue with the Super Smash Bros. series.
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There's nothing commendable or admirable about being able to play a video game better than anyone else. It just means you've wasted a life. Congrats on all the money, though. You guys really deserve it all. You need something to fill the void.
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But at the end of the day, reasonable people will actually give Halo Wars a chance and very likely end up loving a great new game. And you'll still be just trolling for 360 threads to hate on. And all the while, nobody cares what you think. Ever.
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Anyways, I'm quite tempted to hop on over to the site to try to pick up an invite, but I'm still on the fence about the whole "rts on a console" idea. Universe at War has probably the best console-RTS control scheme I've used, but that still left much to be desired.
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(I'm just jealous)
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I hope your looking forward to the next century then...
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I joke, I joke, or do I?
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Ouch. That's pretty mean. At least they're putting out a demo, right? That way you can try it and make sure. They could be assholes and expect you to just buy the game on blind faith.
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Finally, someone I can relate to.
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MINE.
And I will pointlessly nay-say everyone who says otherwise!
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HINT: DEATH TO HOKEY "McDONALDS KARATE"!!!
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... So the people who sit and play games for a living have more of life than I do? I feel dead inside when I play any game for longer than a couple hours. I go outside for few minutes and realize that there is so much more to life than screaming at teammates and being a complete asshole to random people over XBLon a regular basis. I come to hate the amount of stress that comes with feeling an obligation to win a match for a rank, a petty NUMBER. Because that's what it is at the end of the day, a number.
Sorry, I'll take real life relationships, college, and family over games any day.
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If a group of players play often along with each other, chances are that there will be a coordinated style of gameplay. Maybe that is why I find more skill apt within singular play?
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This argument will likely never die considering Smash fans are some of the most delusional fanboys there are.
Its a godamn joke. Especially when the economy is this bad.
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Usually when I enter the foray, I end up making long thesis' on the subject at hand. Instead, I'll be blunt and say it this way:
That's your opinion. Just like I can argue that ANY fighting game is too simple. However, that statement would make me appear delusional.
Just as your statements appears to be. You're using logical fallacies to support your arguement, and frankly, they don't hold up in any debate. At least have the decency to figure out what your talking points are before the "peanut gallery" finds you to be flamebaiting.
Just saying... You're not making much sense if you have to resort to apagogical arguments, laced in "horse's laugh" jargon that doesn't offer alot to your issue with the Super Smash Bros. series.
Think about it.
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No? Ok...Go be ignorant elsewhere.
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Here, I'll help you out...
[kotaku.com]
Read what's in that link. Ban Monday is coming...